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i think i remember having one of these.... Shaped like a t-rex that got covered in glue then fell into a big box of guns.

I chucked it down the stairs at my bro and it smashed on the wall.... or something.

Happy memories.

Supercollider wrote:Tomy kit build toys which looked like robotic animals

Ah! I know the ones. Never owned any though. Guess i thought TF's were better.

And you of the right age to know the very first ones too!

Meh, when i was a kid, most toys were still being made out of wood.

Psychout wrote:

Supercollider wrote:And you of the right age to know the very first ones too!

Meh, when i was a kid, most toys were still being made out of wood.

I miss those wooden toys too, damn it too much reminiscing and too much beer...

Anyone else remember when scalectrics sets ran on steam and were called trains?

Tammuz wrote:just remeber that while your handing alts to one faction you are denying them to others

Yup, I'm well aware of that, trust me.

anyway you can give them any alt for their targetasters, just becuase G1 optimus prime is a truck, looks like a truck and is pretty the epitome of truckness, you can still say it's a predacon tragetmaster....

Once again, I know. The -master system is not what I want it to be at this point in time, however it is what it is and I'm trying to make the best of it, and put it where I believe it fits best, same with every other alt in the DB.

and by the looks of it only those people who are familiar with zoids are actually going to recognise them....Iron Kong could pretty pick up primal like he was the blonde heroine in a king kong film.

Yup but once again that zoids vs transformers, if we decide to add zoids to this game, we'll let you know, but for now and the forseeable future, these images are treated as transformer altmode, with the same powerlevel as all the other TFs.

EDIT: and if just becuse something looks like something but doesn't necassairly have those characteristics WTF are we doing with the whole Air/land tactics malarky. it makes no sence.

Here's a PM button () to use to talk to Omega Sentinel, I'm not going to bother responding as this is between you and him and need not involve the public unless you're trying to start a witch hunt

it would be alot easier if you didn't give faction seperate alt classes, but had them all share a the same list, but with different levels of rarity for each alt.

Redimus wrote:I REALLY dont understand this 'its not what it looks like' BS.

Of course it isnt litrally what it looks like, it's a fricking robot in disguise! But the best form of disguise is one that imitates something perfectly. So if it looks like a romulan warbird, it should also be the size of one. Using cartoon's dodgey scales as an excuse is daft. Im not saying you cant have zoids in the preds and maximals (they could be transmetal alts for isntence) but I think you should asign tactics based on what it REALLY is based on, not on what you fancy at the time, and not on what will make it easyer on you to be.

I'm actually kind of insulted that you believe I'm taking the easy way out on this or sorting them on how I "fancy" them. I'm trying to compile a list of over 650 alts here, splitting them evenly among factions, trying to create a better flavour for each side than what exists now. I have 30 classes for each side, so chances are I have already placed them as best I could. I'm sorry if my best isn't good enough for you.

Tammuz wrote:perhaps a start would be to raid the Maximal/Predacon galleries, rather than nicking half ther alts from alternative franchises.

Sorry to disappoint you Tammuz, but I drained all those galleries the first go-round. I was still over 100 short for my goal of 235 unique alts per side. So I had a choice; either pull alts from other genres, or stay canon and have loads of people angry at me for not providing them enough selection as the bots/cons

Tammuz wrote:it would be alot easier if you didn't give faction seperate alt classes, but had them all share a the same list, but with different levels of rarity for each alt.

Maybe it would've been easier. But if I had wanted easy I could stuck with the classes provided now, changed their tactics around a little and called it done. I set out to create a different flavour for each side. I didn't want all sides to have almost all of the same classes as their counterpart sides, I want, and like variety; and the only way to achieve that is different alt classes

Mkall wrote:I'm actually kind of insulted that you believe I'm taking the easy way out on this or sorting them on how I "fancy" them. I'm trying to compile a list of over 650 alts here, splitting them evenly among factions, trying to create a better flavour for each side than what exists now. I have 30 classes for each side, so chances are I have already placed them as best I could. I'm sorry if my best isn't good enough for you.

I seem to recall someone offering to help with that a few months ago.

1. Will there be at least 12 different dino species for the maximals?
2. Same as #1 but for predacons?

Please let me know, this will help me decide what faction to switch to.

