The Energon Pub

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=503966 100% Jazz. Everybody else not so much

Now I know I've upset the gods of RNG, the fact that the last 6 moves of the battle were a weakened and all but defeated 'con all of a sudden whooping my arse
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it’s that stun-lock that was mentioned earlier. no rngenie involved, just your bot getting rammed and stunned by an enemy with superior strength. the only thing you can do to counteract that is allocate stat points to strength. you’d need to have equal or higher strength than an opponent who rams you in order to negate being stunned for multiple turns by a ramming attack. i think it’s ram = 2 turn stun so long as there’s not another ram during those 2 stunned turns.

Jack Hallows wrote:it’s that stun-lock that was mentioned earlier. no rngenie involved, just your bot getting rammed and stunned by an enemy with superior strength. the only thing you can do to counteract that is allocate stat points to strength. you’d need to have equal or higher strength than an opponent who rams you in order to negate being stunned for multiple turns by a ramming attack. i think it’s ram = 2 turn stun so long as there’s not another ram during those 2 stunned turns.

It could be argued that RNG is the reason ram went off in the first place, let alone often enough to cause the stun lock. This just tends to happen sometimes, just like when ram just doesn't go off at all during a fight. Luck of the rolls

Not arguing that ram is powerful, but rng has a lot to do with it going off at all

Not faulting you for bringing up the game mechanics of the Ram tactic, I just think it's easier (and funnier) to blame it on the fictional deities of a mechanic we've got no control over.

And yes, it's comments like this that make the Gods of RNG not happy with me

ThunderThruster wrote:Not faulting you for bringing up the game mechanics of the Ram tactic, I just think it's easier (and funnier) to blame it on the fictional deities of a mechanic we've got no control over.

And yes, it's comments like this that make the Gods of RNG not happy with me

...If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go way over there and sacrifice some Extra Virgin Olive Oil to the Random Number Gods so that they don't catch me in the smite zone for your denial of their existence...

turbomagnus wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:Not faulting you for bringing up the game mechanics of the Ram tactic, I just think it's easier (and funnier) to blame it on the fictional deities of a mechanic we've got no control over.

And yes, it's comments like this that make the Gods of RNG not happy with me

...If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go way over there and sacrifice some Extra Virgin Olive Oil to the Random Number Gods so that they don't catch me in the smite zone for your denial of their existence...

That would be a good idea For their powers are great and omnipotent, all-seeing in the world of HMW. Let us grovel before their might

I'm gonna lose lots of energon trying their gain favour again aren't I?

ThunderThruster wrote:I'm gonna lose lots of energon trying their gain favour again aren't I?

Possibly...but once the favor is gained, the rewards are plentiful. And so their words of eternal wisdom are echoed on this realm of HMW: go big or go home! kek!

On a more upfront response, you likely will regardless However, my energon has begun to slowly go up again! Finally back over 100K The higher level my characters get, the more I'm beginning to earn back, but a lot of it is due to all of my medics striking big consistently lately!

My energon strategy: CR is free if you don't have enough energon, so buy expensive (not rare) weapons to protect the energon, at a 10% loss when you sell. Kind of like a financial mini-game within the game.

Servant of Light wrote:My energon strategy: CR is free if you don't have enough energon, so buy expensive (not rare) weapons to protect the energon, at a 10% loss when you sell. Kind of like a financial mini-game within the game.

.....brilliant! Thank you for this advice!

Servant of Light wrote:My energon strategy: CR is free if you don't have enough energon, so buy expensive (not rare) weapons to protect the energon, at a 10% loss when you sell. Kind of like a financial mini-game within the game.

Hoarding weapons for selling later ... you're losing energon, I really can't see how that makes sense when you can just switch your CR chamber to manual and save energon that way.

Burn wrote:

Servant of Light wrote:My energon strategy: CR is free if you don't have enough energon, so buy expensive (not rare) weapons to protect the energon, at a 10% loss when you sell. Kind of like a financial mini-game within the game.

Hoarding weapons for selling later ... you're losing energon, I really can't see how that makes sense when you can just switch your CR chamber to manual and save energon that way.

