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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:19 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Bay is out though, I can't see him signing up for more, and can't see how much input he'd put in anyway if he's not in the director chair. You'd be better off hoping that they don't go with the writers of the past films


Speaking of bay and fake news: http://transmy.com/movie/bay-is-back-wi ... t6CbXSIJk0

Dinobot4ever wrote:Isn’t this the same kind of misinformation and confusion we got leading into each Bayformer movie. Seems SNAFU to me ...

Will, love the picture of Scrapper and Grapple poring over plans. Very apropos.


Haha, yeah, I thought that worked perfectly, glad you like it ;)^

And you are right about that misinformation. We were told something similar for both AOE (which was a soft reboot, but the same thing as before anyways) and for The Last Knight (which proved to be yet another soft reboot of the TF universe, not gelling with past films, but still the same thing as before anyways).

While the word reboot has been on a lot of people's minds, I think what matters most is that the film is good and I am slightly less optimistic than I was the last time we spoke.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby cruizerdave » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:38 am

It's gonna be this! No wait, this! No THIS!

It's like watching the screenwriters of the Bayformers films stumble stupidly over themselves as they try to grasp basic story telling concepts.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby WiseMan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:05 pm

Bring in Unicron for the sequel, kill him, make it cause a Bayverse-version Unicron Singularity, show a few clips of screwed-up continuity and say that's why, and Bob's your uncle.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby TrypticonCarne » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:51 pm

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Dinobot4ever » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:36 pm

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Bay is out though, I can't see him signing up for more, and can't see how much input he'd put in anyway if he's not in the director chair. You'd be better off hoping that they don't go with the writers of the past films


Speaking of bay and fake news: http://transmy.com/movie/bay-is-back-wi ... t6CbXSIJk0

Dinobot4ever wrote:Isn’t this the same kind of misinformation and confusion we got leading into each Bayformer movie. Seems SNAFU to me ...

Will, love the picture of Scrapper and Grapple poring over plans. Very apropos.


Haha, yeah, I thought that worked perfectly, glad you like it ;)^

And you are right about that misinformation. We were told something similar for both AOE (which was a soft reboot, but the same thing as before anyways) and for The Last Knight (which proved to be yet another soft reboot of the TF universe, not gelling with past films, but still the same thing as before anyways).

While the word reboot has been on a lot of people's minds, I think what matters most is that the film is good and I am slightly less optimistic than I was the last time we spoke.


Agree. My optimism is a bit more guarded now. I think a wait and see approach is in order.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby TrypticonCarne » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:21 pm

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Looks like romance is not out the question
http://collider.com/transformers-movies ... ove-story/
One of the things I want to see, and I don’t know if we’ll do this particular thing, but I think we will eventually do a love story between Transformers. What does a love story mean? Definitely not sex, maybe not even kissing, but the idea that they would have that emotional crush has never really been brought in. That’s kind of the direction we’re going to try to head into, which is to give them human desires that, up until now, we haven’t seen much of. I think that will change the relationship with the Transformers. So we may do some wild action, we’ll do action for sure in the main line, but it’s a different kind of attempt. I know we will hold on to a lot of the lessons from Bumblebee.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Black Hat » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:37 pm

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TrypticonCarne wrote:Looks like romance is not out the question
http://collider.com/transformers-movies ... ove-story/
One of the things I want to see, and I don’t know if we’ll do this particular thing, but I think we will eventually do a love story between Transformers. What does a love story mean? Definitely not sex, maybe not even kissing, but the idea that they would have that emotional crush has never really been brought in. That’s kind of the direction we’re going to try to head into, which is to give them human desires that, up until now, we haven’t seen much of. I think that will change the relationship with the Transformers. So we may do some wild action, we’ll do action for sure in the main line, but it’s a different kind of attempt. I know we will hold on to a lot of the lessons from Bumblebee.

This is pretty cool. I'm a sucker for a well done romance so hopefully this pans out well.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:10 am

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I personally consider Silverbolt/Blackarachnia and Chromedome/Rewind to be the only Transformer/Transformer romances in the franchise with substantial depth and good writing.

Other times the romances can be not actually awful but pretty shallow or too squicky/uncanny/creepy.

I think romance can work in the franchise but it's the kind of thing to be careful with and not just put two Transformers together just because or for some token romantic relationship.

It's kinda part of my reasoning for why I dislike the token female Transformer role in Transformers shows and would prefer multiple female characters on both sides or none at all, not that they always end up in romances or anything but how many times has Arcee been a character just to fill in that quota? I kinda actually like Windblade being around since both times she's been in a show it's been in addition to already existing female characters and the other is that she is the main female character but not the only one who existed and I like that in Cyberverse her and Bumblebee are more like close friends then a couple.

I think I'm kinda rambling here but anyways I think romance can be done right even on the big screen...but I do not trust the current creative team to get it right, not as they are as they need someone like Travis Knight again who can put care and thought into his writing and have a reason for something to exist besides filling a trope, maybe not him specifically although I think he could pull off a decent romance but someone like him.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:32 am

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I get the impression from people's reactions when IDW did the chromedome/rewind coupling that they may shy away from that and instead just hook arcee up with someone or go wholehog and make a live adaption of the girl who loved powerglide.

