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A soft reboot is not the same thing as a hard reboot.TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Like in the English version of Pokemon: The First Movie?TrypticonCarne wrote:I only have one request and one request only. In the final film chronologically when the war is finally over can we please get the credits song be "Brother my Brother" by Blessid Union of Souls
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Like in the English version of Pokemon: The First Movie?TrypticonCarne wrote:I only have one request and one request only. In the final film chronologically when the war is finally over can we please get the credits song be "Brother my Brother" by Blessid Union of Souls
i yeah i dont get why they made unicron this unusable character like if this thing came to life it would mean the earth would be destroyed then whats the pointRodimus Prime wrote:I was hoping TLK wouldn't be the last film, it ended on a cliffhanger. I hate that. I just hope that a competent writer is hired to make some sense of the story up to now, and handle Unicron at least decently. I won't compare this iteration to G1, because it's a different universe. Unicron could have a totally different origin.
As for a sequel to the Bee movie, my initial reaction is to pass on it altogether, I didn't care for the movie. At all. But I'll see who they cast, and if it won't be a SJW circle jerk this time around and there are more TF characters, I'll give it a shot.
Dinobot4ever wrote:TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?![]()
I think we should wait for more info.
We did as a major news release ...
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/movies/bu ... 39482.html
The info out of this interview is certainly confusing.![]()
Larry “D” strikes again.
Dinobot4ever wrote:TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?![]()
I think we should wait for more info.
We did as a major news release ...
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/movies/bu ... 39482.html
The info out of this interview is certainly confusing.![]()
Larry “D” strikes again.
SkyFire Prime wrote:If it continues the Bayverse Saga, I'll make sure my family / friends don't go, it won't take much, they have a very low opinion of Transformers. Paramount is wasting their money.
"Movieverse" has been in effect for as long as "Bayverse" and "Bayformers" have.ZeroWolf wrote:SkyFire Prime wrote:If it continues the Bayverse Saga, I'll make sure my family / friends don't go, it won't take much, they have a very low opinion of Transformers. Paramount is wasting their money.
Bumblebee continues the bay verse saga. Plus I think we should rename the movies soon as bayverse won't be accurate if he's no longer involved in them directly. Plus don't write the new films off till you see who's writing them. Bay is often the target but the writers need to take the blame as well.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:SkyFire Prime wrote:If it continues the Bayverse Saga, I'll make sure my family / friends don't go, it won't take much, they have a very low opinion of Transformers. Paramount is wasting their money.
Bumblebee continues the bay verse saga. Plus I think we should rename the movies soon as bayverse won't be accurate if he's no longer involved in them directly. Plus don't write the new films off till you see who's writing them. Bay is often the target but the writers need to take the blame as well.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Burn wrote:SkyFire Prime wrote:This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.
I think you're confusing "site" with "member base" and you're still wrong.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
william-james88 wrote:Dinobot4ever wrote:TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?![]()
I think we should wait for more info.
We did as a major news release ...
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/movies/bu ... 39482.html
The info out of this interview is certainly confusing.![]()
Larry “D” strikes again.
Oh come on Dinobot, not you too. Did you even read that article before posting it? As it turns out, there is no quote saying it is a reboot. There isnt even a quote![]()
And yet the article wrote a clickbait title like that and people just blindly passed it along without realizing they were propogating fake news brought about by piss poor journalism.
The misinformation from those articles was started by TFW, who are currently not newsing this new Bonaventura interview. I guess because that would mean they wrote a BS article all along which spread to major news outlets, and no one wants to admit that.
Dinobot4ever wrote:
The Matrix of Leadersip not residing in Optimus' superstructure - he is not a Prime without it and would, in fact, still be Orion Pax.
Galvatron was created by a Steve Jobs-like character - he was created by Unicron.
The Allspark is a metaphysical, quasi-religous concept ... In Bayverse it is crossed up with an energon cube and given a physical existence.
A red European sportscar alt-mode character is introduced in the Bayverse called "Dino" when it should have obviously been Sideswipe. And to further screw things up, Sideswipe is introduced in the next movie ... as a silver Corvette concept alt-mode?!?
*sigh*Sabrblade wrote:But it's still not MY Transformers! It's still not catering to MY very specific narrow-minded tastes and opinions! If it isn't EXACTLY like how things were back when I was 5 years old, then it SUUUUCKS!!!
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:SkyFire Prime wrote:This site seems to lean heavily into Bayverse support.
I think you're confusing "site" with "member base" and you're still wrong.
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He obviously wasn't here during the lead up to the first movie, remember those swell times?
Dinobot4ever wrote:william-james88 wrote:Dinobot4ever wrote:TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?![]()
I think we should wait for more info.
We did as a major news release ...
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/movies/bu ... 39482.html
The info out of this interview is certainly confusing.![]()
Larry “D” strikes again.
Oh come on Dinobot, not you too. Did you even read that article before posting it? As it turns out, there is no quote saying it is a reboot. There isnt even a quote![]()
And yet the article wrote a clickbait title like that and people just blindly passed it along without realizing they were propogating fake news brought about by piss poor journalism.
