The Energon Pub

"This of course puts the whole kibosh on fans wanting a complete reboot."

It should be "This of course puts the whole kibosh on entitled crybabies wanting a complete reboot."

hausjam wrote:"This of course puts the whole kibosh on fans wanting a complete reboot."

It should be "This of course puts the whole kibosh on entitled crybabies wanting a complete reboot."

I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.

william-james88 wrote:I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.

But it's still not MY Transformers! It's still not catering to MY very specific narrow-minded tastes and opinions! If it isn't EXACTLY like how things were back when I was 5 years old, then it SUUUUCKS!!!

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I still dont get how any of this matters to anyone. The Bumblebee movie proved that you can still make a film everyone will enjoy without needing a complete reboot. You can still have humans, still have the military, and even have bayverse faces and its ok.

But it's still not MY Transformers! It's still not catering to MY very specific narrow-minded tastes and opinions! If it isn't EXACTLY like how things were back when I was 5 years old, then it SUUUUCKS!!!

Couldn't say it better myself

Wait what? A follow up to The Last Knight? :O I thought I was done with looking forward to new movies after that stupid Bumblebee mess pretty much confused everyone into whether it was a reboot or not (and if it's not then it still makes a mess of everything with it's G1-inspired cybertron stuff and other contradictions). Do I finally have a reason to look forward to actually going to cinema again or is someone just messing with my head. I enjoyed TLK though my fave movie is Age of Extinction for so many reasons. I'm feeling very confused and unsure whether to get my hopes up or whether there's some mix up and I'm not getting a TF6 after all. I just wanna see more of my fave Optimus and co.
I gonna go try sleep now cos i feel rough as hell all day and had major anxiety attack too but the thought of my Bayverse TFs possibly returning has cheered me up a bit and I gonna leave before more negatory stuffs like what i already seen happen above in this thread.. bleh.. . Have a good weekend.

Bashing on picky fans aside, I wouldn't mind a movie that is 100% CGI where the action is purely on Cybertron with no humans at all. Especially for a movie that depict the start of the Cybertronian civil war. We would then explore the rise of Megatron and Optimus Prime.

Another (maybe full CGI) movie I want to see is a Beast Wars movie. The Beasts in the Bayverse on prehistoric Earth. I want to see that.

boyatlarge wrote:I think a sequel to The Last Knight would be great! As long as it starts out with a flashback to the final moments of The Last Knight, then suddenly you see Optimus Prime waking up in his bed all upset, and he's his old G1 self, and Alita-One, lying next to him, asks him if he had a bad dream, and he's like, "Oh, man, a nightmare," referring to the entire Bay-verse run and we all learn it was all just a dream and not part of canon and the movie proceeds from there.

I would absolutely see that movie.

If future movies can maintain the level of basic filmmaking competency that the Bumblebee movie brought, I guess that’s fine.

Just a shame that there’s no definitive fresh start that an actual reboot brings.

This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.

Building on the terrible foundation of the Bayverse will result in an utter collapse of the TF movie franchise. By not starting fresh and ignoring the power of nostalgia the next movie may be the last. Instead of starting a cinematic universe, they'll choke it to death.


Good luck with that ****...

SkyFire Prime wrote:This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.

Building on the terrible foundation of the Bayverse will result in an utter collapse of the TF movie franchise. By not starting fresh and ignoring the power of nostalgia the next movie may be the last. Instead of starting a cinematic universe, they'll choke it to death.


Good luck with that ****...

The only thing we lean heavily on is facts.

cruizerdave wrote:Last Knight Sequel—
Please no. No sequel to the Last Knight. It was the worst one yet in a parade of garbage that has gotten progressively worse with each film. Please no. These are trash films that can only be enjoyed by mocking them and watching them as a joke. The characters all act like they are high on cocaine, the robots aren't even treated as characters, the stories contradict themselves, the scripts are banal, the humor isn't funny to anyone but stoned frat boys, the women are objectified and there are racist and misogynist themes throughout.
Also, they are aggressively stupid.
Please, just make them stop.


Bumblebee sequel —
Okay, I'll go to that.

But fans like you never ever complain about cybertron ,energon, armada, beast wars, animated movie, g1 series here’s this for stupid power glide crush power glide riding carasal horse that is wooden and does not break under five ton weight while sitting on it there is stupid story, here is another stupid story starscream and warpath go back in time to medieval era rumble riding starscream as horse jousting warpath, Optimus prime playing basket ball with spike, energon cartoon ironhide being sidekick to human name kicker, cybertron starscream growing size of primus, grimlock wearing apron serving drinks to bots and humans on cybertron,.

G1 cartoon episode humans need space suits getting dead body of prime but on cybertron humans can breath and not float away but space ships enter and exit plant cybertron they don’t burn up exit plant and entering planet to land how is that for stupid, here is another humor autobots going to Hollywood wear Alien masks to be in Hollywood movie where is stupid response to that crap what you see in movies is what hey get in some cartoons you want complain about some movies complain about some cartoons as well it goes both ways talking to you people is talking to brick wall no getting through to you cartoons did it first then movies

dragons wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:Last Knight Sequel—
Please no. No sequel to the Last Knight. It was the worst one yet in a parade of garbage that has gotten progressively worse with each film. Please no. These are trash films that can only be enjoyed by mocking them and watching them as a joke. The characters all act like they are high on cocaine, the robots aren't even treated as characters, the stories contradict themselves, the scripts are banal, the humor isn't funny to anyone but stoned frat boys, the women are objectified and there are racist and misogynist themes throughout.
Also, they are aggressively stupid.
Please, just make them stop.


