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Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Thursday, October 5th, 2023 12:40PM CDT

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Takara has its big reveal day today, and that includes their next Beast Wars Masterpiece figure, Rhinox. The reveal was done through Dengeki Hobby. You can see the images below which look like pure magic once again (with lots of paneling as well). The 35,200 yen price puts him around the $230 mark, including taxes. We'll see what Hasbro sells it for domestically on Pulse. The toy is set for an end of June 2024 release.

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

Transformers News: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed

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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171102)
Posted by ScottyP on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:58pm CDT
That looks so good. Really looking forward to this one!
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171103)
Posted by Overcracker on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:03pm CDT
Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.

Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk. :-D :-D :-D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171105)
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:04pm CDT
Really happy with this release. What I am most curious is the rhino limbs since those parts seem completely different in robot mode. And I like the price. We get a bot as big as Dinobot, just about, but much cheaper thanks to less accessories, something I never really need.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171109)
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:56pm CDT
Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171110)
Posted by angtre on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:58pm CDT
Beautiful. Rooting for this since longtime, next in my own personal wishlist of BW MPs is Waspinator.
Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".

It'd need an almost complete repaint to be spot on. I don't know whether the episode is so popular to justify it, even if that would allow to reuse the mold.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171112)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 5th, 2023 @ 2:43pm CDT
Looks great but not £150 more than Primal great.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171113)
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 2:48pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".


Sounds like a great redeco option
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171124)
Posted by DeathReviews on October 5th, 2023 @ 3:56pm CDT
Eh. I know Rhinox has some really loyal, energetic fans. But somehow, the character and its figures never 'landed' for me. This one will be an easy pass, but me not buying just leaves more for the other collectors who will give him a good home!
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171148)
Posted by First-Aid on October 5th, 2023 @ 6:57pm CDT
....waiting for third party bean vines, lift up tail with blue energon fart cloud, and sippy straw hat....
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171156)
Posted by Seibertron on October 5th, 2023 @ 8:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".


Sounds like a great redeco option


I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!

Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!

Hm, thinking about a Predacon Rhinox redeco, you know what would be fun is to see an Insecticon color scheme on Waspinator inspired by him talking about Shrapnel in Dark Designs. Maybe on a Transmetal Waspinator if they ever tackle those (just as a fun non-canon one-off), though canonically his original body would make sense from Dark Designs, but for legacy purposes Transmetal Waspinator would fit in better with G1 Insecticons.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171157)
Posted by BluePhirePB on October 5th, 2023 @ 8:21pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.

Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk. :-D :-D :-D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Well crap, now I can't unsee it!
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171164)
Posted by TK415 on October 5th, 2023 @ 10:14pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!


That is funny. I feel the same way. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. Beast Wars being cg was much closer to being photo-realistic. So show to toy works. The 84 cartoon was a drawing of what we imagined to be photo realistic. So show accuracy may be cool and fun for some people looking for cartoon looking models, but for others it seems off.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171165)
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 10:36pm CDT
TK415 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!


That is funny. I feel the same way. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. Beast Wars being cg was much closer to being photo-realistic. So show to toy works. The 84 cartoon was a drawing of what we imagined to be photo realistic. So show accuracy may be cool and fun for some people looking for cartoon looking models, but for others it seems off.


There's that. Plus there's the idea that the CG transformations and differences between modes are literally impossible (they replace one 3d model with another), while the G1 show transformations were all based on the toy transformations. So While giving Optimus a fake cab feels off, since the part is right there, giving Rhinox a totally different "fake" rhino mouth is fine since that cartoon look simply can't be replicated. Plus, I love how they still find ways to incporporate these fake parts in the alt modes, like having the fake raptor head on Dinobot's chest become the belly for the raptor mode.

I stopped collecting G1 MPs because I found it cheating that they would just use fake parts for everything, for slight aesthetic reasons. I get something more satisfying with the CGUG lines. But with Beasts Wars, nothing comes close and the MPs feel like miracles. Still waiting on that Terrorsaur.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171241)
Posted by Overcracker on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:08pm CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.

Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk. :-D :-D :-D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Well crap, now I can't unsee it!


You're welcome. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171250)
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:27pm CDT
At first, all Masterpiece Transformers figures look like magic. But then you see different angles and slowly you can see the compromises done to turn this into an actual physical figure. Well Rhinox looked like pure magic once again, so the big question was: how does the back look like? Well, not bad as it turns out. There is a backpack, which he should have, but it looks clean for what it is rather than a mess of parts. You can see for yourself with these images from Takara. The side view of the rhino mode does look more messy with some robot bits peering from the bottom.

