New Images of BotCon 2008 and Classics 2.0 Figures

hm im not so sure on that Sunstreaker I think it looked better as a prototype

Why do the Classic 2.0 figures look of inferior quality than the Animated figures? Prowl & Sunstreaker almost look like WSTs.
And Octane/Tankor looks worse now, his wings are shrinking!
I hope Prowl at least gets his missiles painted... didn't previous pictures show him with a gun? I don't know, but that Crosswise disguised as Jazz is the best looking figures in that bunch, evenrthough i dislike that mold.

The classics are all mistransformed. That's probably why they looked better before, when they were transformed correctly that is.

heltskelt wrote:Why do the Classic 2.0 figures look of inferior quality than the Animated figures? Prowl & Sunstreaker almost look like WSTs.
And Octane/Tankor looks worse now, his wings are shrinking!
I hope Prowl at least gets his missiles painted... didn't previous pictures show him with a gun?

These are not only horrendously mistransformed, but they are obviously painted prototypes, the final product will probably look much, much better.

Need more proof these figures are in mangled forms? Compare the photo of Botcon Blur to any Armada Blur repaint from the galleries and its easy to tell that this guy cant transform his toys at all.

While promising these pictures aren’t good for anything.

Prowl and Octane (no Tankor here...that's just stupid.) look fantastic. Sunstreaker still sucks, but what can you do?

Yeah, for some reason they don't look right. hmmm....

Im more wanting prowl than the others.

These are poor pictures and I'm hoping everyones right and the Classics are mistransformed.

I don't know about these... maybe they ARE WST? I mean, compare this picture of Prowl here: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wizardun ... tftf13.jpg

and this picture of Sunstreaker here:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wizardun ... tftf15.jpg

to the one in this picture.

Either that, or Hasbro has really screwed the pooch on paint applications...

My thinking? The "good" pictures are photoshoped colors. The "bad" ones in this thread are the Hasbro colors.

Eww..
Oh well, I will buy them anyway.

The old images look like nicely painted models, the new ones look like bare plastic.

I like the old ones better

Maybe those are knock offs? Anyways I'm sure Hasbro's actual release will see some much better looking TFs than what those were in the pics. I doubt they'd expect something of such crappy quality to sale, either to kids or to collectors. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Sunstreaker looks a little plain.
I find Tankor's HEMTT tuck mode a little disappointing. I have to see him in person before any conclusions can be made. But Prowl is the best of the bunch.

they are all mis-transformed..the images from the toy fair are most likely the real ones.

So Jazz is going to be in Universe Classics... right?
What was that black car with the blue flames, a Stunticon?

What is known about the Universe Legends class? Maybe that's what these are.

PhantomPrime wrote:So Jazz is going to be in Universe Classics... right?
What was that black car with the blue flames, a Stunticon?

You mean this guy?


He is Botcon exclusive Blurr. Won't be released in Universe

And yes Jazz is supposed to be in Universe in later waves.

That Jazz figure is one of the BotCon figures if that is where the confusion lies.

The Nightbeat homage on page 3 is very nice. Anyone know if that's botcon exclusive or mainline?

Bumblethumper wrote:The Nightbeat homage on page 3 is very nice. Anyone know if that's botcon exclusive or mainline?

It's a club exclusive like Airrazor and Astrotrain.

Bumblethumper wrote:The Nightbeat homage on page 3 is very nice. Anyone know if that's botcon exclusive or mainline?

Club Exclusive. No Headmaster Gimmick though. However since he is based on Energon Hot Shot's Mold. He has the ability to combine with any of the Deluxe and Voyager Autobots form that line.

Those Classics look really bad there, the car modes of Sunstreaker & Prowl look like WST's.

I really dislike Sunstreaker's legs, I just think they look bad and Octane looks to have dodgey leg design(his feet) too.

I'm sure the finished products will look alot better and I'm still looking forward to getting all the new Classics molds but maybe not as much as I once was.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I don't know about these... maybe they ARE WST? I mean, compare this picture of Prowl here: http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wizardun ... tftf13.jpg

and this picture of Sunstreaker here:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/wizardun ... tftf15.jpg

to the one in this picture.

Either that, or Hasbro has really screwed the pooch on paint applications...

My thinking? The "good" pictures are photoshoped colors. The "bad" ones in this thread are the Hasbro colors.

The "good" pictures you referenced look either photoshopped as you mentioned or painted plastic. The "bad" ones look like the typicl Hasbro colored plastic. Sunstreaker's yellow plastic looks almost identical to Bumblebee's yellow plastic. I wouldn't be surprised if these are close to the real thing. It's too bad the engine exhaust from the grey prototype has been removed.




I am disappointed with Octane. The bottom of the plane looks horrible. It looks like the plane is on a sled. The back of the plane doesn't look too much better. It's too bad the windows are now painted in truck mode. They looked a lot better in the clear prototypes.

