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by **Prowl240z** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:57 am

I am not going to point anyone out, but today I've had it. A bot/con, had the most offensive one word Motto I've seen in a while, needless to day i hope they read the boards and change it befor the powers that be find them.

Wasn't it like 6-8 months ago Ryan posted that HMW needs to be rated PG with the Mottos/Team Name/Bot names....

never mind i change my mind.... I am pointing fingers

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/tea ... p?id=20813 (check the team name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/tea ... p?id=10113 (motto and I find the name "Jew bot" racist and Biggoted, but thats not aginst HMW rules yet...)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=39730 (name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... er_id=5132 (name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=58769 (name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=35405
(name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=52491 (name)

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
And this is with like 2 mins of searching HMW.... JESUS freaking christ people..... /rant

by **OTAGO** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:03 am

them is prolly young kids that still think naughty words are groovy....
Let the Mod deal with them.
Mkall!!! ...lord knows crying AS won't do =p

by **Prowl240z** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:09 am

OTAGO wrote:them is prolly young kids that still think naughty words are groovy....
Let the Mod deal with them.
Mkall!!! ...lord knows crying AS won't do =p

I am soooo suprized there isnt a filter on the botnames tho? I mean..... but then again i would take away form glyph and v2..... and i know words like twat, can be set off by a word like wristwatch, or saltwater.... or a filter for "****" gets screwed up by Shitake, or yoshitaka..... but still

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:10 am

The

button is your friend ... so's Mkall.

by **Prowl240z** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:13 am

Burn wrote:The button is your friend ... so's Mkall.

Meh I like calling the dirtbags out in public, especial when its been a topic on the main page more then once....

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:17 am

Just like it's been stated numerous times in the past that these things should be pm'ed to the Moderators so as to not create a witch hunt which is exactly what you're doing.

by **Tammuz** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:22 am

PG-13 is thus a sterner warning to parents, particularly when deciding which movies are not suitable for younger children. Parents, by the rating, are alerted to be very careful about the attendance of their under-teenage children. A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year-olds and younger to attend. If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.

prowl, ****(unless it's your thing) is not a sexual expletive, neither is bitch or **** so are OK by Pg-13 standards, and and what's wrong with being a jew, it's no more racist than calling one of my cons Britbot, get off your PC high horse.

by **OTAGO** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:24 am

filter problem easily solved....simple but needs a bit of work.
block individual terms, query for any matching terms found within words be made into a list and sent to mods every so often.

News Credits: 2 · by **Ninjaburn** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:43 am

Though I loathe to admit it when he is, Burn is right, when you see things like that, alert the mods like Mkall about things like that.

HOWEVER, this does bring up a point that the more 'mature' and prominent players should recongize, which is to stop turning a blind eye to many things like ppl using 'F**k' and racial or cultural slurs and alert the people in charge. Many forums and games have hot buttons to alert mods on inappropriate behavior, so maybe Glyph should strongly look into that (and Ryan for the boards as well).

As for the content directly, meh, most of these children do that just for the hell of it b/c they think its cool, normally b/c they have just added these vulgar words to their vocabulary. And besides, nearly off of them that you pointed out are inactive and should probably just be deleted.

by **Tammuz** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:57 am

Ninjaburn wrote:Though I loathe to admit it when he is, Burn is right, when you see things like that, alert the mods like Mkall about things like that.

HOWEVER, this does bring up a point that the more 'mature' and prominent players should recongize, which is to stop turning a blind eye to many things like ppl using 'F**k' and racial or cultural slurs and alert the people in charge. Many forums and games have hot buttons to alert mods on inappropriate behavior, so maybe Glyph should strongly look into that (and Ryan for the boards as well).

As for the content directly, meh, most of these children do that just for the hell of it b/c they think its cool, normally b/c they have just added these vulgar words to their vocabulary. And besides, nearly off of them that you pointed out are inactive and should probably just be deleted.

beleive it or not the board and the game actually already have filters! and have done for some time

EDIT: which really makes me wonder why prowl was searching for those terms, perhaps he's bored and what's to cuase a fuss or get some brownie points with the mods.

News Credits: 2 · by **Ninjaburn** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:59 am

Tammuz wrote:beleive it or not the board and the game actually already have filters!

Yeah, I definitely don't believe it!