Listings from Japanese retailers at their discounted retail price, like $165 USD at Ami Ami are now up. We'll update when Amazon Japan has a similar price.

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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171253)
Posted by Overcracker on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:At first, all Masterpiece Transformers figures look like magic. But then you see different angles and slowly you can see the compromises done to turn this into an actual physical figure. Well Rhinox looked like pure magic once again, so the big question was: how does the back look like? Well, not bad as it turns out. There is a backpack, which he should have, but it looks clean for what it is rather than a mess of parts. You can see for yourself with these images from Takara. The side view of the rhino mode does look more messy with some robot bits peering from the bottom.

Listings from Japanese retailers at their discounted retail price, like $165 USD at Ami Ami. We'll update when Amazon Japan has a similar price.


Thanks. Pre-Ordered. Release date set for June. Will save up some money starting on January.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171280)
Posted by Emerje on October 6th, 2023 @ 8:15pm CDT
I don't think the side view is that bad. Since everything is the same color it sort of blends together, it would be different if the bot parts were green or black.

Are the rhino eyes articulated? In the top image they're looking forward, but on the bottom they're looking to the side. Is it just a trick of the camera?

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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171285)
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:13pm CDT
The eyes are articulated
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171341)
Posted by First-Aid on October 7th, 2023 @ 12:41pm CDT
TAIL LIFTS! Now just need bean vines, sippy hat, and giant lumenscent energon fart cloud
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171370)
Posted by TulioDude on October 7th, 2023 @ 6:43pm CDT
Rhinox looks great!
Feels nice to see his cartoon head again, after the previous toys seemed to ignore it.
The enginering looks very solid.

Day 1374 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171377)
Posted by Emerje on October 7th, 2023 @ 11:30pm CDT
Amazon Japan listing, currently at $265 USD after shipping, doesn't appear to have been reduced yet: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/produc?tag=seibertron00-22& ... RJN5&psc=1

Emerje
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171541)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 9th, 2023 @ 10:23am CDT
£209.99 - InDemand Toys

Transformers Takaratomy Masterpiece MP-59 Rhinox
Expected ship date Jul 1 – 7

NOTE: ID Toys now has free preorders.

So that's the RRP out of the way :roll:
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171941)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
Dang, he looks really good. They did a good job here.

That price though, ouch
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2171945)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:50pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".


Sounds like a great redeco option


I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!


Let's also be clear. Aside from the Dark Design redeco, Rhinox is a one and done mould. He had a Takara colour scheme variation*. But there were no other bots that came from him.

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Rattrap, Terrorsaur and Scorponok have the most redeco variants of those remaining. Airazor and Tarantulas have none. Waspinator technically has Buzzsaw and Inferno has Antagony. I'd like to see all of the variants in the MP line. But it's hard to tell if Takara will extend the BW MP line that far.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172063)
Posted by Emerje on October 13th, 2023 @ 11:09pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".


Sounds like a great redeco option


I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!


Let's also be clear. Aside from the Dark Design redeco, Rhinox is a one and done mould. He had a Takara colour scheme variation*. But there were no other bots that came from him.

There's always the possibility of giving a new name to the Fox Kids repaint. It's not like the MP line doesn't already have a long history of taking obscure repaints and giving them new identities.

Emerje
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172101)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 14th, 2023 @ 12:41pm CDT
Emerje wrote:There's always the possibility of giving a new name to the Fox Kids repaint. It's not like the MP line doesn't already have a long history of taking obscure repaints and giving them new identities.

Emerje


I'd be fine with that. I suppose that depends on how well Rhinox sells? Remember both Grimlock and T-Wrecks have not made it into the Beast Wars MP line so far.

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I did forget this Rhinox had a Fox Kids redeco too. I guess that is three redeco possibilities for Rhinox.
One of them could be re-appropriated as this guy:

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Happy Meal "Rhino"
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172695)
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2023 @ 9:24pm CDT
While Masterpiece Rhinox is available for pre-order at plenty of online retailers, fans were waiting to see how low the price could get. Well Amazon Japan now has the figure at $160 USD, thanks to their customary discount on Transformers figures. That's the current conversion on the ¥24068 price you see when adding the figure to your cart. Of course, that price does not include shipping or any duty/custom fees.

