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Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.
Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.
Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.
Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.
Delicon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.
Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.
Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.
Some parts are lighter than others but generally there is obvious gray on his head and several other spots.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Yeah, the only parts on him that are indisputably gray are his face, his helmet "jewel", his belt (a darker shade), and... his hands? (okay, that one might be disputable)Hellscream9999 wrote:A tertiary color does not make it his primary color (that'd be the same as saying that since he ,has orange on him, that he should instead be colored orange), the rest of him is clearly teal-green, and a darker shade of teal-greenDelicon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.
Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.
Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.
Some parts are lighter than others but generally there is obvious gray on his head and several other spots.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, the only parts on him that are indisputably gray are his face, his helmet "jewel", his belt (a darker shade), and... his hands? (okay, that one might be disputable)Hellscream9999 wrote:A tertiary color does not make it his primary color (that'd be the same as saying that since he ,has orange on him, that he should instead be colored orange), the rest of him is clearly teal-green, and a darker shade of teal-greenDelicon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.
Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.
Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.
Some parts are lighter than others but generally there is obvious gray on his head and several other spots.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Delicon wrote:And finally...
Let's be fair, anyone who has thoroughly watched G1, especially the third season of G1 knows that the animation was extremely inconsistent but grey Kup was all over the place. Was he colored brighter or lighter sometimes? Sure, but there was plenty of gray on him in the cartoon and enough that you would think of all the redecos we'd ha e a primarily gray Kup by now.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Yeah, that's definitely pale teal and dull teal on him in that pic.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:And finally...
Let's be fair, anyone who has thoroughly watched G1, especially the third season of G1 knows that the animation was extremely inconsistent but grey Kup was all over the place. Was he colored brighter or lighter sometimes? Sure, but there was plenty of gray on him in the cartoon and enough that you would think of all the redecos we'd ha e a primarily gray Kup by now.
But he isn't, he's predominantly teal-green, while it may at times skew towards grey, it's most likely due to attempts at lighting and would not justify coloring every release of him as grey, and you might just have a slight case of color blindness
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:And finally...
Let's be fair, anyone who has thoroughly watched G1, especially the third season of G1 knows that the animation was extremely inconsistent but grey Kup was all over the place. Was he colored brighter or lighter sometimes? Sure, but there was plenty of gray on him in the cartoon and enough that you would think of all the redecos we'd ha e a primarily gray Kup by now.
But he isn't, he's predominantly teal-green, while it may at times skew towards grey, it's most likely due to attempts at lighting and would not justify coloring every release of him as grey, and you might just have a slight case of color blindness
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, that's definitely pale teal and dull teal on him in that pic.Hellscream9999 wrote:Delicon wrote:And finally...
Let's be fair, anyone who has thoroughly watched G1, especially the third season of G1 knows that the animation was extremely inconsistent but grey Kup was all over the place. Was he colored brighter or lighter sometimes? Sure, but there was plenty of gray on him in the cartoon and enough that you would think of all the redecos we'd ha e a primarily gray Kup by now.
But he isn't, he's predominantly teal-green, while it may at times skew towards grey, it's most likely due to attempts at lighting and would not justify coloring every release of him as grey, and you might just have a slight case of color blindness
Plus, as I said, with how show-accuracy-obsessed Takara is, that they've always colored Kup's toys predominately green and never predominately gray should say something about how he was colored in the cartoon.
And don't forget that Floro Dery designed Kup for the 1986 movie, with Kup's 1986 toy being based on Dery's design. Kup's toy came second to his cartoon model, meaning his toy's colors were derived from his cartoon colors.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Floro Dery is usually credited with the initial, overly-detailed, design sketched upon which the toys are based. However, the designs were refined for the cartoon, with changes the toys never saw. Also complicating things is that it usually resulted in two character models, an older and a newer one, being used by different studios, at the same time. Go compare Broadside between episodes (or even in the same episode!).
william-james88 wrote:If anybody wants to make sure they arent colour blind, here is a nice test: http://enchroma.com/test/instructions/
Delicon wrote:Further complicating the issue is the episode Chaos where Kup is shown clearly in both color schemes, although the teal represents the young Kup.
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His face and helmet dot are gray, but that's it.Delicon wrote:Did you seriously say THAT pic was all teal and no gray???
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:His face and helmet dot are gray, but that's it.Delicon wrote:Did you seriously say THAT pic was all teal and no gray???
I very much see dark dull teal and very pale teal on his body.Delicon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:His face and helmet dot are gray, but that's it.Delicon wrote:Did you seriously say THAT pic was all teal and no gray???
There are other pics you could make the argument on but really not that one. He's multiple shades of gray here clearly.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Agamemnon wrote:Delicon wrote:Further complicating the issue is the episode Chaos where Kup is shown clearly in both color schemes, although the teal represents the young Kup.
I think the fading of the teal is intended to show the extreme age of Kup. All of us old guys tend to start graying over time..
(And I'd say that both look like shades of teal to me in this pic too. Might be personal bias in that I always considered Kup pale teal in color....might be monitor settings. If anyone has a few hours I'll tell you all about trying to quality inspect packaging to Pantone color sheets. It might require barrels of ale to get through...)
Sabrblade wrote:I very much see dark dull teal and very pale teal on his body.Delicon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:His face and helmet dot are gray, but that's it.Delicon wrote:Did you seriously say THAT pic was all teal and no gray???
There are other pics you could make the argument on but really not that one. He's multiple shades of gray here clearly.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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