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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm confused, were double Pretenders supposed to be different from the Pretenders who had shells that could transform and combine with the inner robot?
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think, Had the mecha gorilla pretender shell been fully articulated it would have been worth buying. With almost no articulation, it's a easy pass.
Think this is the way PWTT needed to design their pretender toys. With just creating fully articulated pretender shells. then using HasTak Legends class toys to fit inside the shells.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.
I think they're having a hard time even competing with Hasbro as Generations rolls on. Way back when this whole thing started, Hasbro wasn't doing G1 updates, so FunPub had a fairly clear playing field. Now that market is getting filled by Generations.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.
I think they're having a hard time even competing with Hasbro as Generations rolls on. Way back when this whole thing started, Hasbro wasn't doing G1 updates, so FunPub had a fairly clear playing field. Now that market is getting filled by Generations.
Originally had the words, And HasTak, near the end of the sentence. but edited them out.
Also agree and Think all of these repurposed CHUG and CW toys by HasTak. makes it harder for TFCC to try to compete and convince fans to buy their versions. Especially when HasTak does more extensive repurposed toys like 30th Sandstorm and the 2015 Generations Combiners Wars toys.
gothsaurus wrote:I think it's important to note that this is a new mold BASED on that unmade character. There was never a factory mold made for that mocked-up gorilla.
I'm sure if Takara or Hasbro located any old molds like that, they'd use it for an Asia exclusive reissue... which - as you said - would be great for a club exclusive.
They did the same for the Seacons.
But I'd LOVE it if they could both create new character molds like this... and hunt for missing molds from the 80s... and even re-create molds from toys (as they did from Soundwave, I hear.) Maybe with renewed excitement for certain characters (because of current show like RID2015 which is dredging up a lot of old characters like Sharkticons, etc.) they can revisit the notion.
gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I'd love to get a Cyclonus retool into that Metalhawk.
Hopefully Botcon can kinda serve as a test market. Let them drum up excitement for headmasters, target masters, pretenders... then they can put out a nice full line of cool, updated toys.
BUT not before they do a combo, amazing full GI Joe crossover line. ;-D
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Thinking TFCC has become desperate enough to use a new mold for a Botcon toy. Probably because it's becoming harder to convince fans to spend over $70 for each Botcon toy. that's just a repaint with maybe a new head.
Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.
-Kanrabat- wrote:YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
Blast Cannon wrote:This thread is brilliant. Duragrip you are a gloriously weird sexual deviant and I love it.
THIS. TFCC, please make this. I need an Optimus that is both Trukk and Munky.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Would not be the least bit surprised to see this 2015 Botcon Gorilla shell box set toy. get repurposed as a Botcon 2015 add on toy. Thinking TFCC will do a Beast Wars Optimus Primal with a inner robot being a legends class CHUG G1 Optimus Prime toy. to spoof the Trukk not monkey fan joke.
I actually enjoy most of their storylines. Not all are made of win, but I still read them anyway. The problem is that I don't love the characters until AFTER I read the stories. If you want me to buy the hell out of your stuff, let me read the comic early. I don't want to invest this much money in a bunch of characters that I may end up hating.Emerje wrote:People are also complaining about how incohesive and random this set is. Well then, this set wasn't made for you, otherwise you'd already be well aware of Fun Pubs ongoing storyline and know that this is entirely the point of the set. The figures are supposed to represent characters from different Transformers universes brought together for a common goal. You've got G1, movie, Beast Wars, Shattered Glass, and this unused prototype all forced into one team. If that doesn't excite you then you're not the target buyer.
Shockwave7 wrote:Not sure how to feel about this one. The ape looks OK. But I remember when the 'Pretenders' first came out. It was late 1988/89-ish. And it was just a few months beforehand that a line of stuffed toys called the "Purr-tenders" had come out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP-NCWAL1VU
The gimmick was they were stuffed cats that had costume pieces letting them 'disguise' as other kinds of animals. My brothers and I couldn't help noting the Transformers' Pretenders similarity and came up with our own commercials. "We're a bunch of Transformers who'll do anything to actually be SOLD - even dress up like OTHER toys!"
This was at a dark time in Transformer history when sales were going down and Hasbro was resorting to all kinds of gimmicks to boost sales. Pretenders, Headmasters, Micromasters, etc. But the Transformations weren't as slick as the original G1 figures, and they just didn't look as good.
Desslok2201 wrote:If anything, I'd consider the first wave of Headmasters (1987) the high water mark for the G1 line. That wave had the last large size TFs, the headmasters and targetmasters were very well done, and that was the only point in the G1 line where a monster like Fortress Maximus was feasible. True, it did fall after that, but in '87, TFs were still everywhere. I still remember the aisles of Children's Palace and Toys r Us choked with Transformers and Joes floor to ceiling.
Shockwave7 wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:If anything, I'd consider the first wave of Headmasters (1987) the high water mark for the G1 line. That wave had the last large size TFs, the headmasters and targetmasters were very well done, and that was the only point in the G1 line where a monster like Fortress Maximus was feasible. True, it did fall after that, but in '87, TFs were still everywhere. I still remember the aisles of Children's Palace and Toys r Us choked with Transformers and Joes floor to ceiling.
I agree they were everywhere and very popular. But sales were on the wane by then, and figure quality seemed to be as well. I had the "Apeface" headmaster, and while the jet looked cool and the robot was passable, the 'ape' was horrible. Then again, it was a triple changer, and they didn't seem able to 'do' those very well back then.
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