Eagleblaster wrote:This might increase the ko problem but for the collector who does get the original toy can see its value go up, up, up.
alldarker wrote:If you are in the toy collecting game only to see your toys go up in value, you should really start wondering if you are in it for the right reasons. That attitude only leads to scalping: abusing the real or perceived 'limited' or 'exclusive' nature of the availability of a toy.
Seibertron wrote:The mentality that KOs are OK because you can't afford or find the original absolutely baffles me. It's the same mentality that rationalizes 3rd party products. But those of you who are fans of one and not the other somehow have it worked out in your heads that it is indeed different. It's unfortunate that people try to justify all of this.
Seibertron wrote:The mentality that KOs are OK because you can't afford or find the original absolutely baffles me. It's the same mentality that rationalizes 3rd party products. But those of you who are fans of one and not the other somehow have it worked out in your heads that it is indeed different. It's unfortunate that people try to justify all of this.
REMINATOR wrote:I blew the pic up for ID purpose, original eyes are more triangle at the edge while the KO are more like rectangle:
-Kanrabat- wrote:YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
Blast Cannon wrote:This thread is brilliant. Duragrip you are a gloriously weird sexual deviant and I love it.
Bumblevivisector wrote:Wait, WHAT?!? The real ones are seriously all evil-squinting like that? I'm not sure I believe that until some better galleries get posted, but IF that's true, I'll gladly take my chances with the KO. Dammit, I was trying to fly right on this one too...
-Kanrabat- wrote:YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
Blast Cannon wrote:This thread is brilliant. Duragrip you are a gloriously weird sexual deviant and I love it.
Stormrider wrote:Can you describe the sticker difference a little more? Is the rainbow/prismatic affect absent from the KO sticker?
Are we certain these are KO versus unsanctioned releases? I realize that I am splitting hairs, but it essentially seems like someone stole a bunch of irregulars and defects and is selling them.
-Kanrabat- wrote:YEah, too many Transformers are in a serious need of a good rim job.
Blast Cannon wrote:This thread is brilliant. Duragrip you are a gloriously weird sexual deviant and I love it.
Stormrider wrote:Are we certain these are KO versus unsanctioned releases? I realize that I am splitting hairs, but it essentially seems like someone stole a bunch of irregulars and defects and is selling them.
DreadstarCybph wrote:I'am aware of those ko G1 toys. And again, to my knowledge, Takara does use parts of other toys on toys they deemed fit to use it.
The current one out could be a Asia version or HK release and not the Japan release.
Cyberpath wrote:So guys, will there be an authentic second production run by Takara for sure?
Do they have a site, facebook page, twitter, anything where they make announcements like this?
DreadstarCybph wrote:I learned from a friend about a KO mp sideswipe. I eventually did my own online research on the matter, and the forums/sites ended up pointing to taobao as the source. Taobao is an auction site. People can list prices their way down the market price to scam people just like they do on ebay. Taobao is notorious for that if you are not careful.
I checked out the other sites that forum/sites pointed to. They also ended up at Taobao. Many of those are pre-orders. the 100 yuan to 200 yuan down are pre order payment. None refundable if you cancelled. They will charge you the remaining balance once the item comes in before they ship it to you.
Differences in the heads. As a manufacturer , If I want a slight adjustment when the parts (evil eyes head sideswipe) is out of stock already, I'll put in the head part of what ever I have on hand. It just happens to be the red alert head because I have an extra run of it made for tiger tracks laying around. Also just because a manufacturer made a slight adjustment to sticker doesn't even mean its a ko.
The hologram sticker difference. same reasoning as above. The old rainbow type sticker run out. So they made a new one. Logical reasoning/proof: check your cellphone's battery. Nokia has at least 2 versions out in hologram stickers. one with the hand , another with the the word "nokia". both security stickers are originals. Nobody crying one sticker proves it real and the other different sticker is a fake. Same with Bandai Saint Seiya Myth Figures. Japan local release has a different local hologram foil sticker on the box than those being release elsewhere in Asia. You don't see people crying knock offs just because of it.
Back in the 80's to 90's - slight color differentiation, slight mold adjustment are expected during a production run . could be from mold degradation to the upper execs wanting it to look better. Its toys,people - not food. So slight adjustments, tweaking here and there are normal . Yet they are all considered as originals. These days, a slight adjustment happens and people shout like hell its a bloody knock off! sheesh....
I held a lot of Kos in my life time. I buy, collect and also get them for friends. The suppose KO MP12 in my opinion,versus the evidence at hand, (and I hope you guys can respect that,) is not a KO, but just a modified sideswipe with a new head.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
DreadstarCybph wrote:These days, modern toys ..like DOTM tomahawk , DOTM vortex then the GDO Springer - different heads but all shared the same body.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
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