In-Package Images of Generations Thunderwing, Cliffjumper and Skullgrin

wohoa what wave is this?
were only just getting darkmount over here in sunny old england.

Thunderwing is a absolute want for me.

Will probably skip Skullgrin, looks good and all, but I've got Darkmount and one of the mold is enough for me.

On the fence for Cliffjumper though, got Bee, like him and all, but unless I start seeing more of the WFC cast, I'll probably keep it to only those that appear in the game.

LEVEL 2!!?? Thunderwing is a level 2!!?? Thunderwing is "EASY"!!?? I think there are more than a few Autobots who would disagree with Hasbro on that one.

Initially I only wanted Cliffjumper, and that was only for his head. But I might get all three now. I know this Thunderwing is meant to represent his Pretender shell form, but it's just not doing it for me. I hope a 3rd party might release a larger figure for this deluxe to occupy that's even half as awesome as dak's IDW custom. I'll get Skullgrin just to make up the Decepticon numbers.

Skullgrin has everything I like about Straxus (cool alt mode, imposing bot mode), and none of the things I don't like (cartoonish color scheme, headsculpt that's not quite my cup of tea). Definitely buying it.

Still wondering if I should get Cliffjumper. I'm not crazy about repaints (even if they're technically different characters), although as it is, he's the only WFC fig that's in-scale with Bee. His red color scheme doesn't quite appeal to me, for some reason.

An idiot once screamed(well not literally) in another site when I raised the issue of re-paints with just that, repaints , no molded new heads for the character per se. As a result we get quite expensive and at certain times high quality add-ons( ehem Fans Projects)

Now Hasbro/Takara has learned the lesson at least that when releasing the same mold, it no longer is enough to just change the name. Kudos for the Don Fig inspired Skullgrin head and the tiny overcompensating hero Cliffjumper.

Keep it coming guys!

Skullgrin looks way better than Darkmount with better colors. Ill buy the plane because I like seekers, but he is nothing special.

I will not touch Cliffjumper because him and Bumblebee look like those talking M&M's from the TV commercial. Just stamp a big M on their chest...

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Rated X wrote:I will not touch Cliffjumper because him and Bumblebee look like those talking M&M's from the TV commercial. Just stamp a big M on their chest...

Lmao! That's some funny feaces.

Rated X wrote:Skullgrin looks way better than Darkmount with better colors. Ill buy the plane because I like seekers, but he is nothing special.

Thunderwing is not a Seeker. A plane mode does not a Seeker make.

I'd only get Thunderwing out of the bunch, but for me the wave can be skipped.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Skullgrin looks way better than Darkmount with better colors. Ill buy the plane because I like seekers, but he is nothing special.

Thunderwing is not a Seeker. A plane mode does not a Seeker make.

But, if one wanted to use Thunderwing as a Seeker, that would be accceptable. If Starscream leads the Seekers, and Starscreams' 'title' is Aerospace commander, then his Seekers would need flight capable alt modes, and so then, yes, a plane alt mode for a Decepticon could a Seeker make. Also, if Thunderwing were my toy, I could do with him as I pleased. For instance, for me, he never was leader of the Decepticons nor did he steal the Matrix.

Hasbro hasn't repented from doing repaints.I wonder why

Powermaster Prime wrote:Hasbro hasn't repented from doing repaints.I wonder why

Why should they? Its cheaper for them to release a mold twice in different colors than it is to create two brand new molds.

I have Darkmount but I may be tempted to buy Skullgrin as well.

Powermaster Prime wrote:Hasbro hasn't repented from doing repaints.I wonder why

Cliffjumper and Skullgrin have new heads.

Powermaster Prime wrote:Hasbro hasn't repented from doing repaints.I wonder why

And to add insult to injury: repaints have been part of Transformers even before Day 1. Diaclone, Microman and Transformers are all connected when it comes to sharing molds.

Seeing these pictures makes me really sad that I couldn't get a preorder at BBTS for Thunderwing. Simplicity of the transformation aside, he does look pretty sweet. I just hope they get more at BBTS soon. My area doesn't even have wave 2 for generations yet.

so i haven't seen dark mount in any store and already they are showing repaints
just like with rotf blugeon i saw banzitron first in stores, they sure have the distribution
all messes up

I don't know which I should get Straxxus or Skullgrin

I have Thunderwing pre ordered at BBTS. Love the cj and skull grin too but I think I will be able to find them at TRU or Wally world. TW is a must have for me.

Well this makes me want them even more now! Good thing I have them pre-ordered

Is it wrong that the M&Ms comment made me want WFC BB & CJ more than I ever did before

Just got Straxus, love him to bits already and Skullgrin's Japanese counterpart Dauros/Dowlos/Whatever was my favourite Masterforce character, I only wish the retooled head captured even a little of his expressiveness...
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/2/26/Dauro ... rshell.jpg

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Skullgrin looks way better than Darkmount with better colors. Ill buy the plane because I like seekers, but he is nothing special.

Thunderwing is not a Seeker. A plane mode does not a Seeker make.

You needn't nitpick every comment anyone makes that might be construed as incorrect, JelZe (especially when the term 'seeker' is so open to personal [and canonical] interpretation!), it'll only discourage people from expressing their personal opinions...

PS Downshift's new avatar is god

Ohshitohshitohshitohshit! Thunderwing looks awesome! And hes a delux! Thats less money that I have to spend!!!

But why'd they give him an easy transformation?! I havent seen an easy transformation level since Real Gear robots!

