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njb902 wrote:1. They sacrificed hundreds of clones to save 1 or 2 Jedi a few times in the tv show.
njb902 wrote:2. Look at how the non Jedi treat them.
njb902 wrote:3. They are all subordinate to Jedi or non clones. Where are the clone generals?
njb902 wrote:4. Subject to termination for being "defective".
njb902 wrote:5. Forced to learn to fight from childhood.
njb902 wrote:6. Offically they don't even have names just numbers.
njb902 wrote:7. Genetically engineered to fallow orders.
njb902 wrote:8. Paid for.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:njb902 wrote:1. They sacrificed hundreds of clones to save 1 or 2 Jedi a few times in the tv show.
That's because Jedi are high priority. Not only because it takes decades to properly train them, or because they would have valuable information, but because, done just right, a Jedi can be twisted into Sith. And that's no good for anyone.njb902 wrote:2. Look at how the non Jedi treat them.
The Mandalorians seemed to like them.njb902 wrote:3. They are all subordinate to Jedi or non clones. Where are the clone generals?
There are none, but their rank does go all the way up to Commander. Historically, Jedi are put in charge as Generals.njb902 wrote:4. Subject to termination for being "defective".
Technically yes, but wrong definition of "defect." Slick defected to the Separatists, and got numerous other Clones killed. He wasn't executed for being defective, he was executed for being a traitor. Meanwhile, 99, an actually defective clone, was still put to work basically as a janitor on Kamino.njb902 wrote:5. Forced to learn to fight from childhood.
So are the Jedi.njb902 wrote:6. Offically they don't even have names just numbers.
I don't know what numbers you use where you're from, but I don't know the numbers Rex and Cody.njb902 wrote:7. Genetically engineered to fallow orders.
Partially. It also comes from Mandalorian genetics.njb902 wrote:8. Paid for.
Soldiers don't come free, no matter how they're born.
njb902 wrote:1. I just do not see it, besides the mission to save peill(sp?).
njb902 wrote:3. every military non clone in the show is over the clones.
njb902 wrote:4. the kaminoans sure seemed to want to terminate delta squad(i think it was delta squad anyways, the squad with heavy, echo, cut up, fives and huh forgot the fifth).
njb902 wrote:5. the jedi are slaves as well. though i guess latter they can choose to eave the order.
njb902 wrote:6. I bet you nowhere will you find those names in their data jackets.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:njb902 wrote:1. I just do not see it, besides the mission to save peill(sp?).
You don't see what, a Jedi falling to the Dark Side? They do that all the time. And not always by choice. Bastila Shan was tortured by Darth Malak until she fell, and Anakin had been manipulated into it by Palapatine since before the Clone Wars.njb902 wrote:3. every military non clone in the show is over the clones.
We don't see a whole lot of non-clone, non-Jedi in the military, though.njb902 wrote:4. the kaminoans sure seemed to want to terminate delta squad(i think it was delta squad anyways, the squad with heavy, echo, cut up, fives and huh forgot the fifth).
Wrong on both counts. Delta Squad was Boss, Sev, Fixer and Scorch, the ones you were referring to were Domino Squad (Not even Clone Commandos, they were training to become ARC Troopers) and the Kiminoans were considering demoting them to maintenance duty because of their repeated test failures. Which they later passed, becoming the first members of the 501st, which would go on to become Vader's Fist in the Empire.njb902 wrote:5. the jedi are slaves as well. though i guess latter they can choose to eave the order.
They're more akin to Monks, they're not slaves at all.njb902 wrote:6. I bet you nowhere will you find those names in their data jackets.
Rex and Cody are exclusively referred to by name, the only one to ever refer to the clones by only their number was Pong Krell, and by the time he's introduced, he's fallen to the Dark Side. In fact, the Jedi were the ones who encouraged the Clones to name themselves.
njb902 wrote:1. Hmm that is something to think about.
njb902 wrote:2. More like cultists than monks. Eh on second thought I don't think either description fits well. Templars or crusaders maybe?
njb902 wrote:4. If we are going by the books it is stated in order 66 and 501 that the clones don't have real names. Plus the clone army numbers in the millions having just first names wouldn't cut it.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Coughler wrote:whats next for disney to buy Nintendo? Hasbro? Sony? Yahoo? jeez
Burn wrote:Coughler wrote:whats next for disney to buy Nintendo? Hasbro? Sony? Yahoo? jeez
I doubt they'll go after Yahoo. They bought Infoseek, turned it into Go and ballsed everything up.