Rapture wrote:1. Will there be at least 12 different dino species for the maximals?
2. Same as #1 but for predacons?

Please let me know, this will help me decide what faction to switch to.

It's really simple you want to win join the Predacons
If you want to whine and complain and lose all the time join the Maximals

HMW2 might take longer to create, but if I was Mkall , id be offended to, cause of al the good job he id on the alts. But anyhow cant please everybody at the same time.

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

Mkall, if you were short on alts for the beast factions, why not wrangle up some exotic animals from real life, too? The land/sea/air thing would let you add some pretty nice alts - whales, giant squids, that kind of thing. Or even mythical monsters, like Ziz and Leviathan.

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

But there's an ocean between us and besides I've moved onto the gin.

Supercollider wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

But there's an ocean between us and besides I've moved onto the gin.

I hope for your sake it's Gordon's.
And no ocean can stop a real man!

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

But there's an ocean between us and besides I've moved onto the gin.

I hope for your sake it's Gordon's.
And no ocean can stop a real man!

Sadly no it's not Gordon's, but it does have sloe in it!
It's hard enough walking on water but I'm darned if I'm gonna attempt it half-cut and beside I don't need to prove I'm a man, my cojones are about to fill a pram.

CLARIFICATION: My wife's expecting the birth of Mini-collider very soon.

Supercollider wrote:my cojones are about to fill a pram.

You sick bastard.

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

Mkall, if you were short on alts for the beast factions, why not wrangle up some exotic animals from real life, too? The land/sea/air thing would let you add some pretty nice alts - whales, giant squids, that kind of thing. Or even mythical monsters, like Ziz and Leviathan.

I had to Image search Ziz and the first thing I come up with is this

Somehow I can see it being a Maximal.

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

Mkall, if you were short on alts for the beast factions, why not wrangle up some exotic animals from real life, too? The land/sea/air thing would let you add some pretty nice alts - whales, giant squids, that kind of thing. Or even mythical monsters, like Ziz and Leviathan.

I had to Image search Ziz and the first thing I come up with is this

Somehow I can see it being a Maximal.

Old Hebrew mythology had three great beasts, one each ruling the sky, land and sea - Ziz, Behemoth and Leviathan in that order. There's mention of them in Job and Psalms, as far as I know.

my bad

Jesus Prime wrote:

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

Mkall, if you were short on alts for the beast factions, why not wrangle up some exotic animals from real life, too? The land/sea/air thing would let you add some pretty nice alts - whales, giant squids, that kind of thing. Or even mythical monsters, like Ziz and Leviathan.

I had to Image search Ziz and the first thing I come up with is this

Somehow I can see it being a Maximal.

Old Hebrew mythology had three great beasts, one each ruling the sky, land and sea - Ziz, Behemoth and Leviathan in that order. There's mention of them in Job and Psalms, as far as I know.

Behemoth and Leviathan? I remember them from Final Fantasy


An Alt. Question: Will the Decepticons keep the transmetal hyena alt?

Jesus Prime wrote:

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:

Supercollider wrote:too much beer...

Right. You, me, fight. Now.

Mkall, if you were short on alts for the beast factions, why not wrangle up some exotic animals from real life, too? The land/sea/air thing would let you add some pretty nice alts - whales, giant squids, that kind of thing. Or even mythical monsters, like Ziz and Leviathan.

I had to Image search Ziz and the first thing I come up with is this

Somehow I can see it being a Maximal.

Old Hebrew mythology had three great beasts, one each ruling the sky, land and sea - Ziz, Behemoth and Leviathan in that order. There's mention of them in Job and Psalms, as far as I know.

I've heard of the other two, so was Ziz the one who left before the band got famous?

Ramrider wrote:

Psychout wrote:This sounds good, Mkall, cheers.

Af if you didnt know what id be asking for for the 'cons...

Wasn't he in Action Force or something..?

[EDIT] for the record, I was thinking of this guy:



http://www.yojoe.com/archive/actfig/af/e-muton-c.jpg

Fans of the fearsome Muton must check this out!

now ive been thinking and ive talked it over with other people in hmw and maybe transmetals are agood idea but not the fact that they are triple changers, more like cheetors t2 altmode or for those who have seen the new beast wars source book scorponoks transmetal beastmode.

also i think it would also be sweet if there were to have a fuzors class for all the fuzor fans