SlyTF1 wrote:I havent seen an easy transformation level since Real Gear robots!

Some of those Real Gears were quite fiendishly clever, Spy Shot 6 - the little camera fella, has one of my top ten favourite transformations.

Plus, in my experience, the ladies love him...

I thought Cliffjumper was supposed to have a new head sculpt and a new weapon. Whatever, if I get the money, I'll get all 3! lol

OK i guess I'll be the one to say this...Thunderwing looks like shit. Really he does. I'll get the other two even though they are repaints, but its going to take something really spcial to make me want to pick up a busted wana-be seeker looking mold. And dont get me wrong I like the character. I had the original toy, this new just looks like crap.

ShardFenix wrote:OK i guess I'll be the one to say this...Thunderwing looks like shit. Really he does. I'll get the other two even though they are repaints, but its going to take something really special to make me want to pick up a busted wanna-be seeker looking mold. And dont get me wrong I like the character. I had the original toy, this new just looks like crap.

My thoughts pretty much, with the exception of getting Skullgrin and having the original Thunderwing. Maybe the release of this will drive the original's prices down a bit on eBay and I can afford one. Or, if Ryan does a gallery on him and he looks somewhat impressive in real robot mode, I might reconsider.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ShardFenix wrote:OK i guess I'll be the one to say this...Thunderwing looks like shit. Really he does. I'll get the other two even though they are repaints, but its going to take something really special to make me want to pick up a busted wanna-be seeker looking mold. And dont get me wrong I like the character. I had the original toy, this new just looks like crap.

If we get a gallery and the robot looks good I might think about it...but the jet mode looks terrible, also he should have been a Voyager size at least. But i guess it all depends on the robot mode, I just wasnt too impressed with the first robot mode shot we saw...


My thoughts pretty much, with the exception of getting Skullgrin and having the original Thunderwing. Maybe the release of this will drive the original's prices down a bit on eBay and I can afford one. Or, if Ryan does a gallery on him and he looks somewhat impressive in real robot mode, I might reconsider.

Ok i wish it would stop editing my posts for me. I agree if the robot mode is nice i Might get him and just never transform him back into a plane. But thats a big if...

Honestly Thunderwing is the only one out of these three figures I want. I mean I actually hated the character, I always thought he was another MATRIX obsessed decepticons that looked decent. But the more I learn about him, the more I've come to love him. I will definently be getting him even though he is only deluxe class.

Dai_Ceefax wrote:Is it wrong that the M&Ms comment made me want WFC BB & CJ more than I ever did before

Just got Straxus, love him to bits already and Skullgrin's Japanese counterpart Dauros/Dowlos/Whatever was my favourite Masterforce character, I only wish the retooled head captured even a little of his expressiveness...
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/2/26/Dauro ... rshell.jpg

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rated X wrote:Skullgrin looks way better than Darkmount with better colors. Ill buy the plane because I like seekers, but he is nothing special.

Thunderwing is not a Seeker. A plane mode does not a Seeker make.

You needn't nitpick every comment anyone makes that might be construed as incorrect, JelZe (especially when the term 'seeker' is so open to personal [and canonical] interpretation!), it'll only discourage people from expressing their personal opinions...

PS Downshift's new avatar is god

I get that a lot

I'm not really one to be known as the ball busting, nit picker on this site but a "seeker" is a unit that falls under Starscreams command and has a airborne alt mode. Thunderwing was never under Starscream, rather in an entirely different part of the Decepticon hierarchy. Phase sixers like Thunderwing, Sixshot, Blue Baccus (which will be an obvious Botcon repaint), and Overlord are well and above Starscreams fleet of soldiers.

But hey, if you want him as a seeker then by crumb you make him be a seeker!

i agree with my WFC Bumblebee in the mail to me, cliffjumper has become much more desirable after that M&M comment

Man, that m&m comment really spoiled Cliffjum&mper for me. I'll never look at that figure or BB the same again.

Thunderwing's nose looks really goofy. Is that suppose to be an air intake, is that why it's shaped like that? Maybe it it is, but it winds up making him look super deformed or a victim of child safety proofing. It's nice to do something different, but it should have been shaped another way, maybe blunted instead of rounded, for example.

Umm, why are we all talking like this is the first time we've seen these figures again?? Hehe.

Ooh, Thunderwing... an Easy Level conversion? Ouch.

I love the fact that the conversion levels are more accurate now than just being based on price point, but still... ouch.

After seeing Skullgrin, rather have him than dark mount.

Thunderwing is a must, but should have been a Voyager class at least.

Cliffjumper.....Really not feeling the WFC Figures at all!!!!

Down_Shift wrote:But hey, if you want him as a seeker then by crumb you make him be a seeker!

Lol, I agree, if Rated X wants to call him a seeker then that should be his choice. I'm personally a huge stickler for Transformers-related minutia, but I like the fact that most users are here because they like transforming robot toys and aren't sad enough to have read most of TFWIKI like me

PS I think Gen. Thunderwing looks ace, they really captured the G1 shell's look in a way that Skullgrin's new head doesn't IMO.
I'm just wondering, given that level of specific moulded detail, what he'll be repainted/retooled into. Any ideas other than Black Shadow, who likely isn't well-known enough in the west to justify doing (although if Takara make him I'll be over th'moon)?

I'm a seeker.

Seeker of 'dat ass.

Counterpunch wrote:I'm a seeker.

Seeker of 'dat ass.

There's a meme there somewhere...

EDIT: Done. Well, it made me laugh.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2559/lolwutqd.jpg