The misinformation from those articles was started by TFW, who are currently not newsing this new Bonaventura interview. I guess because that would mean they wrote a BS article all along which spread to major news outlets, and no one wants to admit that.
Will, no need to be insulting, my friend. Yes, I did read the article. And there is a quote from Hasbro ... ‘officially declared as a new storytelling universe’. Call that a reboot (hard, soft, something in between), refresh, reimagining, retooling, … whatever, Bumblebee is something cinematically and very largely substantively different than the Bayverse. A rose is a rose is a rose.
As to the TFW article being bogus, are there any vidoes of that panel available? I would be keenly interested in seeing it, so I can hear, with my own ears, what was said. If there was a misquote, I'll yield and be highly disappointed for the live action franchise moving forward. Any kind of continuation of the Bayverse will heavily cripple future storytelling and most likely mean the franchise will financially come to a quick halt. TLK was a big warning of that end ...
SkyFire Prime wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:As usual, Bay haters conveniently forget that the Bayverse put back transformers in the mainstream and brought in a whole new generation of fans. Even geewun veterans like me, who gave up on transformers in 1988.
We can appreciate what the movies did for the franchise and still think that they're all piles of steaming hot garbage (except Bumblebee). The two aren't mutually exclusive.
The Truth!
william-james88 wrote:Dinobot4ever wrote:william-james88 wrote:Dinobot4ever wrote:TulioDude wrote:But didnt we get the information before,that the Bumbleebee movie would be a soft reboot and would be used as a base for future films?![]()
I think we should wait for more info.
We did as a major news release ...
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/movies/bu ... 39482.html
The info out of this interview is certainly confusing.![]()
Larry “D” strikes again.
Oh come on Dinobot, not you too. Did you even read that article before posting it? As it turns out, there is no quote saying it is a reboot. There isnt even a quote![]()
And yet the article wrote a clickbait title like that and people just blindly passed it along without realizing they were propogating fake news brought about by piss poor journalism.
The misinformation from those articles was started by TFW, who are currently not newsing this new Bonaventura interview. I guess because that would mean they wrote a BS article all along which spread to major news outlets, and no one wants to admit that.
Will, no need to be insulting, my friend. Yes, I did read the article. And there is a quote from Hasbro ... ‘officially declared as a new storytelling universe’. Call that a reboot (hard, soft, something in between), refresh, reimagining, retooling, … whatever, Bumblebee is something cinematically and very largely substantively different than the Bayverse. A rose is a rose is a rose.
As to the TFW article being bogus, are there any vidoes of that panel available? I would be keenly interested in seeing it, so I can hear, with my own ears, what was said. If there was a misquote, I'll yield and be highly disappointed for the live action franchise moving forward. Any kind of continuation of the Bayverse will heavily cripple future storytelling and most likely mean the franchise will financially come to a quick halt. TLK was a big warning of that end ...
Hey man, thanks for the reply and I didnt mean to be insulting. That article just ticks me off as a (fan website) journalist because it really reeks of clickbait. Sadly, there is no recording, but even if there was and we heard something along the lines of what was written, I still wouldnt feel comfortable declaring a reboot to anything for a few reasons. The first being that the word reboot was not said and the second being that the toy department at Hasbro (where this supposedly came from) is not involved with the films. Misquoting the toy department and newsing their words as facts has happened before and already lead to misinformation: https://news.tfw2005.com/2018/02/18/joh ... ure-359410
All I am saying is that if any of us want the truth, then why dont we look to the people who actually made the film? I know why of course, its because many like you are sick of Bayverse so when everyone involved with the film's scripting states that Bee is part of Bayverse (including the director or producer), we would rather not pay it any mind. Basically, this is a big case of confirmation bias. Those who want to hear Bee is a prequel and will lead to a reboot hear that and those who dont will hear the opposite. I am just here to discern the facts. And when it comes to what was said at Toyfair, there is no actual quote. What the article you posted quotes TFW, not Hasbro (with no mention of who even said anything, which is essential for a quote) and TFW doesnt even provide a quote themselves. Just words they inferred and words that no one can corroborate. People were at Toyfair (friends of mine) and did not hear what could be inferred to as a reboot. Because trust me, if they did, then we would have that quote and have made a nice news story for you allAnyways, you dont have to trust me, others who attended the same talk at Toyfair have stated that they cant corroborate what TFW wrote: https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-16694316
But like I said, doesnt really matter either way since I would look more towards what people involved with the films would have to say since that's the primary source.
And thats all besides the point because I think the bayverse as we once knew it is dead. And by that I mean films made by Bay. Bumblebee proved that a film within this movieverse does not have to reek of Bay (even though it is literally a Bay film, as shown boldly in the ending credits). Sure Bee had that Bay face and there was the military involved and lots of humans but it had heart and character and fun clear action scenes. I think we will get more of that. And in the end, thats all anyone wanted. We dont need a reboot to get away from bay, we just dont need BayAnd Bumblebee proved all that. So with this lesson learnt for Paramount, I think we can be optimistic about the future.
Take care all!
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