How were the good ones Photoshopped? Weren't they colored and at toy fair 08? Or am I missing something?


Anyways those new pics look like someone had plastic diarrhea and that was the aftereffect. I'm sure the Hasbro releases will look a millions times better. I doubt even Hasbro would release products that look that bad.

I think the cool news is that Octane has two arms! That's something I wasn't sure of, and to me, this is a first pic to show that the claw arm is detachable!

IMO, Sunstreaker looks bad, really bad. Not really feeling any of these for that fact.

Hope they're mistransformed.

It's a shame that those are just early test shot figures. Whats worse is that the person who took the pics can't transform them to save their life.

You can tell just by the texture of the yellow plastic used for Sunstreaker. Very brittle and thin looking. Known to be used for early mock figures and test shots. I'm also wondering if that Blurr is suppose to have that wonky eye. Wait, can't remember if he has a creepy eye or not.

Satan's Camaro wrote:Eww..
Oh well, I will buy them anyway.

HMM, I have a week old ham in my fridge, it has transformed into something, however as it it MSIB in it's origional tupperware, I can't tell you what the alt is.

I'm betting it's a Maximal since it's furry though.

Since you seem to crave anything with TRANSFORMERS slapped on it, what would you give me for this one of a kind exclusive!?!

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Well, based on the designs, I was already sold on these.

It remains to be seen whether production quality of such a low caliber will change my mind. If worst comes to the worst, I guess we can just cross our fingers and wait to see how the Takara releases turn out.

Yeah, I'm less and less excited about those new Classics.
Even with bad photos, mis-transformations, etc.,
they just seem a little meh.
Of those 3, I think Prowl looks the best.
And I still think Tankor will be pretty sweet.
Sunstreaker's chest/body just look too flat and simple to me.

Overcracker wrote:

PhantomPrime wrote:So Jazz is going to be in Universe Classics... right?

Yes Jazz is supposed to be in Universe in later waves.

Oh man I'm sorry to see Harbro yet again reusing that pitiful Crosswise mold.

And on a main character like Jazz.

Words cannot express my disappointment. Universe Classics is starting to look like it's gonna suck.

Bumblethumper wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

PhantomPrime wrote:So Jazz is going to be in Universe Classics... right?

Yes Jazz is supposed to be in Universe in later waves.

Oh man I'm sorry to see Harbro yet again reusing that pitiful Crosswise mold.

And on a main character like Jazz.

Words cannot express my disappointment. Universe Classics is starting to look like it's gonna suck.

His Classics release won't be using that mold I'm sure. That's a botcon exclusive mold right there, his Classics 2.0 mold should be an original.

Sylus wrote:Maybe those are knock offs? Anyways I'm sure Hasbro's actual release will see some much better looking TFs than what those were in the pics. I doubt they'd expect something of such crappy quality to sale, either to kids or to collectors. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

i agree with you there mate, they definately look like KO's.

i'm not worried.

.......

i think.

All this worry over early prototypes.

Don't fret your final product will not look like that. It will be much closer to the promo pictures you saw for Toy fair, and the REAL pictures that Ryan took there.

Do we overreact much?

Liege Evilmus wrote:

Satan's Camaro wrote:Eww..
Oh well, I will buy them anyway.

HMM, I have a week old ham in my fridge, it has transformed into something, however as it it MSIB in it's origional tupperware, I can't tell you what the alt is.

I'm betting it's a Maximal since it's furry though.

Since you seem to crave anything with TRANSFORMERS slapped on it, what would you give me for this one of a kind exclusive!?!

MISB you say? Well, I'll offer you $250 for such a collector piece. That would include the cost of shipping, by the way. Consider my offer well, Liege....

First of all, those pics are just what they are pics. knucleheaded poster should beware of bad pics. A million to one that if the pics had decent lighting, you would be singing praises.

And the Hasbro pics are always touched up a bit on their website. Been that way since the release of Armada. They're accented to show detail. take a look back though the years and you'll see what I mean.

Sheesh!!

bvzxa wrote:First of all, those pics are just what they are pics. knucleheaded poster should beware of bad pics. A million to one that if the pics had decent lighting, you would be singing praises.

And the Hasbro pics are always touched up a bit on their website. Been that way since the release of Armada. They're accented to show detail. take a look back though the years and you'll see what I mean.

Sheesh!!

You know Hasbro out sources their photography? As in they don't take their own pics, which is why we usually see mis-transformed figures showing up on Hasbros product pages. As for the detail being higher in those pics, again yes, they are promotional pieces used for well, promotion of a new product. Ever wonder why the figure on the back of the box looks so different from what comes out of the box?

Sunstreaker looks okay. Shabby picture, but I have faith. Prowl is pure love, even if he is mistransformed. Geez, just look at his arms and you can tell they're mistransformed. I coulda done better when I was five. Seriously though, I'm psyched for Classics 2.0, and looking forward to BotCon. I am so going broke this year.