For those unaware, orders from Japan for MP figures tend to ship sooner than their Hasbro counterparts. So that's another reason fans tend to choose Amazon Japan over western retailers. You'll let us know which option you go with.

Link: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/aw/d/B?tag=seibertron00-22& ... UTF8&psc=1

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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172701)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 23rd, 2023 @ 11:22pm CDT
They seem to be all gone now…
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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172705)
Posted by Dino-Snarl on October 24th, 2023 @ 1:52am CDT
Agreed with the pricing noted here on Amazon Japan. They will charge customs automatically. Even with shipping included too the price is the cheapest.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172713)
Posted by ScottyP on October 24th, 2023 @ 7:57am CDT
Keep in mind that's at today's exchange rate. You get charged when the figure comes out for whatever the rate is at that time. That's been advantageous as heck using USD for years, but never know when that luck will turn.

Anyway so I have like a dozen POs there at the moment, not intending to discourage :lol:
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172718)
Posted by william-james88 on October 24th, 2023 @ 10:45am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:They seem to be all gone now…
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That's bizarre because when I click the same link, it shows as available for pre-order.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172723)
Posted by figureguy on October 24th, 2023 @ 1:21pm CDT
If you have placed an order before today, don't worry as Amazon Japan's site says for those who don't know:

Amazon.co.jp's price for not-yet-released items changes occasionally from the time an item is listed for sale to the time it's released and shipped. When you pre-order an item, the price we charge is the lowest price (tax inclusive) displayed on Amazon.co.jp from the time you place your order until the shipping process begins (or release date of the item, whichever comes earlier).

A pre-order price guarantee message appears on your Order Summary during the checkout process. If you use 1-Click ordering, pre-order price protection is applied automatically. The order summary in Your Account reflects the lowest price within 24-48 hours of the price change. The actual price that you're charged is stated in the shipment confirmation email.


Big reason why I always throw a pre-order at something I want from them as soon as it goes live.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2172730)
Posted by Dino-Snarl on October 24th, 2023 @ 3:19pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Keep in mind that's at today's exchange rate. You get charged when the figure comes out for whatever the rate is at that time. That's been advantageous as heck using USD for years, but never know when that luck will turn.

Anyway so I have like a dozen POs there at the moment, not intending to discourage :lol:


:-D good point! Not deterred :D
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2173634)
Posted by william-james88 on November 21st, 2023 @ 9:41am CST
Can an american confirm if Rhinox seems available to be ordered by you now?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0CK9Z?tag=seibertron00-22& ... sform0c-22
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2173637)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 21st, 2023 @ 10:53am CST
Actually yes I was finally able to! For a total of ¥28,562 or roughly $193.20 USD. Not quite a $30 savings but I always like getting it under the nearest hundred so I’m cool with it.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2173697)
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2023 @ 11:39am CST
We posted an article back when Masterpiece Rhinox was up for preorder at Amazon Japan since it's become the preferred choice for fans across the world due to the best price, reliability and lighting fast vcr shipping. It seemed instantly sold out for Americans though and that was because Amazon Japan blocked orders from the US, which is something they used to do for toys years ago.

Well, we have good news, Japan has unblocked the US, so you too can partake in the best price in the world now. Below is a link to the item.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0CK9Z?tag=seibertron00-22& ... sform0c-22

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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2173706)
Posted by Overcracker on November 23rd, 2023 @ 4:00pm CST
Unfortunately can't cancel my AmiAmi pre-order now, so... I'll stick with the slightly more expensive option. #-o
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2173726)
Posted by Emerje on November 23rd, 2023 @ 7:28pm CST
This isn't entirely accurate. Americans could order when it initially became available (that's when I ordered mine), but when that batch sold out it was the second batch that we were locked out of.

Emerje
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181809)
Posted by Emerje on June 28th, 2024 @ 10:12pm CDT
Rhinox is shipping now from Amazon Japan. My notice says arriving Wednesday, but it's DHL so it may be as soon as Monday.

Emerje
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181818)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 29th, 2024 @ 4:03am CDT
Yeah I got my invoice from Kapow a couple days ago. I'd half forgotten he was even in the pipeline...
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181824)
Posted by william-james88 on June 29th, 2024 @ 3:22pm CDT
Takara’s Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Rhinox is coming out tomorrow. While we don’t have a review yet, here are sime In hand pics of Rhinox from Uranus along with a couple more. We also have a transformation video showing the magic the Takara wizards cooked up for this release.

