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Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Jak, tell me your feelings on MP Ironhide?

I have such a roboner for Ironhide. Panel controversy aside, they've never bugged me and I've been excited for him since day one. And that video review we posted just cemented my excitement

OH GOOD! I'm relieved. After you posted that mod last night, I feared you were on the side of doubt. I should know better of course. You are the official Seiby MP spokesman after all.
I think he looks awesome and can't wait to get him. Peoples expectations are sometimes too out of wack. He was never gonna be toy or show accurate, which I feel gives him the freedom to be what ever he will be. and that's all I ask off him.

(the below picture is completely sarcastic)

Hey C-Dowwg! been meaning to cronrats you on your new "Master Rack"

But it's been hard though , it kept reminding me of what i had/could of had

G2SS and WJ are in the back and Skywarp and Appolyon are missing.Loved that shelf display

Cobotron wrote:OH GOOD! I'm relieved. After you posted that mod last night, I feared you were on the side of doubt. I should know better of course. You are the official Seiby MP spokesman after all.

Y'know... I've been thinking about MP's I don't like or wasn't excited for, and the list is surprisingly short. Here's my MP pit-falls:
*This includes every MP mold and variation I own*

Disappointed- Ravage
He's just so small and delicate... still a feat of engineering, but for one of my favorite characters it was a big let down.

Unimpressed- Ratbat
He does exactly what he's supposed to, and nothing more. I actually like the G1 tape better. It might seem like I'm picking on the cassettes, but I find the rest of them marvelous.

Unexcited- Hasbro Sunstorm
That bronze/brown kills it. I only kinda like him because he's a seeker. And that's saying a lot since I love's me some weirdo seekers (Acid Storm and TT Sunstorm, I'm lookin at you).

Cobotron wrote:Peoples expectations are sometimes too out of wack.

You nailed it. Also I think lots of people switched to auto-hate simply because he wasn't designed by the dude who made the Datsun's and such.

shajaki wrote:Also I think lots of people switched to auto-hate...

Boom, that's it. There is an awful lot of that in our hobby. And on the reverse side of that coin, and just as bad - auto-like.

Anyone who've ever spent time on video game sites know the blind rage of the fanboy. Same thing's true here on seibertron.

We all have our biases, but we have to remember that they're ours and ours alone.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Probably Skywarp, as I always liked his color scheme.

Though Acid Storm is quite tempting as well.

Good answer. IF my theory holds, Skywarp may be easy to obtain. Acid Storm on the other hand will be a pricey Ebay hunt. I think with MPs you shouldn't stress to bad about acquiring them. I think they will be around for a long time and you will have plenty of opportunities to catch up.
Did you once state that you have Shockwave on pre-order, or at least worked into your budget for the year?
Now if I don't reply right away, don't get your panties in a bunch. Just kidding sorry I skipped over your post.

william-james88 wrote:Gotta admit, while I dont care for the characters nor for the resulting bot modes, the engineering on both Hot Rod and Ironhide looks INSANE! I would love it if we could test drive these TFs and give them a transforming spin.

It's funny, because I always wish this specifically for you. Like a car dealership. If you could walk into your local Transformers dealership and test drive a bot before you buy it. That would be great.

Genocide G2.0 wrote:Hey C-Dowwg! been meaning to crongrats you on your new "Master Rack"

Thanks G! I remember seeing that shelf over a year ago in your thread. Aside from the awesome bots on it, I really like the shelf itself.
So if you are feeling regret, why DID you unload all your MPs? Was it out of necessity or did you just need a change of direction/scenery?

shajaki wrote:Y'know... I've been thinking about MP's I don't like or wasn't excited for, and the list is surprisingly short. Here's my MP pit-falls:

You know what? I too was really disapointed in Ravage, or at least very underwhelmed. They did such a great job with Rumble and just taking the G1 toy and making it worlds better. There is something off about Ravage's proportions. I wish they had stayed with the old toys design a little harder.
Ratbat is just Ratbat. I just don't like the way he attaches to SW's arm and shoulder. the wings always get in the way. I don't have either condor, but I can see how the attachment system works better for them.
I don't have the Takara version to compare Sunstorm to, but at first I was a little thrown by his copper colors. They have really grown on me though, and I find him to be interesting to look at. I also really like the subtlety of the flame job on his wings.

