What on Earth are you talking about?! You've already seen this in English. This just G1 season 1-3 dubbed into Japanese. You don't need to have these dubbed into English since they already are!Rated X wrote:I just cant watch them like this. (without English voices) I have a copy of every series and they just seem so boring with sub-titles over non-charismatic Japanese dialogue. I wish there was a big enough market to justify english voice overs to the Japanese series.
This is such a lie. In the U.S., the Transformers franchise DIED after 1990. It stayed dead for two long years, not returning to life until 1993 with Generation 2.Rated X wrote:It was us "westerners" who kept the Transformers legacy alive for the last 25 years and made it what it is today.
There is just so much ignorance in all this it ain't funny.Rated X wrote:But in the Japanese defense, 20 year old cartoons dont bring in the big bucks that a CG animated series would. Sadly, the money just isnt there to pay voice actors, translators, technicians, and still turn a profit.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Fixed.Blurrz wrote:I'm sorry, but you're bloody ignorant in your assumptions with the Japanese language. There is individuality in each of their voices, you just have no idea simply because you can't understand the freaking language. We get it. You like to listen to your Transformers in English. No need to write a bible about how Ethnocentric and Xenophobic you are.
That was no fan dub. That was the official English language dub release in Malaysia. And it's so terrible that it's not best to judge by that version.Rated X wrote:The only one I could find with voices in English was “The Headmasters”. In this fan dubbed version they chose to call Blaster as “Billy” before his battle with Soundwave where they kill each other and are later rebuilt.
There were no Transformers toys sold in the U.S. during 1991-1992. That's two years during which the Transformers was DEAD in the U.S. Yet in Japan, the line never died.Rated X wrote:Even in the early 90’s at it lowest, there was always at least one line available in major retail toy stores. Can you say that about any other toy franchise?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Blurrz wrote:I'm sorry, but you're ignorant in your assumptions with the Japanese language. There is individuality in each of their voices, you just have no idea simply because you can't understand the language or know what they're saying. For example, Blurr doesn't speak fast, rather he repeats what he's saying. We get it. You like to listen to your Transformers in English. No need to write a bible about how pro-American you are. Your stance on this stuff has been the same for a very long time, so honestly. what's the point in you taking a dump on this stuff everytime a news story shows up?
And the America, America, America stuff? Get your facts straight before you start tooting your horn. Beast Wars? Oh yeah, developed and made completely in Canada, and aired in Canada first. Beast Machines.. oh sweet, also developed by Canadian company Mainframe Entertainment. Oh.. whoops Robots In Disguise, that was actually taken from JAPAN, after Japan spent a good 2-3 years with their expanded (and awesome) Beast Wars Neo series.
Armada? Oh, **** that was a joint venture between Japan and America. Energon cartoon = Japan. Transformers Cybertron.... oh yeah, again.. Japan.
America hasn't carried Transformers for the past 25 years. It's been a joint venture, and at many times, in fact up until about 6 years ago, it was all Japan, and America just went along with what they were dishing out back there.
Rated X wrote:
Have you ever been to Japan or even Asia for that matter ???
I have been to Asia. I stayed in the Philippines for 2 weeks. To get there, I had to transfer through Hong Kong Airport. And returning home, I was bumped to a flight that landed in Tokyo, Japan. I spent 2 hours in Japan being processed through Japanese customs before being able to board my flight back to the states. During this time I heard constant conversation around me and towards me when my passport was processed. So I can testify first hand that Japanese people speaking in normal conversation sounds just like the voice actors in Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, etc.
Professor Smooth wrote:Rated X wrote:
Have you ever been to Japan or even Asia for that matter ???
I have been to Asia. I stayed in the Philippines for 2 weeks. To get there, I had to transfer through Hong Kong Airport. And returning home, I was bumped to a flight that landed in Tokyo, Japan. I spent 2 hours in Japan being processed through Japanese customs before being able to board my flight back to the states. During this time I heard constant conversation around me and towards me when my passport was processed. So I can testify first hand that Japanese people speaking in normal conversation sounds just like the voice actors in Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, etc.
Oh. Two hours in Tokyo. I guess that makes you an expert, doesn't it? Able to label talented Japanese voice actors as "uncharismatic."
Look, I like the Western/Hasbro stuff as much as the next guy. The Marvel G1/G2 stuff. Beast Wars. The movies. All fun parts of the hobby. But in your first post, you seemed to completely discredit the (significant) contributions to the franchise that came from over here.
Rated X wrote:I didnt even need two hours. All I needed was 10 minutes to tell that the Japanese were very calm, conservative, softspoken people.
If Transformers did less successful in Japan, then how come the Japanese got so much more TF media than the West for such a long time? Our G1 cartoons died, while theirs thrived and multiplied in success. We killed the G1 toyline with Action Masters, while Japan ignored our mistakes and created better innovations like the Powered Masters, the Battlestars, and the Micromaster Six-combiners.Rated X wrote:Needless to say I find you labeling me as “Pro American” a little offensive. I was just stating the facts about the Franchise success compared to other franchises that withered away.
G1 Blurr does repeat himself a lot, but he does it at a quick pace so he indeed talks quick. Similar to a rap verse by Twista.
As far as Beast wars being from Canada, isn’t Canada part of North America AKA the “western hemisphere ???
The Unicron trilogy may have been a joint venture, but pound for pound who was pushing the big bucks into the toy line ??? Hasbro or Takara ??? I would say Hasbro my friend.
That. Is. ABSURD! Ten minutes? Really?Rated X wrote:I didnt even need two hours. All I needed was 10 minutes to tell that the Japanese were very calm, conservative, softspoken people.
They do! Look at this scene from the G1 movie in Japanese. Listen to all the added emotion and passion put into it as Convoy (Optimus) just mauls through the Destrons (Decepticons) to get to Megatron. You can't tell me you get this same level of feeling from this scene in the English version.Rated X wrote:But in my opinion when you are doing voices for giant robots shooting and smashing each other, you gotta get a little more hyped up.
See above list.Rated X wrote:And I would never discredit the Japanese in the Transformer world. They made the toys which came FIRST to inspire the cartoon series. My first figure was a Diaclone back in early 1984. But I think the American contributation to the franchise was definitally through media.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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