Let us know what you think!

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Transformation video

https://youtu.be/iGscs06SvSo?si=iaAORjrcuJHMKLxr
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181825)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on June 29th, 2024 @ 3:38pm CDT
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Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181835)
Posted by Emerje on June 29th, 2024 @ 10:50pm CDT
Looks really good, but concerned about the pose-ability of the arms the way they've been split to get those poses.

Emerje
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181838)
Posted by Seibertron on June 29th, 2024 @ 11:18pm CDT
I just don't get the Masterpiece line at this point. They are beautiful figures, but the line moves at an extremely slow snail pace. I was 27 when the first Masterpiece figures came out. I'm 47 now and they still haven't finished the first year G1 figures. Twenty years is an incredibly long time to wait for a toy to be released. Where's Jazz? Where are the rumored Insecticons and Perceptor and Blaster and the Autobot Cassettes and Springer and Kup and Blurr and Cyclonus, Scourge, Galvatron, etc????

The Masterpiece Beast Wars figures started coming out in 2016 and I'm pretty sure Primal was announced around BotCon 2015, but maybe I'm off with that. Either way, his figure came out almost 8 years ago in 2016. And here we are in a very similar pattern with Beast Wars that we are with G1. How has this line not been finished yet? Where is Tarantulas and Scorponok and Airazor and Terrorsaur and Inferno at this point? These seem like easy products to make because no licensing is involved. I just don't get it. I love the Masterpiece figures but the line is so slow and has so much "filler" that I'm kind of getting over this line at this point. The main line is doing such an amazing job with incredible figures and deep pulls and similar deep cuts that I feel like the relevancy of Masterpiece just isn't there any more ... and is hurt by its own incredibly slow release cycle.

Takara Tomy ... I want to give you more money. Here it is. Please release products faster so that I can give you more of my money. Thanks. Signed, Ryan.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181845)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 30th, 2024 @ 6:00am CDT
Seibertron wrote:I just don't get the Masterpiece line at this point. They are beautiful figures, but the line moves at an extremely slow snail pace. I was 27 when the first Masterpiece figures came out. I'm 47 now and they still haven't finished the first year G1 figures. Twenty years is an incredibly long time to wait for a toy to be released. Where's Jazz? Where are the rumored Insecticons and Perceptor and Blaster and the Autobot Cassettes and Springer and Kup and Blurr and Cyclonus, Scourge, Galvatron, etc????

The Masterpiece Beast Wars figures started coming out in 2016 and I'm pretty sure Primal was announced around BotCon 2015, but maybe I'm off with that. Either way, his figure came out almost 8 years ago in 2016. And here we are in a very similar pattern with Beast Wars that we are with G1. How has this line not been finished yet? Where is Tarantulas and Scorponok and Airazor and Terrorsaur and Inferno at this point? These seem like easy products to make because no licensing is involved. I just don't get it. I love the Masterpiece figures but the line is so slow and has so much "filler" that I'm kind of getting over this line at this point. The main line is doing such an amazing job with incredible figures and deep pulls and similar deep cuts that I feel like the relevancy of Masterpiece just isn't there any more ... and is hurt by its own incredibly slow release cycle.

Takara Tomy ... I want to give you more money. Here it is. Please release products faster so that I can give you more of my money. Thanks. Signed, Ryan.



I'm empathise with you, I genuinely do. The frustration is real. I've discussed elsewhere that I really feel sorry for the collectors of G1 Masterpiece. I don't even think they will ever complete the Sunbow cast, let alone Takara and beyond.

Meanwhile, for Beast Wars it was always a little different. We were never promised everything. We were given the cast of Season One, which is 14 characters. There is an asinine bias within Takara, of course. Discounting the redeco variants, there are two of seven MP Predacons currently available: The largest and the smallest. On the flipside, only the two smallest MP Maximals remain unproduced.

The Masterpiece Beast Wars core cast stands at 9/14. Roughly 64%. Which in an eight year timeframe isn't too bad for Takara. Considering BW is never the main push of this line.


In contrast, one of our resident Super Brains could likely tell you the percentage of completion MP Sunbow has achieved since the MP line began?
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181857)
Posted by Emerje on June 30th, 2024 @ 6:33pm CDT
I have no interest in getting rid of my MPs, nor do I have any interest in not adding to them if they continue to make new ones so I continue to buy them.