I'm happy to say that except for Ravage I have yet to be disappointed in any of the MPs I have. There are some things I would have liked to see done different with Tracks, but I don't hate him, and Road Rage made me forget what those things even were. I was skeptical about Grimlock, but once I got him he really won me over.

shajaki wrote:You nailed it. Also I think lots of people switched to auto-hate simply because he wasn't designed by the dude who made the Datsun's and such.

Hmmmmm? even I have felt a little remorse over this. (Tracks) But, it's not fare to short change new designers. They didn't get the job by designing piles of suck, that's for sure. I also think some folks just fly on auto-hate, and said hate is contagious.

carytheone wrote:Some really sage ass old wizardly yoda ****.

check the sig update wise Master.

Cobotron wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Probably Skywarp, as I always liked his color scheme.

Though Acid Storm is quite tempting as well.

Good answer. IF my theory holds, Skywarp may be easy to obtain. Acid Storm on the other hand will be a pricey Ebay hunt. I think with MPs you shouldn't stress to bad about acquiring them. I think they will be around for a long time and you will have plenty of opportunities to catch up.
Did you once state that you have Shockwave on pre-order, or at least worked into your budget for the year?
Now if I don't reply right away, don't get your panties in a bunch. Just kidding sorry I skipped over your post.

I had him in my budget, but then they went and leaked Computron and Liokaiser.

And I actually did find an old Hasbro Skywarp for $60 at a comics shop in Anaheim, but I didn't get him (which I'm kinda regretting).

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:You nailed it. Also I think lots of people switched to auto-hate simply because he wasn't designed by the dude who made the Datsun's and such.

Hmmmmm? even I have felt a little remorse over this. (Tracks) But, it's not fare to short change new designers. They didn't get the job by designing piles of suck, that's for sure. I also think some folks just fly on auto-hate, and said hate is contagious.

You know what's pretty funny?

I don't even think of the people designing the figures. Weird, right? It's just Hasbro or Takara guys, they have the source material, they put it in 3D software and make it work. SORCERY!!

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not all "ooooh this guy didn't design this so it's not as cool as that guy who designed those ones over there."

Also, and I guess with me being an Optimist Prime, I'm more in the "auto-like" portion of the fandom. It doesn't mean I'm going to buy a figure, it just means that I understand that these people clearly took SOME time to come up with something that ended up working with the time/monetary constraints they were given. And if it looks like something I want in my personal preference collection, I'll buy it.

It's all art maaaaaaaaaaaan!!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:And I actually did find an old Hasbro Skywarp for $60 at a comics shop in Anaheim, but I didn't get him (which I'm kinda regretting).

I picked up Skywarp when he was on clearance at Walmart for $25 or $27. They had a few back then, just sitting there. I bought two and gave one away just because I didn't want a scalper getting it!

itscramtastic wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:And I actually did find an old Hasbro Skywarp for $60 at a comics shop in Anaheim, but I didn't get him (which I'm kinda regretting).

I picked up Skywarp when he was on clearance at Walmart for $25 or $27. They had a few back then, just sitting there. I bought two and gave one away just because I didn't want a scalper getting it!

My uncle did the same thing with a couple of MP Thundercrackers that he found at a Big Lots, except for the fact that they ended up getting returned for some reason.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:I had him in my budget, but then they went and leaked Computron and Liokaiser.

CONSPIRACY!!! How dare they force you to buy two awesome toys over one awesome toy!?!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:And I actually did find an old Hasbro Skywarp for $60 at a comics shop in Anaheim, but I didn't get him (which I'm kinda regretting).

Well, if my crystal ball sees clearly, maybe you will have the chance to buy a brand new MP-11 mold with an even better Skywarp deco for that very same price.

itscramtastic wrote:I picked up Skywarp when he was on clearance at Walmart for $25 or $27. They had a few back then, just sitting there.

$19.99 plus tax BABY! the Week after Xmas IIRC.

hereallyistastic wrote:I bought two and gave one away just because I didn't want a scalper getting it!

