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by **TheStarScreamer** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:16 am

Arcee does to Transformers what douchebags did to the guitar.

I've been married for 5 years. The last thing I need is annoying women in my hobbies.

by **syphonn** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:47 pm

Based on what we saw on the last movie, do you really think the creative team will go into this kind of depth when explaining issues of gender or the origins of female characters and their role if any in reproduction? I'll even go a step further to say that they will definitely play up on Arcee's femininity to do things such as arouse male characters or have a Beast Wars style Silverbolt-Black Arachnia-Cheetor love triangle. They will again, go the way of low brow lowest common demoninator antics

by **Raven Guard** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:33 pm

TheStarScreamer wrote:Arcee does to Transformers what douchebags did to the guitar.

I've been married for 5 years. The last thing I need is annoying women in my hobbies.

whats that supposed to mean? Women in your hobbies?Don't tell me your one of those guys that think women can't serve in the military.

by **TheStarScreamer** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:51 pm

Huh? My wife is in the Air Force. :-?

by **Gojira Prime** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:56 pm

TheStarScreamer wrote:Huh? My wife is in the Air Force.

Didn't see that coming

BTW: Pink is just a color, I suppose next you're gonna complain about Soundwave always being blue. That would make me :sad:

by **Siren Prime** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:54 pm

Jazzz wrote:I can't believe this thread is still active.

I was going to say the same thing...
Oh, well... fights are a good way to blow off steam.
(As long as people respect everybody's opinions)

by **Groundswell** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:02 pm

Siren Prime wrote:
Jazzz wrote:I can't believe this thread is still active.

I was going to say the same thing...
Oh, well... fights are a good way to blow off steam.
(As long as people respect everybody's opinions)

Ah yes, everyone get out your favorite autobot and decepticon and beat the crap out of the side you want to fight. My Optimus Prime will kick all you all's!

by **Siren Prime** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:25 pm

Groundswell wrote:
Siren Prime wrote:
Jazzz wrote:I can't believe this thread is still active.

I was going to say the same thing...
Oh, well... fights are a good way to blow off steam.
(As long as people respect everybody's opinions)

Ah yes, everyone get out your favorite autobot and decepticon and beat the crap out of the side you want to fight. My Optimus Prime will kick all you all's!

Yeah, well my Starscream will slice his arms off!!

Oh, boy... ANYWAY... Back to the topic!!

by **Saberspark model H.** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:19 pm

I'm not aposed to fembots (or femcons) but I'm just playing out the senarico

watching the movie then you see a pink motorcycle drive up with the Hologram rider and then RC transforms and there is like a three second pause and then it goes up from the toes to the head. Then some random dumb@ss in the audience stands up and Yells "How the hell do Transformers have sex?" then there would be a big upproar in the theater some people would leave except me and I wouldn't question it.

To this day I don't know they create new TFs but I definatly know it's not sex.

A robot with a repoductional organs makes me laugh just sit there and Imagine it for a second. ROBOT SEX Sparks fly literaly |:|

by **TheStarScreamer** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:39 am

If there's time to develop a robot love story or even have robot flirting, the new film's going to suck. I'd rather see more Sam/Bumblebee interaction.

If they can introduce a female robot like Arcee without her looking like the current toy, or acting like a stereotype (like in G1, clumsy and flirty, worthless in battle, and annoyingly motherly), then I'd be all for it. These films are Bay films, and we all know how well Bay does love stories.

The action needs to be the focus, not gimmicks.

by **cracker** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:44 am

I do not like the idea of Female Transformers creating towards the animated robots
Cracker

by **Siren Prime** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:45 pm

I don't care about any love crap.
I just want Arcee to show up and kick some butt...

But Hollywood is romance obsessed.

by **Boom.stick** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:20 pm

Female or feminine TFs... How about a cross gendered version of Ultra Magnus... Ultra Mingus... I'm so going to hell for this.

by **Siren Prime** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:28 pm

That's a bit off topic...

by **Boom.stick** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:40 pm

All in all what I think is that if they don't get all mushy with Arcee in the story line.... then I'm all for it. They have other points of the story that would be far more important to develop.

by **2SciCrazed** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:39 am

Ok, I'm going to set forth a theory which mixes several different universes together - and a little bit of 'Terminator 2' as well.

