Blurrz wrote:Botcon Movie Figures. Holla back at me.
Blurrz wrote:Botcon Movie Figures. Holla back at me.
starfish wrote:Blurrz wrote:Botcon Movie Figures. Holla back at me.
Hmm, so Hasbro owns the physical moulds eh? But didn't we know that already? But things like character design copyrights, and the rights to distribute toys cast from those moulds have always been questioned by fans, and Habro's response today doesn't clarify anything.
stocky wrote:starfish wrote:Blurrz wrote:Botcon Movie Figures. Holla back at me.
Hmm, so Hasbro owns the physical moulds eh? But didn't we know that already? But things like character design copyrights, and the rights to distribute toys cast from those moulds have always been questioned by fans, and Habro's response today doesn't clarify anything.
I'm pretty sure this is what Hasbro has stated before... [snip] However the likelihood of us seeing repaints of Bludgeon and Brawn are high, because these are not movie molds -- they were simply released in the movie line of figures, because, well, that is the line Hasbro is currently selling.
Convotron wrote:I like how Hasbro acknowledges a "movie madness" period rather than say something more formal like they're "focusing their efforts on the movie product line". It's the same meaning but the attitude that I perceive through the language used makes all the difference to me.
Seibertron wrote:We will continue to find these opportunities (like we did with Soundwave at Comic Con in 2009... hint hint)
Seibertron wrote:We will continue to bring Masterpiece toys as retailer exclusives where appropriate - there will be one in 2010.
Seibertron wrote:And as discussed at BotCon, we will be continuing the "Classics/Universe" toys in the back half of 2010 with a new name (it won't be called Universe 3.0, but that's the idea).
starfish wrote:Blurrz wrote:Botcon Movie Figures. Holla back at me.
Hmm, so Hasbro owns the physical moulds eh? But didn't we know that already? But things like character design copyrights, and the rights to distribute toys cast from those moulds have always been questioned by fans, and Habro's response today doesn't clarify anything.
starfish wrote:stocky wrote:starfish wrote:Blurrz wrote:Botcon Movie Figures. Holla back at me.
Hmm, so Hasbro owns the physical moulds eh? But didn't we know that already? But things like character design copyrights, and the rights to distribute toys cast from those moulds have always been questioned by fans, and Habro's response today doesn't clarify anything.
I'm pretty sure this is what Hasbro has stated before... [snip] However the likelihood of us seeing repaints of Bludgeon and Brawn are high, because these are not movie molds -- they were simply released in the movie line of figures, because, well, that is the line Hasbro is currently selling.
Agreed in principle.
But a number of the non-movie movie toys (such as Springer, Ransack, Breakaway etc) are based on unused designs originating from the production of the movie. More still are based on characters introduced in the computer games.
How do we know which of the new-moulds are true Hasbro originals? Other than Lockdown, Bludgeon and the Real Gear scouts from the first movie, we really can't be sure.
Seibertron wrote:It was a poorly worded question which allowed Hasbro too much wiggle-room.
amtm wrote:Seibertron wrote:It was a poorly worded question which allowed Hasbro too much wiggle-room.
What you need to do is figure out exactly what you're trying to ask them. If you want to know who owns the physical molds, say "Who owns the physical molds?" If you want to know who owns the character designs, say "Who owns the character designs?" Etc.
From what I see in what's posted, the problem is there are actually several questions that are being crammed into one. Be specific, and you'll get specific responses. Ask one question at a time, let them respond one at a time, and their responses will help you determine where to go next in the interview.
Kibble wrote:I don't understand the confusion...this sounds pretty straight forward to me:
"Hasbro owns all of our molds and can determine what we want to do with those molds."
Seibertron wrote:Kibble wrote:I don't understand the confusion...this sounds pretty straight forward to me:
"Hasbro owns all of our molds and can determine what we want to do with those molds."
The question should've been ...
"If Hasbro uses a mold from the movie toy lines in a future product line such as a Botcon exclusive or a line similar to Classics 2.0, does Hasbro have to share the royalties from that figure with Paramount?"
To which I think most of us know the answer ... yes, Hasbro would have to share the royalties which is why we haven't seen one single movie toy used outside of the movie toyline.
starfish wrote:Seibertron wrote:Kibble wrote:I don't understand the confusion...this sounds pretty straight forward to me:
"Hasbro owns all of our molds and can determine what we want to do with those molds."
The question should've been ...
"If Hasbro uses a mold from the movie toy lines in a future product line such as a Botcon exclusive or a line similar to Classics 2.0, does Hasbro have to share the royalties from that figure with Paramount?"
To which I think most of us know the answer ... yes, Hasbro would have to share the royalties which is why we haven't seen one single movie toy used outside of the movie toyline.
So you don't think there's any chance of the Disney Mickey Mouse Transformer being repainted into a Classics Rattrap then? Copyright law can be a total ass sometimes.
Seibertron wrote:starfish wrote:Seibertron wrote:Kibble wrote:I don't understand the confusion...this sounds pretty straight forward to me:
"Hasbro owns all of our molds and can determine what we want to do with those molds."
The question should've been ...
"If Hasbro uses a mold from the movie toy lines in a future product line such as a Botcon exclusive or a line similar to Classics 2.0, does Hasbro have to share the royalties from that figure with Paramount?"
To which I think most of us know the answer ... yes, Hasbro would have to share the royalties which is why we haven't seen one single movie toy used outside of the movie toyline.
So you don't think there's any chance of the Disney Mickey Mouse Transformer being repainted into a Classics Rattrap then? Copyright law can be a total ass sometimes.
I get that you're being humorous, but I'm not sure how it relates to my above post.
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