Nintendo however might be a likely target. They would go hand in hand with each other.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Burn wrote:Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Explain your reasoning.
Wigglez wrote:Burn wrote:Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Explain your reasoning.
Well, they didn't explain besides that Disney is this big commercial entity now and the only thing I can link that to zombies is that Umbrella was also a big commercial entity as well. My swords have been waiting for blood for a while now
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Wigglez wrote:Burn wrote:Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Explain your reasoning.
Well, they didn't explain besides that Disney is this big commercial entity now and the only thing I can link that to zombies is that Umbrella was also a big commercial entity as well. My swords have been waiting for blood for a while now
Disney is an entertainment company. Umbrella was largely pharmaceuticals and weapons development. It's kind of a huge leap in what apparently passes for logic in your friends.
Shadowman wrote:Wigglez wrote:Burn wrote:Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Explain your reasoning.
Well, they didn't explain besides that Disney is this big commercial entity now and the only thing I can link that to zombies is that Umbrella was also a big commercial entity as well. My swords have been waiting for blood for a while now
Disney is an entertainment company. Umbrella was largely pharmaceuticals and weapons development. It's kind of a huge leap in what apparently passes for logic in your friends.
Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Wigglez wrote:Burn wrote:Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Explain your reasoning.
Well, they didn't explain besides that Disney is this big commercial entity now and the only thing I can link that to zombies is that Umbrella was also a big commercial entity as well. My swords have been waiting for blood for a while now
Disney is an entertainment company. Umbrella was largely pharmaceuticals and weapons development. It's kind of a huge leap in what apparently passes for logic in your friends.
Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
Wigglez wrote:Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Wigglez wrote:Burn wrote:Wigglez wrote:So my friends have this crazy idea that because of Disney buying Lucas Films and that they bought Marvel and Hasbro might be next, that Disney is going to be the cause of the zombie apocalypse. I believe them...
Explain your reasoning.
Well, they didn't explain besides that Disney is this big commercial entity now and the only thing I can link that to zombies is that Umbrella was also a big commercial entity as well. My swords have been waiting for blood for a while now
Disney is an entertainment company. Umbrella was largely pharmaceuticals and weapons development. It's kind of a huge leap in what apparently passes for logic in your friends.
Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
Exactly. They have Walt Dinseys body on ice. How do you know they're not coming up with some sort of syrum to reanimate his dead body? The more we get into this, for all we know, Disney himself can be the very first zombie to infect the world.
Burn wrote:Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
Wigglez wrote:Exactly. They have Walt Dinseys body on ice. How do you know they're not coming up with some sort of syrum to reanimate his dead body? The more we get into this, for all we know, Disney himself can be the very first zombie to infect the world.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
No, but at the same time you can't prove that they do.
Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
No, but at the same time you can't prove that they do.
Never said I could. I was merely pointing out the flaw in your statement.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
No, but at the same time you can't prove that they do.
Never said I could. I was merely pointing out the flaw in your statement.
Your statement is just one huge flaw, though, so my point still stands.
Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
No, but at the same time you can't prove that they do.
Never said I could. I was merely pointing out the flaw in your statement.
Your statement is just one huge flaw, though, so my point still stands.
Your statement is just as flawed. So you know, just accept that you're as wrong, and as right, as me.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Can you prove that Disney don't have a hidden biological weapons development lab?
No, but at the same time you can't prove that they do.
Never said I could. I was merely pointing out the flaw in your statement.
Your statement is just one huge flaw, though, so my point still stands.
Your statement is just as flawed. So you know, just accept that you're as wrong, and as right, as me.
You're either serious about that, which is really sad, or you're trolling, which is really sad.
RhA wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Your statement is just as flawed. So you know, just accept that you're as wrong, and as right, as me.
You're either serious about that, which is really sad, or you're trolling, which is really sad.
There it is again, a demeaning attitude towards conversation partners. It seems to occur as soon as you run out of arguments.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:RhA wrote:Shadowman wrote:Burn wrote:Your statement is just as flawed. So you know, just accept that you're as wrong, and as right, as me.
You're either serious about that, which is really sad, or you're trolling, which is really sad.
There it is again, a demeaning attitude towards conversation partners. It seems to occur as soon as you run out of arguments.
It's not my fault Burn is using insane jumps in pseudo-logic either genuinely or, most likely, (Knowing Burn) to get a rise out of me. Again.
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