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In my griping, I forgot to mention - WOO! DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN TERRAIN TYPES!

Jesus Prime wrote:I posted it elsewhere, but I really hate the name "fireblast". It seems, mechanically, that barrage, or salvo, or something else, would work better. [/minor gripe]

Agreed "fireblast" is realy just a slightly different way of saying "firepower". In fact I belive Hasbro has used it before on some of it's TF statcards.

Nico wrote:Maybe there will be movie altmode? Modified Police car anyone?

Back when I thought Barricade was supposed to be a 2006-07 Dodge Charger interceptor, I asked Phasewing to create me one. He actually did create it, complete with red and blue lights. When we learned Barricade was a Saleen (not Ford?) Mustang, he took the lead and created a Mustang interceptor (which I think also has red and blue lights).


My team's alt modes:
General Autoban Lee = 1969 Dodge Charger R/T
Shotgun/Railspike = 500 Series Bullet Train
Pacific = 700 Series Bullet Train
Express = E4 Max Series Bullet Train*
Urbaneise = Lamborghini* or "Datsun" 280-ZX interceptor
Broadcast = boom box* (same model as Twincast with 4 speakers)
Cumulonimbus (a.k.a. Cumulus) = Spacefighter (of Shi'ar design; similar to G1 Cyclonus)
* mode is already present and being used.

Jar Axel wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:I posted it elsewhere, but I really hate the name "fireblast". It seems, mechanically, that barrage, or salvo, or something else, would work better. [/minor gripe]

Agreed "fireblast" is realy just a slightly different way of saying "firepower". In fact I belive Hasbro has used it before on some of it's TF statcards.

It's true. First used in RiD, fireblast was Hasbro's 2000s way of not raising the ire of anti-gun parents who faint at the use of the word "firepower". In a fit of irony, The same RiD tech specs that first used "fireblast" used the Spanish (Potencia de Fuego) and French (Puissance de Feu) translations for "firepower".
Knowing French, I'm quite sure that "puissance" (power) does not equal "blast". Then again, "souffle de feu" looks silly.

Well lets just toss up names that could be used instead of fireblast keeping in mind its wide range of use:

Hyperblast, Hyperburst, Hypershot, Hypercannon, Charged Shot, Aimed Shot, MegaCannon, Critical Shot.

unless you actually need the "fire" in there, will it engulf them in flames? that would be cool, other elemental based stuff wold be too.

Since "Fireblast" on the HMW Help's XP Calculator is described as "firing your turret(s)", such as those on a (larger) spaceship, battleship, or tank, I think Barrage or Salvo would be more appropriate.
It's a version of Strafe that doesn't suggest "air support" or "ground suppression".

oh sorry, I didnt see those discriptions, I assumed it was a general term for a powerful single ranged attack.

This is sweet Mkall, mighty sweet. I've been really keen on joining the preds, but losing vehicle alts would really suck for me since my team is divided at about half being vehicles and half being animals.

Cybertronian wrote:

Jar Axel wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:I posted it elsewhere, but I really hate the name "fireblast". It seems, mechanically, that barrage, or salvo, or something else, would work better. [/minor gripe]

Agreed "fireblast" is realy just a slightly different way of saying "firepower". In fact I belive Hasbro has used it before on some of it's TF statcards.

It's true. First used in RiD, fireblast was Hasbro's 2000s way of not raising the ire of anti-gun parents who faint at the use of the word "firepower". In a fit of irony, The same RiD tech specs that first used "fireblast" used the Spanish (Potencia de Fuego) and French (Puissance de Feu) translations for "firepower".
Knowing French, I'm quite sure that "puissance" (power) does not equal "blast". Then again, "souffle de feu" looks silly.

wasn't it first used on the G1 micromaster tech specs?

i do like barrage, it sounds right!

Tammuz wrote:

Cybertronian wrote:

Jar Axel wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:I posted it elsewhere, but I really hate the name "fireblast". It seems, mechanically, that barrage, or salvo, or something else, would work better. [/minor gripe]

Agreed "fireblast" is realy just a slightly different way of saying "firepower". In fact I belive Hasbro has used it before on some of it's TF statcards.

It's true. First used in RiD, fireblast was Hasbro's 2000s way of not raising the ire of anti-gun parents who faint at the use of the word "firepower". In a fit of irony, The same RiD tech specs that first used "fireblast" used the Spanish (Potencia de Fuego) and French (Puissance de Feu) translations for "firepower".
Knowing French, I'm quite sure that "puissance" (power) does not equal "blast". Then again, "souffle de feu" looks silly.

wasn't it first used on the G1 micromaster tech specs?

i do like barrage, it sounds right!