Huzzah! Like a modern day Robin Hood!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:My uncle did the same thing with a couple of MP Thundercrackers that he found at a Big Lots, except for the fact that they ended up getting returned for some reason.

Thundercracker!?! At Big Lots!?! Zowy! That would have been an awesome find. Still kicking myself for not getting him.

itscramtastic wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:You nailed it. Also I think lots of people switched to auto-hate simply because he wasn't designed by the dude who made the Datsun's and such.

Hmmmmm? even I have felt a little remorse over this. (Tracks) But, it's not fare to short change new designers. They didn't get the job by designing piles of suck, that's for sure. I also think some folks just fly on auto-hate, and said hate is contagious.

You know what's pretty funny?

I don't even think of the people designing the figures. Weird, right? It's just Hasbro or Takara guys, they have the source material, they put it in 3D software and make it work. SORCERY!!

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not all "ooooh this guy didn't design this so it's not as cool as that guy who designed those ones over there."

Also, and I guess with me being an Optimist Prime, I'm more in the "auto-like" portion of the fandom. It doesn't mean I'm going to buy a figure, it just means that I understand that these people clearly took SOME time to come up with something that ended up working with the time/monetary constraints they were given. And if it looks like something I want in my personal preference collection, I'll buy it.

Ya know it's funny. In Japan these guys are treated like pop stars, 'cause they are. They are responsible for designing Japanese pop culture icons. That's why the Takara guys are always rockin' cool shades, black blazers with jeans and cowboy boots, and rock star hair cuts.
This got me wondereing why we don't treat the Hasbro designers the same. So I asked someone I know who has had creative dealings with Hasbro. His answer was, "Because Hasbro won't allow it". He stated that the creative climate at Hasbro is very cut throat, and that Hasbro even pits the designers against each other to compete to even keep their jobs. We all know who Aaron Archer is because he saved the franchise, and John Warden (lead on CW) has been in the spot light a lot lately, but can anyone name any other Hasbro designers.
My point is these guys are artists and experts at what they do, and I think they deserve a little more credit.
The whole reason I collect these things is because I view them as pieces of...

he'srightontastic wrote:It's all art maaaaaaaaaaaan!!

Dig it Daddy-O

Cobotron wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:I had him in my budget, but then they went and leaked Computron and Liokaiser.

CONSPIRACY!!! How dare they force you to buy two awesome toys over one awesome toy!?!

Priorities, mate.

Cobotron wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:And I actually did find an old Hasbro Skywarp for $60 at a comics shop in Anaheim, but I didn't get him (which I'm kinda regretting).

Well, if my crystal ball sees clearly, maybe you will have the chance to buy a brand new MP-11 mold with an even better Skywarp deco for that very same price.

I would appreciate the prospect, provided I have extra money.

Cobotron wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:My uncle did the same thing with a couple of MP Thundercrackers that he found at a Big Lots, except for the fact that they ended up getting returned for some reason.

Thundercracker!?! At Big Lots!?! Zowy! That would have been an awesome find. Still kicking myself for not getting him.

That was years ago, though. Kinda wishing that he still had them around.

deal-o-tron wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:I picked up Skywarp when he was on clearance at Walmart for $25 or $27. They had a few back then, just sitting there.

$19.99 plus tax BABY! the Week after Xmas IIRC.

Well aren't you Mr. Fancypants. I probably coulda waited.

friartron wrote:

hereallyistastic wrote:I bought two and gave one away just because I didn't want a scalper getting it!

Huzzah! Like a modern day Robin Hood!

Hey, better to a friend who wouldn't mind having him than some jerk selling him for $100!

itscramtastic wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:You nailed it. Also I think lots of people switched to auto-hate simply because he wasn't designed by the dude who made the Datsun's and such.

Hmmmmm? even I have felt a little remorse over this. (Tracks) But, it's not fare to short change new designers. They didn't get the job by designing piles of suck, that's for sure. I also think some folks just fly on auto-hate, and said hate is contagious.

You know what's pretty funny?