Though it would be a powerful gesture if they did the chromedome/rewind romance, but we'll see what they do when the time comes.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:10 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:I get the impression from people's reactions when IDW did the chromedome/rewind coupling that they may shy away from that and instead just hook arcee up with someone or go wholehog and make a live adaption of the girl who loved powerglide.

Though it would be a powerful gesture if they did the chromedome/rewind romance, but we'll see what they do when the time comes.


I don't think the actual pairing of Chromedome and Rewind is gonna hit the nail again, not the type of relationship itself but specifically those two...I don't know what they can do that isn't retreading old ground or would be superior to what came before.

Also I swear that Arcee has had some sort of romantic relationship/tones with half of the well known Autobots in the franchise. From Bumblebee to Clfiffjumper to Ratchet to Sideswipe to several of her fellow 1986 Autobots (I was actually going to say Hot Rod, Springer and Blurr but then realized I don't actually remember Blurr and Arcee ever being a pairing)

I think the only major Autobots I can think of that she hasn't had anything like that is Ironhide, Jazz and Optimus himself, and even then I could be wrong.


Actually curious to see a list of all her romantic partners in the franchise whether made clear or implications only.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Gzstg » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:27 pm

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I think her article on tfwiki has a list of her partners.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby bruticus24484 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:55 pm

The gamestop article is older than the Japanese interview which is leading me to believe that "continuing in the main series after The Last Knight" is going to be what it sounds like. I don't think people are going to get the radical change they are hoping for.

As mentioned, the films were technically solf rebooted twice already, and haven't done much to maintain continuity anyway. I expect Bumblebee was just another soft reboot, and that they will just be retooling continuity as they go.

Personally I don't care much. I've actually enjoyed the films and personally don't want to see a straight adaptation of the '84 toon designs in live action. So for me the news is as expected.

I am a bit disappointed that they are dropping Unicron. Granted it was kind of early and he needs some proper build up but if Marvel can do Thanos surely transformers can handle Unicron. Things were finally getting interesting.
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Making Sense of the Latest Lorenzo di Bonaventura Interiview

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:41 pm

There has been a lot of misinformation regarding the future of the Transformers film franchise and while people are quick to claim it is due to the film producer, director or "Hasbro" going back and forth, the real culprit seems to be misleading headlines in articles. Sometimes, in the hope of garnering views, an entertainment news site will opt for a very eye catching title but the problem is that many will simply look at the title and not read the article, which can quickly spread misinformation. This is happening a lot recently with Transformers movie news, like the time sites claimed "Hasbro" confirmed the Bumblebee film was a reboot. Sadly, anyone reading the articles would see that there was no quote from any Hasbro representative using the word "reboot" when describing Bumblebee. The sites didn't even care to name any specific individual credited to have said anything on the matter. It was just assumptions and people's interpretations that kept being passed on. Nothing concrete, unlike what any headline announced.

I mention all that because the community and news sites are at it again. Recently, Lorenzo di Bonaventura stated that there is currently a script being done for the next film in the Transformers live action Franchise, one that would come after Transformers: The Last Knight. This prompted many sites to state that The last Knight was getting a sequel. While I can see the logic of that interpretation, all di Bonaventura said was that there would be another film, not that the specific storyline established in a previous film would be continued.

Basically, the next big Transformers film would come after The last Knight just like Age of Extinction came after Dark of the Moon. Set in the present, in the established live action universe, but with no real connection to past stories (which is par for the course in Transformers live action films when you think about it).

That is why when we are presented with the short interview below, where di Bonaventura says that "no" when asked by Slash Film if the next script picks up where The Last Knight left off, it fits perfectly well with all that was said. Not just by him, but by Brian Goldner, over a year ago at the 2018 Toy fair, when we were told that past stories would be dropped going forward and that a new team at Paramount was to oversee the future films.

So while we would love to be reporting you actual news, saying that the next big Transformers film will not be picking up elements from where the Last Knight left off is something we were told a long time ago.

We do have some other news though, in the same interview, di Bonaventura stated that Michael Bay would not be returning as director for upcoming Transformers films. However, this would also be par for the course as we have been told time and time again that Michael Bay was done with the franchise and yet he would still come back. Right now, all we know is that any upcoming Transformers film (either taking place in the past or present) is still at the scripting phase and there is no director attached.

Here is the latest quick interview:

For the next Transformers are you looking for new directors or hoping you can still make Michael Bay an offer?

I think Bay has made it really clear that he loved what he did and he’s not doing anymore. So I think the answer is we’re writing a script. At that point, once we get script we have a strong belief in, then we’ll begin to debate that. Michael’s made it really clear that he didn’t want to do it. I don’t blame him. He spent a hell of a lot, a decade of his life, shooting them.

Are you developing a script that picks up where The Last Knight left off?

No.


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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby william-james88 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:48 pm

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