When I read his strategy, it seemed more like he was proposing a "savings" so to speak. By the weapon not being rare, it wouldn't be a detriment to the game to hold on to it. You'd purchase the weapon at a time where you don't necessarily need the energon. Then, if you end up running low or completely out, turning off auto-CR and selling the weapon essentially takes energon from a time where you don't need it and gives it back to you at a time that you do need it. If the weapons were rare and could be used by others, I'd say it weren't a good idea.

With regard to losing energon, the money gained could pay for the armor upgrades or a more useful weapon at a time where energon is scarce. That way, while selling the weapon won't do anything for the fact that you're losing energon, it'll give you a way around the fact that you have none In this regard, I think it's pretty clever

Wingz wrote:Burn wrote:
Hoarding weapons for selling later ... you're losing energon, I really can't see how that makes sense when you can just switch your CR chamber to manual and save energon that way.

Yes, turning off auto CR would save too, I need to try and analyze gains and losses with it off.

Wingz wrote: if you end up running low or completely out,

Yeah, more of a protection strategy, I noticed after a good round of missions I would be up in energon, but then a bad round and all the gain was gone, so a 10% loss is better than all (it is actually more because 10% each time you trade).
This is all the extra I have right now, except I did use the Energon Crossbow but reset the character, planning on using it when it the character has more upgrades.

Also around here hoarding weapons is an accepted financial strategy.


Edit: It turns out CR is free if you don't have enough energon ONLY if you use auto CR.
Else it gives you the same error as if you tried to buy a weapon that is too expensive.

Wingz wrote:When I read his strategy, it seemed more like he was proposing a "savings" so to speak.

But you're not saving. You lose energon when you resell it. You're investing in an asset that depreciates as soon as it's purchased.

Servant of Light wrote:Also around here hoarding weapons is an accepted financial strategy.

As the guy who has to restock weapons when they run out in the shop, no. No it's not accepted. This is the sort of thing I've been concerned about. People buying weapons just to sit on them for who know how long, and others can't get them until I restock them, next thing the hoarder dumps their stash. Other players miss out and I have to restock weapons when there's already plenty in the game but people are hoarding them.

I can't stop people doing it, but restocking aside, it's a terrible financial strategy for the simple reason of depreciation.

Oops, when I said "around here" I didn't mean in the game.
We definitely need to leave weapons in stock for others (in the game).

Don't confuse me on Monday mornings.

Burn wrote:As the guy who has to restock weapons when they run out in the shop, no. No it's not accepted. This is the sort of thing I've been concerned about. People buying weapons just to sit on them for who know how long, and others can't get them until I restock them, next thing the hoarder dumps their stash. Other players miss out and I have to restock weapons when there's already plenty in the game but people are hoarding them.

I can't stop people doing it, but restocking aside, it's a terrible financial strategy for the simple reason of depreciation.

I understand the depreciation in value of a resold weapon. My point was something different, though it doesn't really matter for the sake of your argument.

If it makes you feel better, here is my list of unused (or "hoarded") weapons (so you know I'm not actually holding on to a lot of things):



I reformat a lot lately and have been experimenting with strafe builds off and on. The weapons above are alternate weapons I've had for a while and use off and on. The option is open to sell them, however, if I run too low on energon and need some for armor.

Also, it's already Monday for you? XD ewww...

GMT +10, and my Sunday was that busy I didn't get onto the forums last night until about 9pm.

Sadly, I'd missed nothing. Conversation is waning.

Burn wrote:GMT +10, and my Sunday was that busy I didn't get onto the forums last night until about 9pm.

Sadly, I'd missed nothing. Conversation is waning.

Sadly, yes. The next event is soon, though, so that'll likely bring more conversation

Wingz wrote:

Burn wrote:GMT +10, and my Sunday was that busy I didn't get onto the forums last night until about 9pm.

Sadly, I'd missed nothing. Conversation is waning.

Sadly, yes. The next event is soon, though, so that'll likely bring more conversation

I'm talking about the rest of the site. The HMW forums are getting a healthy dose of activity.

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=506429 4-6 33 past this hour
that coulda went better

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=506461 i got chommped on
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=510052 team green

https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=511052 DD with 7 actions in a row!

I know there's a 100%strafe club and the like, but is there a 1% club for sole survivors at 1%?
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ThunderThruster wrote:I know there's a 100%strafe club and the like, but is there a 1% club for sole survivors at 1%?
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Not sure, but let me know if you find one I'd qualify, also!