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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Sat May 02, 2020 11:23 pm

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This might be an ok movie in-of-itself but anyone getting their hopes up that it's going to meet any expectations that this movie will be like the Beast Wars show is going to be disappointing.

Even if they have the Transformer designs just like the show the movie story and such itself will be new, it will be the Bayformers of Beast Wars even if it's a good movie, this is a reimagining not an adaptation.

They can't fit more then 5 or so episodes of story into one movie so the scope will be limited and so will the characters.

I'm not saying this movie will be bad, I'm saying it will not live up to expectations.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun May 03, 2020 3:51 am

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As much of a fan of Beast Wars as I am, I really hope this film never comes to be. Make a Bumblebee sequel, sure. It had more going for it than the previous few Live Action films, but not Beast Wars.

The part they don't get is Beast Wars isn't "a spin off" (I rolled my eyes when I read that), it is a Legacy series. Is there enough legacy to the Bayformers series to portray their future descendants? Absolutely not. They barely set foot off of Earth. Hardly a civil war across the galaxy that would influence the future.

Just throwing out a brand name, as a cash grab, will always lure a certain set of people. But a gross misunderstanding of what that property even is, dooms the film before it even starts. As far as explaining BW to a general audience, I'd expect it to be equally as superficial...

Studio: "That Optimus Prime turns into an ape"
General Audience: "Why?"
Studio: "Because Beast Wars. Geddit?"
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 03, 2020 9:08 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.

Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.

I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 03, 2020 9:17 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.

Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.

I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Sun May 03, 2020 12:19 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I would like to see the Maximals and Predacons on the big screen, but I really hope that with the way TLK ended we get a proper conclusion to that story.

Yes, I know I'm in the small minority of those who want that.

I'm actually with you, I would like to see a conclusion to TLK

There isn't much to really go off of for an ending anyways using only TLK and it's ending.

Quintessa is...alive? She certainly doesn't seem like she once was and besides scheming has little to no power, Megatron got literally disarmed and then got his butt kicked out of a ship (strange to me how it was Nitro Zeus that was the last man standing even if so brief so good for him) and for all we know he died on impact although unlikely which leaves him the biggest loose end, Barricade either escaped to live another day or was killed at Stonehenge.

As for Unicron? Well here is an easy answer, he sleeps and never wakes up which might lead to his death via whatever Quintessa's plan was going to be.

The Autobots go home to Cybertron and maybe get it out of Earth's orbit, the humans have their happy ever afters, consider the Bayverse ended.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun May 03, 2020 12:38 pm

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The problem is, that satisfys no one but those who don't like the movies. There is several ways they could take things, and Quintessas plan probably involves doing more then just keeping unicron asleep. Being asleep is not the same as being dead afterall, there's always a chance to wake up (ask Cthuthulu about that). One way to solve the issue is that Unicron's essence is transferred into a host (willing or not) to take the fight to our heroes.

Remember, there's very few bad ideas, just terrible execution. The Bumblebee sequel could turn out just like Revenge of the Fallen depending on writers etc.

I should clarify though that I see a last knight sequel about as likely as G1 Wheelie getting a spin off movie where him and Live Action Wheelie end up in a comedy buddy trip movie. My point is that there's always places to take things of you've got writers willing to do the work, and there's people who want to see more of what happens (just they're in the same boat as those who want Amazing Spider Man 3)
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 03, 2020 3:31 pm

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Deadput wrote:(strange to me how it was Nitro Zeus that was the last man standing even if so brief so good for him)
His lasting the longest was likely leftover from an earlier script in which he would have been decapitated and had his body taken over by Cogman, Headmaster-style, based on how the Nitro Zeus toy is Titan Master-compatible for seemingly no in-story reason when going off the final version of the movie.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby TulioDude » Sun May 03, 2020 5:12 pm

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I believe that Barricade is alive.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 03, 2020 6:23 pm

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TulioDude wrote:I believe that Barricade is alive.

He's the con that cannot die
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Mon May 04, 2020 3:19 am

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TulioDude wrote:I believe that Barricade is alive.


He might be but the Tfwiki (yes I know it's fan made and thus not official word or anything) considers him to be dead so I was listing him off as dead as a possibility even though he's probably alive and I don't consider anyone dead where possible in these movies, I'm an advocate of the "Dino is alive" camp.

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is, that satisfys no one but those who don't like the movies.

This is true but you want to know what also wasn't satisfying to Bay fans?

The Last Knight, which is a shame because I went to that 25 minute movie preview thing where they had the early Hot Rod voice and such, and I liked what we saw there but then again very rarely does a preview pick the worst pieces from a film to show.

Still worth it for that poster and usb thing.

Obviously things were not properly planned but if it were up to me The Last Knight should of been a 2 part film, one dealing with the junk yard situation and a more down to Earth (literally) film with the Autobots dealing with Megatron's gang while part 2 would of been the whole Cybertron and Evil Prime stuff.

Sabrblade wrote:His lasting the longest was likely leftover from an earlier script in which he would have been decapitated and had his body taken over by Cogman, Headmaster-style, based on how the Nitro Zeus toy is Titan Master-compatible for seemingly no in-story reason when going off the final version of the movie.


While true of course, what was intended for the film and ultimately what is in the film are different things, regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby TulioDude » Mon May 04, 2020 9:55 am

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Deadput wrote:regardless Nitro Zeus is the best thing from the film to me and my fave Decepticon in the franchise as ridiculous as that sounds, he's got plenty of potential in another part of the franchise as a Decepticon who talks and acts like a dumb grunt but is a surprisingly competent hunter for Shockwave, yes toy/website bios aren't exactly "canon" but it's a part of why I like the character.


Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios. ;)^
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Re: Discussion on Next Live Action Transformers Film after Bumblebee

Postby Deadput » Mon May 04, 2020 1:15 pm

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TulioDude wrote:
Don't feel bad for that,there so many character that only had characterization because of those bios. ;)^


This is true, the creative imagination from fans and creators is a big part of why Transformers is the way it is today.
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