Bumblebee sequel —
Okay, I'll go to that.

But fans like you never ever complain about cybertron ,energon, armada, beast wars, animated movie, g1 series here’s this for stupid power glide crush power glide riding carasal horse that is wooden and does not break under five ton weight while sitting on it there is stupid story, here is another stupid story starscream and warpath go back in time to medieval era rumble riding starscream as horse jousting warpath, Optimus prime playing basket ball with spike, energon cartoon ironhide being sidekick to human name kicker, cybertron starscream growing size of primus, grimlock wearing apron serving drinks to bots and humans on cybertron,.

G1 cartoon episode humans need space suits getting dead body of prime but on cybertron humans can breath and not float away but space ships enter and exit plant cybertron they don’t burn up exit plant and entering planet to land how is that for stupid, here is another humor autobots going to Hollywood wear Alien masks to be in Hollywood movie where is stupid response to that crap what you see in movies is what hey get in some cartoons you want complain about some movies complain about some cartoons as well it goes both ways talking to you people is talking to brick wall no getting through to you cartoons did it first then movies

Yes, the G1 cartoon had silly episodes. It churned out a lot of ideas to fill out episodes, and a lot of those were bad/stock 80s (especially season 2). It was made on a dodgy budget and it doesn’t always look good.

Transformers 1-5 are still terrible and a waste of the Transformers.

As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.

-Kanrabat- wrote:As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.

We can appreciate what the movies did for the franchise and still think that they're all piles of steaming hot garbage (except Bumblebee). The two aren't mutually exclusive.

steals_your_goats wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.

We can appreciate what the movies did for the franchise and still think that they're all piles of steaming hot garbage (except Bumblebee). The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The Truth!

Bee movie sequel: not being a reboot kills a lot of enthusiasm, but I'll still check it out.


TLK sequel: are you **** kidding me? Maybe a sequel to DotM, but AoE and TLK were such incredibly bad shitstorms there is literally no way to save that end of the franchise. The best writer in the world couldn't fix that.


This is all sad news.

Ironhidensh wrote:TLK sequel: are you **** kidding me? Maybe a sequel to DotM, but AoE and TLK were such incredibly bad shitstorms there is literally no way to save that end of the franchise. The best writer in the world couldn't fix that.

"TLK sequel" is likely just marketing speech for "next main Transformers movie set after the fifth one" or, to put it more simply, "Transformers 6".

steals_your_goats wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.

We can appreciate what the movies did for the franchise and still think that they're all piles of steaming hot garbage (except Bumblebee). The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The 2007 movie was phenomenal. ROTF was acceptable. DOTM was bad. AoE was disapointing. TLK was trash. Then, Bee movie turn back the clock and brought back greatness. Let's hope the downward spiral won't repeat itself.

At least the movies brought something amazing and it was new design styles and engineering for the toys. Now if the movies can remain as good as 2007 and Bee, we are in for something awesome down the line.

But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?
I think we should wait for more info.

SkyFire Prime wrote:This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.

Are sure you have been hangin out in this site since 2007?

-Kanrabat- wrote:As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.


The 2007 movie was phenomenal. ROTF was acceptable. DOTM was bad. AoE was disapointing. TLK was trash. Then, Bee movie turn back the clock and brought back greatness. Let's hope the downward spiral won't repeat itself.

At least the movies brought something amazing and it was new design styles and engineering for the toys. Now if the movies can remain as good as 2007 and Bee, we are in for something awesome down the line.

Sabrblade wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I really don't care about the movies themselves anymore
Mostly because they turn everyone into hateful idiots.

Except for the Bumblebee movie.

No no. Even Bumblebee.

SkyFire Prime wrote:This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.

I think you're confusing "site" with "member base" and you're still wrong.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:

boyatlarge wrote:I think a sequel to The Last Knight would be great! As long as it starts out with a flashback to the final moments of The Last Knight, then suddenly you see Optimus Prime waking up in his bed all upset, and he's his old G1 self, and Alita-One, lying next to him, asks him if he had a bad dream, and he's like, "Oh, man, a nightmare," referring to the entire Bay-verse run and we all learn it was all just a dream and not part of canon and the movie proceeds from there.

I would absolutely see that movie.

I’d be right there in line with you, money in hand.

TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?
I think we should wait for more info.

Ha, there is no extra info that would help. The Bee movie came out and everyone involved in making it stated very clearly that it was a prequel and that not everything needed to match up perfectly since it never did anyway.

And still, we have people using the word reboot. In any case, to answer your question, the word reboot was only ever used by fans wishing the bayverse was dead. Any official word coming from paramount is that Bumblebee is a stand alone film within the live action tf franchise. And yes, it can spawn off more stories, there is a sequel being done. But still, no reboot.

SkyFire Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.

We can appreciate what the movies did for the franchise and still think that they're all piles of steaming hot garbage (except Bumblebee). The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The Truth!

I’ll second that.

[quote="TulioDude"]But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?
I think we should wait for more info.


We did as a major news release ...

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/movies/bu ... 39482.html

The info out of this interview is certainly confusing. Larry “D” strikes again.