Barrage does sound about right since it's a full continuos broadside while a salvo is just a single firing of all the guns in a single arc

I guess I'm one of the only folks that likes "Fireblast" as a tactic name.

Granted, it sounds more like a G1 Dinobot or Dragon-type tactic, because I automatically think of flamethrowers when I hear the name.

What about the same tactic, different names for purely fluff purposes? Fireblast for the Dinobots / Dragons / Monsters, Shell for Tanks / Trucks / Battleships / Whatever else? More than likely not gonna happen because of the programming that would have to be added or tweaked, but it's just a thought...

is there really a differance in which alt mode you pick?

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Windracer wrote:I guess I'm one of the only folks that likes "Fireblast" as a tactic name.

Granted, it sounds more like a G1 Dinobot or Dragon-type tactic, because I automatically think of flamethrowers when I hear the name.

isn't it also one of the most powerful attacks for fire pokemon?

Windracer wrote:What about the same tactic, different names for purely fluff purposes? Fireblast for the Dinobots / Dragons / Monsters, Shell for Tanks / Trucks / Battleships / Whatever else? More than likely not gonna happen because of the programming that would have to be added or tweaked, but it's just a thought...

i have no problems with that, just along as it isn't touted as a new tactic.

Dinobot wrote:

snorkle wrote:is there really a differance in which alt mode you pick?

Well yeah, because different alt modes give you different tactics.

i see, but i ment it like is one stronger then the rest? or does like one give you armor and one gives you dmg, etc..

snorkle wrote:

Dinobot wrote:

snorkle wrote:is there really a differance in which alt mode you pick?

Well yeah, because different alt modes give you different tactics.

i see, but i ment it like is one stronger then the rest? or does like one give you armor and one gives you dmg, etc..

no, the only thing alt mode effects is what tactics you have available to you.

Tammuz wrote:

Cybertronian wrote:

Jar Axel wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:I posted it elsewhere, but I really hate the name "fireblast". It seems, mechanically, that barrage, or salvo, or something else, would work better. [/minor gripe]

Agreed "fireblast" is realy just a slightly different way of saying "firepower". In fact I belive Hasbro has used it before on some of it's TF statcards.

It's true. First used in RiD, fireblast was Hasbro's 2000s way of not raising the ire of anti-gun parents who faint at the use of the word "firepower". In a fit of irony, The same RiD tech specs that first used "fireblast" used the Spanish (Potencia de Fuego) and French (Puissance de Feu) translations for "firepower".
Knowing French, I'm quite sure that "puissance" (power) does not equal "blast". Then again, "souffle de feu" looks silly.

wasn't it first used on the G1 micromaster tech specs?

i do like barrage, it sounds right!

I'm a wordy guy. It's really all I'm good at.

As one of three owners of th Sith Infiltrator, I'd like it if they stayed available to Cons in V2.
That and the pterodactyl in my sig *high fives Bun-Bun*

ready for the next installment? I am.

First off, I've decided not to delete the alts, except for that fugly truck. Instead I'll be replacing them with upgraded alts that hopefully fit the theme better. I've used the original images wherever I could find them



Now the real reason you guys are keeping up with this. The Maximal/Predacon altclasses. Of course these are still under development, so what you see may not be what you get.

:MAX:
-----Sea-Based----- 8
Boat [Fireblast/Avoid/Anti-Aircraft]
Nimble Sea Creature [Avoid/Stealth/Catch]
Fast Sea Creature [Ram/Avoid/Stealth]
Strong Sea Creature [Ram/Bite/Slash]
Helpful Sea Creature [Repair/Stealth/Avoid]
Tough Sea Creature [Absorb/Ram/Charge]
Noble Sea Creature [Slash/Multi-Repair/Ram]
Heroic Sea Creature [Catch/Bite/Charge]