Emerje
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181860)
Posted by Spider5800 on June 30th, 2024 @ 9:29pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I just don't get the Masterpiece line at this point. They are beautiful figures, but the line moves at an extremely slow snail pace. I was 27 when the first Masterpiece figures came out. I'm 47 now and they still haven't finished the first year G1 figures. Twenty years is an incredibly long time to wait for a toy to be released. Where's Jazz? Where are the rumored Insecticons and Perceptor and Blaster and the Autobot Cassettes and Springer and Kup and Blurr and Cyclonus, Scourge, Galvatron, etc????

The Masterpiece Beast Wars figures started coming out in 2016 and I'm pretty sure Primal was announced around BotCon 2015, but maybe I'm off with that. Either way, his figure came out almost 8 years ago in 2016. And here we are in a very similar pattern with Beast Wars that we are with G1. How has this line not been finished yet? Where is Tarantulas and Scorponok and Airazor and Terrorsaur and Inferno at this point? These seem like easy products to make because no licensing is involved. I just don't get it. I love the Masterpiece figures but the line is so slow and has so much "filler" that I'm kind of getting over this line at this point. The main line is doing such an amazing job with incredible figures and deep pulls and similar deep cuts that I feel like the relevancy of Masterpiece just isn't there any more ... and is hurt by its own incredibly slow release cycle.

Takara Tomy ... I want to give you more money. Here it is. Please release products faster so that I can give you more of my money. Thanks. Signed, Ryan.


All of this is why I mostly focused on CHUG and movie stuff. It's wild how poorly they've handled Masterpiece. The absurdly long waits between releases, the change to a more toon accurate style while people were still waiting on characters to be released, the questionable quality on newer releases (still bitter about how badly Hound ended up)...this line is a mess.

Kingdom and Legacy got me the entire Beast Wars S1 cast in like 2 years, most of which were VERY good, and is moving on to freaking Fuzors and Transmetals. All at a fraction of the cost. I don't get the reason why MP is just sooooooo slooooooow while still having major QC issues and no consistency.
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Posted by Emerje on July 1st, 2024 @ 3:36am CDT
One of the reasons it takes so long for them to get MPs out is because they can realistically only sell so many in a year. Their core fans are also buying from their other lines and most of them can't just buy everything, otherwise we'd be getting four new Commanders and Titans every year.

On the flip side there's still a number of adults in Japan (and elsewhere) that view mainline toys as being for kids and MPs as being for adults. But these same people are also buying multiple big expensive robots from other companies too and there's A LOT to choose. Making 15 or so new MPs every year in an already crowded market is just asking for trouble.

That said, we had more MPs at retail (non-exclusives) in 2024 than I believe any prior year with 13 between MP, MPM and MPG. So maybe they are ramping things up. We already knew two figures for February 2025 way more than half a year early and they're already available for order so just how much do they have planned for next year if they're trying to get out this far ahead?

Emerje
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 1st, 2024 @ 10:24am CDT
Then of course is the other side of the conversation: the counterproductive buyer.

"I don't care if they complete the cast. I want Optimus Prime with better knees/more faithful decals/shiny smoke stacks etc"

It's counterproductive because the MP line has literally reset itself (a couple of times) to accommodate this attitude at this point. Takara should have at least completed a single season's cast before going into 2.0 figures.

You almost get the feeling that some people would be happy if every Transformer was just a colour variant of Prime/BB/Starscream.
Re: Transformers MP-59 Masterpiece Rhinox Officially Revealed (2181877)
Posted by Spider5800 on July 1st, 2024 @ 1:17pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Then of course is the other side of the conversation: the counterproductive buyer.

"I don't care if they complete the cast. I want Optimus Prime with better knees/more faithful decals/shiny smoke stacks etc"

It's counterproductive because the MP line has literally reset itself (a couple of times) to accommodate this attitude at this point. Takara should have at least completed a single season's cast before going into 2.0 figures.

You almost get the feeling that some people would be happy if every Transformer was just a colour variant of Prime/BB/Starscream.


I'd also question if this group has even been satisfied, as I'd argue that stuff like MP-44 OP and MP-45 BB kind of suck, compared to earlier releases. More toon accurate looking, sure, but not very fun toys. And WAY more expensive.

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