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News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:07 am

I'm expecting some point between this afternoon and this evening, since that's when the last four were revealed.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:10 am

It always happens during my Precal class, so sometime between 12:30 and 14:00 (2:00 PM)

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:13 am

They're taking questions on Twitter about it right now, so they're probably about to reveal it.

Known so far:

- Mold is from 2006
- Smaller than Scorponok
- No new head mold
- No gimmick (Headmaster, Targetmaster, Brainmaster, etc.)
- Is not Dai Atlas
- Character is from Japanese G1 cartoon, but not Victory (so, Headmasters, Masterforce, or Zone)
- Not a beast of any sort

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:16 am

I hope it's not Classics OP or Universe Inferno as Ginrai.

I love Ginrai, but he's too close in colors to any typical Optimus figure.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:17 am

I'm guessing Ginrai, but could be a curveball and be Roadfire or something like that.

Edit: they just said it wasn't using the Jetfire mold, so probably Classics OP. Doubt they would use Grimlock or Mirage.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:17 am

Mindmaster wrote:It always happens during my Precal class, so sometime between 12:30 and 14:00 (2:00 PM)

Which is 6:30pm and 10:00pm CEST. *counts down*

by **gothsaurus** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:18 am

Oh. Yeah. I meant Victory. Sorry... haven't had my cup of coffee yet. LOL.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:22 am

They also just confirmed it's a land based alt mode and the character is from Masterforce.

If it isn't Ginrai out of the '06 Classics Prime mold, I'll be surprised. If the deco is right, could be a super cool toy (think white and grey with just a touch of red, more based on the powermaster than the transtector).

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:25 am

I don't want Ginrai from Clasics Optimus. That would be the most lazy redeco ever.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:29 am

Sabrblade wrote:I don't want Ginrai from Clasics Optimus. That would be the most lazy redeco ever.

Other than Ranger out of the Mirage mold I don't know what else it could be based on the hints they gave. The whole "Land-Based Alt Mode" hint made me rule out Browning.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:30 am

Sabrblade wrote:I don't want Ginrai from Clasics Optimus. That would be the most lazy redeco ever.

Unfortunately, it's the 1 that makes most sense. Hopefully we'll all be pleasantly surprised.

by **gothsaurus** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:31 am

Okay, after the notion of Grim having a shield and sword... I would like to see a repaint of him in the set somewhere.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:31 am

Pete did also say that it isn't a Powermaster, unless they consider Powermasters and Godmasters to be different.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:Pete did also say that it isn't a Powermaster, unless they consider Powermasters and Godmasters to be different.

This is either a good point, or Pete using semantic trickery. Could be referring to the toy not being a Power/Godmaster, rather than the character?

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:36 am

Let's just hope the Club views Powermasters and Godmasters as too close to being the same thing to consider them different things. That's our only hope.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:42 am

Sabrblade wrote:Let's just hope the Club views Powermasters and Godmasters as too close to being the same thing to consider them different things. That's our only hope.

Fire Guts Ginrai can also be our hope :KREMZEEK:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:46 am

Speaking of lazy redecos: Cab/Hosehead from Inferno :lol:

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:47 am

ScottyP wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Let's just hope the Club views Powermasters and Godmasters as too close to being the same thing to consider them different things. That's our only hope.

Fire Guts Ginrai can also be our hope

I can't really see a Fire Guts version working since, fictionally speaking, the form is a temporary one used for an attack or two. Unless Ginrai is permanently attacking, there's gonna need to be some reason for why his body is always on fire.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Speaking of lazy redecos: Cab/Hosehead from Inferno

It's a 2006 mold.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:50 am

Sabrblade wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Let's just hope the Club views Powermasters and Godmasters as too close to being the same thing to consider them different things. That's our only hope.

Fire Guts Ginrai can also be our hope
I can't really see a Fire Guts version working since, fictionally speaking, the form is a temporary one used for an attack or two. Unless Ginrai is permanently attacking, there's gonna need to be some reason for why his body is always on fire.

Failed tryout for the movies and got caught up in a stunt scene gone wrong. Now he fights for truth, justice, and water. :michaelbay:

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:53 am

What about the Jetfire mold? Are there any Masterforce dudes he could work for? A Wings Universe version could even have a Decepticon defect to the Autobots.

News Credits: 643 · by **ScottyP** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:56 am

Sabrblade wrote:What about the Jetfire mold? Are there any Masterforce dudes he could work for? A Wings Universe version could even have a Decepticon defect to the Autobots.

Hydra or Buster maybe? They said it specifically wasn't the Jetfire mold though.

I'm about off to lunch, but just one more thought on Fire Guts Ginrai - they could include that in the set and then draw in the TF: Cloud colors as him "normally", thus making more people want to buy that version that's available in... the club store. Think about it. But not hard, because it's probably not true.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:58 am

Darn! I forgot they said it isn't the Jetfire mold and is a land vehicle.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:04 am

So we're left with:

Molds
Bumblebee
Mirage
Rodimus
Optimus Prime

Characters
Ranger
Road King
Lightfoot
Ginrai

Cab
Minerva
Goshooter

Lander

Really peculiar... :-?

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:07 am

Voyager, JelZe. Knock those Deluxe guys off.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:07 am

It's a Voyager mold.

*sigh* I guess Classics Prime as Ginrai is inevitable at this point. Unless anyone can think of another Masterforce character that mold could possibly work for.