Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
Who cares if the plot sucks? It's an action movie!
I care. As it turns out, I prefer it when my movies have good action scenes and a decent plot. I'm greedy that way.
Why are you bitching that the Transformers movie is stupid when the original cartoon is just as stupid?
Because the '80s Transformers cartoon didn't have a $300 million budget and wasn't supposed to appeal to millions of viewers of many ages in several countries. I think having slightly higher standards for the live-action movie is pretty reasonable.
Do you really expect a great story from a movie based on a toy cartoon?
No. But a decent story? A so-so story? A story that isn't relentlessly stupid? Yeah, I think I'd like that.
Who cares if it's dumb? This movie is for kids!
I think the lingering shots of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley's almost bare ass and the incredibly graphic violence indicate the movie is not solely for kids. And as it turns out, it is legal to have a non-ludicrously dumb plot, characterizations instead of accents, and even mediocre acting in kids movies sometimes. I looked it up.
Do you expect TF3 to be Citizen Kane? It's a turn-off-your-brain summer popcorn flick!
Of course not. But there's a pretty wide range between your standard summer fare and Citizen Kane, and just because I don't want my movie to be so stupid that I can't stop thinking about how dumb it is doesn't mean I need it to be some art house flick. Here's a summer popcorn flick for you: Thor. Was Thor dumb? No, but it wasn't smart. And it wasn't so dumb I was too distracted by horrible plot holes to enjoy the movie. I like not-smart movies. Love 'em, in fact. I don't need all movies to be as clever as Citizen Kane. I just need them to not be insanely stupid.
Why can't you just enjoy the spectacle, man?
Because spectacle is infinitely more spectacular if it's part of a story that makes a modicum of sense and characters that I give the tiniest **** about.
Blurrz wrote:Compared to the other summer movies, DOTM blew away Thor and Green Lantern. A bit better than Fast Five, and on par with X-Men First Class.
SlyTF1 wrote:Michael Bay > Shakespeare
Citizen Kane < All 3 TF movies.
Cthulhunicron wrote:Dark of the Moon on par with X-Men First Class? That's hilarious.
The Topless Robot quote pretty much summed up my initial argument.
I realize Transformers media has never been known for great writing and I do enjoy watching the Michael Bay movies on a superficial level, but I will never claim that they are good movies. They're incredibly stupid movies that have well done action scenes. the only way I can really watch them is by fast forwarding all the "comic relief" scenes.
Cthulhunicron wrote:Dark of the Moon on par with X-Men First Class? That's hilarious.
Cthulhunicron wrote:I find this to be a very weak argument in defense of the Transformers trilogy.
vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.
The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.
SlyTF1 wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.
The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.
...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.
No Death for Prowl wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.
The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.
...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.
There was a sense of dread and uncertainty during the city battle because it seemed like the Decepticons actually had a chance to win.
I never believed to be the case in ROTF nor DOTM.
Once Optimus showed up, you knew the battle was over.
SlyTF1 wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.
The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.
...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.
There was a sense of dread and uncertainty during the city battle because it seemed like the Decepticons actually had a chance to win.
I never believed to be the case in ROTF nor DOTM.
Once Optimus showed up, you knew the battle was over.
The only time I thought they where going to win was in ROTF. I thought they where going to bring back Optimus in the next movie.
No Death for Prowl wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
The introduction of Blackout should have left even the most stubborn Geewuner giddy as a gorilla in a banana factory.
The city battle at the end of the first movie was more suspenseful than the last 2 movies combined.
...no it wasn't. It was just Sam running from Megatron! At least in ROTF and DOTM they had some moments where they where actually fighting back.
There was a sense of dread and uncertainty during the city battle because it seemed like the Decepticons actually had a chance to win.
I never believed to be the case in ROTF nor DOTM.
Once Optimus showed up, you knew the battle was over.
The only time I thought they where going to win was in ROTF. I thought they where going to bring back Optimus in the next movie.
I agree that's what should have occurred to end the movie with a bad guys' momentary victory, a la The Empire Strikes Back.
But almost as soon as Prime died, they were looking (and found) a way to revive him.
His (short) death was never allowed to make much of an impact.
No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
Master Renegade wrote:No Death for Prowl wrote:Master Renegade wrote:vegetacron wrote:Yeah, i used to think that way, but its like...i dunno...perspective?
Yes, the movies, as a whole, we're terrible, but you kinda just gotta pick out what you liked about them and move on.
That's just it. I can't find a single redeeming feature in ANY of them. Not one. There was nothing I liked about them. At best, I may have been indifferent to a few elements.
Oh come on, that's not really fair.
It's perfectly fair. It's exactly how I feel. I cannot find a single good point about ANY of these movies.
Now, if you really want to insist that I'm being unfair, I could easily turn that around on you and your opinions.
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