I don't even think of the people designing the figures. Weird, right? It's just Hasbro or Takara guys, they have the source material, they put it in 3D software and make it work. SORCERY!!

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not all "ooooh this guy didn't design this so it's not as cool as that guy who designed those ones over there."

Also, and I guess with me being an Optimist Prime, I'm more in the "auto-like" portion of the fandom. It doesn't mean I'm going to buy a figure, it just means that I understand that these people clearly took SOME time to come up with something that ended up working with the time/monetary constraints they were given. And if it looks like something I want in my personal preference collection, I'll buy it.

concur-o-tron wrote:Ya know it's funny. In Japan these guys are treated like pop stars, 'cause they are. They are responsible for designing Japanese pop culture icons. That's why the Takara guys are always rockin' cool shades, black blazers with jeans and cowboy boots, and rock star hair cuts.
This got me wondereing why we don't treat the Hasbro designers the same. So I asked someone I know who has had creative dealings with Hasbro. His answer was, "Because Hasbro won't allow it". He stated that the creative climate at Hasbro is very cut throat, and that Hasbro even pits the designers against each other to compete to even keep their jobs. We all know who Aaron Archer is because he saved the franchise, and John Warden (lead on CW) has been in the spot light a lot lately, but can anyone name any other Hasbro designers.
My point is these guys are artists and experts at what they do, and I think they deserve a little more credit.
The whole reason I collect these things is because I view them as pieces of...

he'srightontastic wrote:It's all art maaaaaaaaaaaan!!

Dig it Daddy-O

I feel like that was my point too (what I bolded and you bolded), but it may not have come across that way

They are artists. I know I couldn't do what they do, and I can't even comprehend the weight on their shoulders, especially in Japan if what you say is true!

Ya Crammy! We are jammin' on the same tune! I was just riffing on what you said. We just having some conversational jazz, m'man. SKIBITY BOP!

Cobotron wrote:Ya Crammy! We are jammin' on the same tune! I was just riffing on what you said. We just having some conversational jazz, m'man. SKIBITY BOP!

Paraphrasing here..

"Bad designs? HISTORY!! Masterpiece, Generations, every idea any one has had about the Transformers Universe up for grabs. Conversational jazz, man.."

itscramtastic wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Ya Crammy! We are jammin' on the same tune! I was just riffing on what you said. We just having some conversational jazz, m'man. SKIBITY BOP!

Paraphrasing here..

"Bad designs? HISTORY!! Masterpiece, Generations, every idea any one has had about the Transformers Universe up for grabs. Conversational jazz, man.."

Dig it!

Tron?

Cobotron wrote:Dig it!

Tron?

I thought I wouldmake a joke, remembering that there was a transformer whos Takara name was digtron.

Turns out its even better than that, his name is Drill Nuts

http://www.robotkingdom.com/transformer ... bwc21.html

william-james88 wrote: Drill Nuts

"Drill nuts".....I question some peoples choices in transformers names

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Dig it!

Tron?

I thought I wouldmake a joke, remembering that there was a transformer whos Takara name was digtron.

Turns out its even better than that, his name is Drill Nuts

http://www.robotkingdom.com/transformer ... bwc21.html

Hmmm...

Cobotron wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Ya Crammy! We are jammin' on the same tune! I was just riffing on what you said. We just having some conversational jazz, m'man. SKIBITY BOP!

Paraphrasing here..

"Bad designs? HISTORY!! Masterpiece, Generations, every idea any one has had about the Transformers Universe up for grabs. Conversational jazz, man.."

Dig it!

Tron?

YOU KNOW IT!!

Cobotron wrote:Thanks G! I remember seeing that shelf over a year ago in your thread. Aside from the awesome bots on it, I really like the shelf itself.
So if you are feeling regret, why DID you unload all your MPs? Was it out of necessity or did you just need a change of direction/scenery?

Let's just say the Taxman is a massive ....!!

Hey Cobs you getting one of these ?

HA! we were just talking about that over at Shaki's Shack.
Naw. I'm not ready to cross the 3P MP line yet.
Although I do appreciate his Diacloney-ness.

Wait, thats MP? Looked more like the Legends scale.