-----Land-Based----- 17
Land Vehicle [Charge/Avoid/Ram]
Tank [Fireblast/Ram/Absorb]
Anti-Air Tank [Anti-Air/Absorb/Fireblast]
Small Land Animal [Stealth/Avoid/Slash]
Nimble Land Animal [Stealth/Avoid/Bite]
Fast Land Animal [Avoid/Slash/Catch]
Strong Land Animal [Ram/Charge/Anti-Air]
Helpful Land Animal [Multi-Repair/Bite/Stealth]
Tough Land Animal [Absorb/Ram/Charge]
Noble Land Animal [Charge/Bite/Multi-Repair]
Monstrous Land Animal [Fireblast/Anti-Air/Catch]
Heroic Land Animal [Charge/Catch/Bite]
Hunter [Catch/Bite/Charge]
Opportunistic Land Animal [Stealth/Repair/Anti-Air]
Dinosaur [Bite/Charge/Absorb]
Headmaster Animal [Ram/Headmaster/Bite]
Targetmaster Animal [Fireblast/Targetmaster/Slash]

-----Air-Based----- 10
Air Vehicle [Strafe/Dogfight/Avoid]
Nimble Air Animal [Avoid/Bite/Dogfight]
Fast Air Animal [Catch/Avoid/Dogfight]
Strong Air Animal [Drop/Ram/Avoid]
Helpful Air Animal [Repair/Dogfight/Drop]
Tough Air Animal [Slash/Absorb/Strafe]
Noble Air Animal [Bite/Multi-Repair/Dogfight]
Opportunistic Air Animal [Strafe/Ram/Repair]
Heroic AirAnimal [Catch/Dogfight/Drop]
Dragon [Strafe/Drop/Avoid]

RED:
-----Sea-Based----- 8
Boat [Fireblast/Avoid/Anti-Aircraft]
Nimble Sea Creature [Avoid/Stealth/Catch]
Fast Sea Creature [Ram/Avoid/Stealth]
Strong Sea Creature [Ram/Bite/Slash]
Tough Sea Creature [Absorb/Ram/Charge]
Dangerous Sea Creature [Charge/Slash/Ram]
Ferocious Sea Creature [Catch/Bite/Charge]
Sea Monster [Bite/Slash/Ram]

-----Land-Based----- 17
Land Vehicle [Charge/Avoid/Ram]
Tank [Fireblast/Ram/Absorb]
Small Land Animal [Stealth/Avoid/Slash]
Anti-Air Tank [Anti-Air/Absorb/Fireblast]
Nimble Land Animal [Stealth/Avoid/Bite]
Fast Land Animal [Avoid/Slash/Catch]
Strong Land Animal [Ram/Avoid/Charge]
Helpful Land Animal [Repair/Bite/Stealth]
Tough Land Animal [Absorb/Ram/Charge]
Dangerous Land Animal [Charge/Bite/Slash]
Predator [Bite/Fireblast/Charge]
Ferocious Land Animal [Bite/Slash/Charge]
Monstrous Land Animal [Fireblast/Anti-Air/Catch]
Mischievous Land Animal [Absorb/Bite/Multi-Repair]
Dinosaur [Bite/Charge/Absorb]
Headmaster Animal [Ram/Headmaster/Bite]
Targetmaster Animal [Fireblast/Targetmaster/Slash]

-----Air-Based----- 10
Air Vehicle [Strafe/Dogfight/Avoid]
Nimble Air Animal [Avoid/Bite/Dogfight]
Fast Air Animal [Catch/Avoid/Dogfight]
Strong Air Animal [Drop/Ram/Absorb]
Helpful Air Animal [Repair/Dogfight/Drop]
Tough Air Animal [Slash/Absorb/Strafe]
Dangerous Air Animal [Bite/Dogfight/Strafe]
Ferocious Air Animal [Slash/Bite/Drop]
Mischievous Air Animal [Bite/Ram/Multi-Repair]
Dragon [Strafe/Drop/Avoid]


There you have it guys. Enjoy

You rule Mkall!

Well you know my viewpoints on the Monstrous Land Animal class, but other than that, yeah, I gotta agree with Veep. You rock!


PS: The new Ecto-1 looks awesome!

I doubt there is, but got a question...the Maximal 'Land Vehicle' class, will there possibly be a sports car or 2 in there? not race car type like a formula 1 or ford gt, but sorta like mazda rx-8 or toyota supra types.

There's no way to get a Headmaster Air Vehicle, I take it that's intentional?

Just seems a bit odd, given that Highbrow, Brainstorm, Apeface and Snapdragon were all Headmaster jets.

davidasnoddy wrote:There's no way to get a Headmaster Air Vehicle, I take it that's intentional?

I made a mention of it in this post; the Targetmaster Jet has a Headmaster tactic, which I presumed to be a mistake either in the tactic name or the alt class name.

With the Predacon and Maximal List I see one problem no Insects or Arachnids unless they are listed as land animal I would think they should be on there.Some of the main characters in beast wars were insects or spiders