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:00 am

On the one hand, some of those might be offensive.
On the other hand I am against censorship.
I have never seen any of those in missions
and you must just be looking for something to argue about.
All this is going to do by posting those links is give
faster access to the wittle kiddies who will really find that stuff funny and possibly urge more people to do it.
Thanks

by **Tammuz** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:00 am

try putting the F-word in your motto(it won't allow you), or a post(it'll get censored)

and i totally agree with discharge

by **y2si** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:18 am

i agree with tammuz and discharge. i'd also love to see Ninjaburns idea of a cultural or ethnic slur? HMW is one of the best modded boards around, most of the times overly so. where are the racial or religious slurs! this board is like a white picket fence for pete's sake. notice i used pete instead of god so as not to offend buddhists, confucians, muslims, jews, pagans etc...

by **Tammuz** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:23 am

y2si wrote:i agree with tammuz and discharge. i'd also love to see Ninjaburns idea of a cultural or ethnic slur? HMW is one of the best modded boards around, most of the times overly so. where are the racial or religious slurs! this board is like a white picket fence for pete's sake. notice i used pete instead of god so as not to offend buddhists, confucians, muslims, jews, pagans etc...

I demand this poster is banned for Pete supremacist attitude!

EDIT: and then you can ban me for Peteist attitude too!

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:48 am

I was wondering why I never see any of this crap in my mission logs, and then I realized that it probably has something to do with being a level 3-6 player.

How many of these guys actually stick around long enough to even make it to level 1?

by **Prowl240z** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:15 am

Tammuz wrote:try putting the F-word in your motto(it won't allow you), or a post(it'll get censored)

and i totally agree with discharge

I was working on my bots when the F--k motto popped up and well it got my ass worked up... i wasn't looking to start anything... :p

Caelus wrote:I was wondering why I never see any of this crap in my mission logs, and then I realized that it probably has something to do with being a level 3-6 player.

How many of these guys actually stick around long enough to even make it to level 1?

a few where level 1 or 2

And the "Jew bot" thing, I am sure that if it wasnt a 13 year old whos motto wasn't "f--k" i would say he has no malic twards using the name.... but beacuse Its a 12 year old with a motto like that I am sure he means something derogitory by it, and probily would be betters off writing a Nice bio for it that explains the use of the word!

News Credits: 3 · by **LuckytheWonderLlama** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:36 am

Hey, this reminds me... Has anyone seen Puck lately? :roll:

Anyway, before anyone starts coming after me for my team leader's name, I would just like to point out that there is precidence for using potential racial slurs as Transformer Names.

Defense Exibit 1: The G1 Cannon Character Greaser.

The Defense Rests.

Please, stop the Witch Hunt on all fronts.

News Credits: 1 · by **QuietStorm** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:51 am

Prowl240z wrote:I am not going to point anyone out, but today I've had it. A bot/con, had the most offensive one word Motto I've seen in a while, needless to day i hope they read the boards and change it befor the powers that be find them.

Wasn't it like 6-8 months ago Ryan posted that HMW needs to be rated PG with the Mottos/Team Name/Bot names....

never mind i change my mind.... I am pointing fingers

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/tea ... p?id=20813 (check the team name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/tea ... p?id=10113 (motto and I find the name "Jew bot" racist and Biggoted, but thats not aginst HMW rules yet...)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=39730 (name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... er_id=5132 (name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=58769 (name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=35405
(name)
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/cha ... r_id=52491 (name)

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/sea ... e=1&type=1
And this is with like 2 mins of searching HMW.... JESUS freaking christ people..... /rant

I find this highly hypocritical. Simply because of your use of a religion's saviour's name in vain. But then again, I can't change your language use...

Even if I complained about it, you're entitled to use the language you so chose to. The problem lies in the fact that the site is frequented by numerous members of different countries. I know for a fact that the PG-13 rating here in the States is highly different than the other ratings in other countries. So, one's PG-13 is another's G and could very well be another's X or NC-17.

So....

Word.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:11 pm

Believe it or not, we mods have known about most of these for a long time, they (The F--- related ones at least) would've been changed a while ago had it not been for two factors:
1) These guys are no longer active, and thus would not respond to PMs asking them to change their names, and most likely wouldn't bother responding to emails asking for such actions to me taken.
2) There are only two people on this site with the ability to change them w/o the user's permission: Seibs and Glyph. Seibs' concern is elsewhere on the site (as usual) and Glyph made a comeback for a few days, and vanished again (which is starting to worry me a little).