Down_Shift wrote:

bvzxa wrote:First of all, those pics are just what they are pics. knucleheaded poster should beware of bad pics. A million to one that if the pics had decent lighting, you would be singing praises.

And the Hasbro pics are always touched up a bit on their website. Been that way since the release of Armada. They're accented to show detail. take a look back though the years and you'll see what I mean.

Sheesh!!

You know Hasbro out sources their photography? As in they don't take their own pics, which is why we usually see mis-transformed figures showing up on Hasbros product pages. As for the detail being higher in those pics, again yes, they are promotional pieces used for well, promotion of a new product. Ever wonder why the figure on the back of the box looks so different from what comes out of the box?

Exactly.

I know that, but it seems everyone else is taken back by the pics on ACtoys.

bvzxa wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

bvzxa wrote:First of all, those pics are just what they are pics. knucleheaded poster should beware of bad pics. A million to one that if the pics had decent lighting, you would be singing praises.

And the Hasbro pics are always touched up a bit on their website. Been that way since the release of Armada. They're accented to show detail. take a look back though the years and you'll see what I mean.

Sheesh!!

You know Hasbro out sources their photography? As in they don't take their own pics, which is why we usually see mis-transformed figures showing up on Hasbros product pages. As for the detail being higher in those pics, again yes, they are promotional pieces used for well, promotion of a new product. Ever wonder why the figure on the back of the box looks so different from what comes out of the box?

Exactly.

I know that, but it seems everyone else is taken back by the pics on ACtoys.

Weird isn't it? I'll just take them at face when I see them on a shelf at Wal-mart. Takes the "worry" out of it.

SoooTrypticon wrote:I think the cool news is that Octane has two arms! That's something I wasn't sure of, and to me, this is a first pic to show that the claw arm is detachable!

He better have two arms or so help me....

Fatconvoy wrote:

Sylus wrote:Maybe those are knock offs? Anyways I'm sure Hasbro's actual release will see some much better looking TFs than what those were in the pics. I doubt they'd expect something of such crappy quality to sale, either to kids or to collectors. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

i agree with you there mate, they definately look like KO's.

i'm not worried.

.......

i think.

KO before the items have even been released? Sounds like Hasbro has worse security issues than I tought.

Sylus wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:I'm sorry to see Harbro yet again reusing that pitiful Crosswise mold.

And on a main character like Jazz.

His Classics release won't be using that mold I'm sure. That's a botcon exclusive mold right there, his Classics 2.0 mold should be an original.

Do we know that? There's 2 examples of the Crosswise mold with Jazz headsculpt on that thread. Are they both botcon exclusives?

Yes, one is Jazz and the other is Ricochet, another botcon exclusive.

WOW! If the Classics 2.0 figures are that bad then, no thanks. I'm glad i collected the first Classics line. Those look terrible. I guess we'll see when i see them on the shelves but those pics look horrendous.

Is Sunstreaker wearing bell bottoms?

Bumblethumper wrote:

Sylus wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:I'm sorry to see Harbro yet again reusing that pitiful Crosswise mold.

And on a main character like Jazz.

His Classics release won't be using that mold I'm sure. That's a botcon exclusive mold right there, his Classics 2.0 mold should be an original.

Do we know that? There's 2 examples of the Crosswise mold with Jazz headsculpt on that thread. Are they both botcon exclusives?

Yes, its confirmed Jazz's Universe Release will be an all new mold. those two Crosswise repaints are both Botcon Exclusives.

This looks ridiculous. If I recall correctly this is the same crap Hasbro pulled with the Classics 1.0. I looked at Starscream online and he looked more detailed. Then when he was released and I bought him at TRU the detail was non-existent. And what happened to Prowls police lights? Where is the red and Blue from the Mold? Whats with the Boomerang look for the lights?

Hopefully these are the legends otherwise I will be very stingy with my money. But I doubt Hasbro will care less as long as they are making money they will continue to jerk us around.

BLIX007 wrote::sad: This looks ridiculous. If I recall correctly this is the same crap Hasbro pulled with the Classics 1.0. I looked at Starscream online and he looked more detailed. Then when he was released and I bought him at TRU the detail was non-existent. And what happened to Prowls police lights? Where is the red and Blue from the Mold? Whats with the Boomerang look for the lights?

Hopefully these are the legends otherwise I will be very stingy with my money. But I doubt Hasbro will care less as long as they are making money they will continue to jerk us around.

The legends are all Cybertron repaints, these are the unfinished toys and they are horrendously mistransformed (does anyone remember those first pics we saw of TFA Grimlock with his arms flailed out everywhere?).

Come on people, we've already seen what they will look like. This is Hasbro's photo team fucking up again.