Lets assume the writers want to include femmes into the second movie. Now how to use them to keep the species from becoming extinct? After all, there has to be some reason for the femmes obvious existance and differences - right. And this would also attract the female audience even more. Perhaps have the few remaining femmes become the focus of the power struggle between the mechs? Could make it interesting.

But now we get into the question of reproduction. Sticky subject to be sure, but there are examples within published TF history. Why not use the budding method seen in certain TF comics? This could be accomplished by utilizing the same special effects we saw in Terminator 2 with the 'liquid metal'.

Ok, now we've got the method of 'birthing', but now we've got to explain the different sexes. Since standard 'budding' is normally asexual. But we can take a lesson from microbiology. Where bacteria link their cell membranes briefly and exchange genetic material. Then when each one subsequently divides, the daughter cells are genetically a combination of the parent cells.

But how to do this with TFs? This brings us to the concept of Sparks. Perhaps a simple USB cable plugging into a port and the glow of electricity flowing from mech to femme? It wouldn't be X-rated by any means, but would show that the mech 'gave' the femme a piece of his spark. Then when she 'buds' - the resulting protoform (again picture the female Terminator without her 'skin' covering. Looks a lot like the TF comic presentation of a protoform), has a combined spark - half her, half the mech sire.

Yes, by using TF history and a little Terminator thrown in. I think it can be done to the satisfaction of most fans. And just think about the violence of Decepticons kidnapping Autobot femmes and the resulting battles as the Autobots seek to recover them... Oh, and the hysterical humor of Ironhide trying to deal with a femme his size!

by **nealo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:17 pm

i was also a bit confused at the male/female ratio in the tf world, if i remmebr well prime created her so that means there is NO female transformers in the g1 universe. the only other one i can think of is Wreck-Gar's wife/gf/mistress

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:43 pm

nealo wrote:i was also a bit confused at the male/female ratio in the tf world, if i remmebr well prime created her

You dont remember well.

Optimus Prime did "NOT" create any female transformers in G1.

nealo wrote: so that means there is NO female transformers in the g1 universe.

By what logic do you reach that conclusion???

There were at least 8 different Female Transformers that were named in the G1 toon and about 5 more that were never named.

Here's a pic of a few of them

nealo wrote:the only other one i can think of is Wreck-Gar's wife/gf/mistress

Besides Wreck-Gars wife "Nancy" there were a few female Autobots in the G1 toon.

Theres Elita One who was once "Ariel" and is Prime girlfriend and theres Chromia, Firestar, Moonracer, Paradon-medic ,Beta and Arcee.

And if you follow the Japanese follow up G1 serries you have Minerva.

And as I said above Prime did not create any of them.

by **nealo** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:49 pm

my bad, im more confused now. no female decepticons? and why wasnt primes wife at his deathbed??

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:20 pm

nealo wrote: and why wasnt primes wife at his deathbed??

Who knows.....she could have been killed when the Decepticons over ran Cybertron,she could have been involved in an other battle.

There are many reasons for why she wasnt there.

by **Nickolai** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:53 am

Why isn't Wreck-Gar's wife named 'Alice' or 'Lucy', or, hell, even 'Mrs. Huxtable'? If she has an Earth name and they do nothing but watch TV, it would, well, ONLY MAKE SENSE. On what old show was the wife named Nancy anyway? :???:

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:05 pm

Nickolai wrote:Why isn't Wreck-Gar's wife named 'Alice' or 'Lucy', or, hell, even 'Mrs. Huxtable'? If she has an Earth name and they do nothing but watch TV, it would, well, ONLY MAKE SENSE. On what old show was the wife named Nancy anyway?

I dont know for sure isshe was ever really named "Nacy" in the episode.

I think I read somewhere that it was from the script or something else.

by **2SciCrazed** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:12 am

There are some Decepticon femmes, but you have to go to the Beast Wars universe to find any. I've noticed since I purchased that entire series, that there were a lot more femmes put in as compared to G1 and Armada.

Perhaps the creators got tired of the 'Smurf' comparisons? And the fact that fanfict writers have had to make most of their smut stories relating to homosexual relationships because of the lack of canon femmes to work with?

I'm not into the Animated series - any femmes there?