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-Kanrabat- wrote:

shajaki wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:But when the reissue is nearly 200$ When you can get a PERFECT condition and COMPLETE vintage for less than 100$, the question still stand.

Ehhhhhhh.... you and I may have different definitions of "perfect". To me, there's NO way to recapture the feeling of opening your own brand new TF. Which is why I'm only going to buy vintage G1's when I absolutely have to. Cause even though I bought it, its not mine y'know?

JMO

So... You'll only buy an original vintage G1 Transformer only if it's SEALED IN PACKAGE so you can have the pleasure to OPEN it?

Yes actually. Possible not sealed boxes, but y'know how some G1's were sealed on a bubble inside the box? At least that. Expensive and crazy, I'm fully aware.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

shajaki wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:But when the reissue is nearly 200$ When you can get a PERFECT condition and COMPLETE vintage for less than 100$, the question still stand.

Ehhhhhhh.... you and I may have different definitions of "perfect". To me, there's NO way to recapture the feeling of opening your own brand new TF. Which is why I'm only going to buy vintage G1's when I absolutely have to. Cause even though I bought it, its not mine y'know?

JMO

So... You'll only buy an original vintage G1 Transformer only if it's SEALED IN PACKAGE so you can have the pleasure to OPEN it?

Mmm... There's just the sneaking suspicion, especially with vintage figures, that they could have been messed with in ways I don't even know. I hate uncertainty, and reissues are an alternative. They're newer off the production line, and will last way longer than vintage figures in most cases. Plus, they're new and shiny. You don't have to like them, but you don't see the appeal in that?

megatronus wrote:Mmm... There's just the sneaking suspicion, especially with vintage figures, that they could have been messed with in ways I don't even know. I hate uncertainty, and reissues are an alternative. They're newer off the production line, and will last way longer than vintage figures in most cases. Plus, they're new and shiny. You don't have to like them, but you don't see the appeal in that?

Appart the toy itself, what I'm looking for is for it to be affordable. PRICE is an issue. That why most of my G1 toys ARE reissues. Still, some reissues are baffingly expensive while the original is readily available for less. In that case, I will go vintage. Why spend DOUBLE for a reissue when you can have the real original in perfect condition for half the price? Is that so hard to understand? Still, it's rare. More often, it's the reissue that is affordable and the vintage is just out of reach. Other times, a reissue sealed in box will be the same price as a complete but very used vintage. In that case, I get the reissue.

TlDr, the point is, it's not whennever it's a reissue or a vintage that matter. It's the quality and/or price of the toy that matter the most.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

megatronus wrote:Mmm... There's just the sneaking suspicion, especially with vintage figures, that they could have been messed with in ways I don't even know. I hate uncertainty, and reissues are an alternative. They're newer off the production line, and will last way longer than vintage figures in most cases. Plus, they're new and shiny. You don't have to like them, but you don't see the appeal in that?

Appart the toy itself, what I'm looking for is for it to be affordable. PRICE is an issue. That why most of my G1 toys ARE reissues. Still, some reissues are baffingly expensive while the original is readily available for less. In that case, I will go vintage. Why spend DOUBLE for a reissue when you can have the real original in perfect condition for half the price? Is that so hard to understand? Still, it's rare. More often, it's the reissue that is affordable and the vintage is just out of reach. Other times, a reissue sealed in box will be the same price as a complete but very used vintage. In that case, I get the reissue.

TlDr, the point is, it's not whennever it's a reissue or a vintage that matter. It's the quality and/or price of the toy that matter the most.

Vintage.....double edge sword. If in good condition fine. But age has this nasty habit of breaking them. Re-issues, like the Encore 20/20A has improvements to the mold (and decals) while Bruticus and Piranacon on the otherhand sucked (the latter especially due to mold degradation). So shop wisely.

fenrir72 wrote:Vintage.....double edge sword. If in good condition fine. But age has this nasty habit of breaking them. Re-issues, like the Encore 20/20A has improvements to the mold (and decals) while Bruticus and Piranacon on the otherhand sucked (the latter especially due to mold degradation). So shop wisely.

Yeah, I think the important thing is to look at feedback and reviews for reissues.

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Vintage.....double edge sword. If in good condition fine. But age has this nasty habit of breaking them. Re-issues, like the Encore 20/20A has improvements to the mold (and decals) while Bruticus and Piranacon on the otherhand sucked (the latter especially due to mold degradation). So shop wisely.

Yeah, I think the important thing is to look at feedback and reviews for reissues.

And sometimes the reissue ia WAY superior.

Like the black and white Astrotrain from Commemorative, or Predaking from Platinum with his glorious gold aps instead of plain yellows.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Vintage.....double edge sword. If in good condition fine. But age has this nasty habit of breaking them. Re-issues, like the Encore 20/20A has improvements to the mold (and decals) while Bruticus and Piranacon on the otherhand sucked (the latter especially due to mold degradation). So shop wisely.

Yeah, I think the important thing is to look at feedback and reviews for reissues.

And sometimes the reissue ia WAY superior.

Like the black and white Astrotrain from Commemorative, or Predaking from Platinum with his glorious gold aps instead of plain yellows.

Not to mention, the entire Encore line! Those guys have actual tampo's on in place of some stickers. So sad that line is dead

shajaki wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Vintage.....double edge sword. If in good condition fine. But age has this nasty habit of breaking them. Re-issues, like the Encore 20/20A has improvements to the mold (and decals) while Bruticus and Piranacon on the otherhand sucked (the latter especially due to mold degradation). So shop wisely.

Yeah, I think the important thing is to look at feedback and reviews for reissues.

And sometimes the reissue ia WAY superior.

Like the black and white Astrotrain from Commemorative, or Predaking from Platinum with his glorious gold aps instead of plain yellows.

Not to mention, the entire Encore line! Those guys have actual tampo's on in place of some stickers. So sad that line is dead

They released Fortmax. Why not Scorponok? It's been like 3 years now

Way back, before I had to curtail my Transformers spending, I bought a lot of reissues and would display them with my vintage. They do look the part, but in terms of quality - I've never had a reissue beat the original when in excellent condition.

That said - getting vintage in that condition is rare and often very expensive, especially boxed. Its a literal minefield of K.Os (sometimes just the guns are knocked off), reissued parts on vintage toys and mismatched production runs (like - that Prime didn't come with those style fists or gun).

Stickers are always my biggest beef with reissues. Always peeling off or (like with Hotrod) being too thick. Tampographs and printed details are the devils work, too.

Reissues take the stress out of most vintage collecting away, but often give new troubles. Early reviews might not pick them up, either - its good to wait for side-by-side vintage and reissue comparisons.

I still buy the odd reissue, if its crazy enough or has new accessories. It doesn't beat the buzz of vintage. I like vintage because it is old and there are small signs of play-wear. It really adds to the experience. I also love seeing a toy I'm not 100% familiar with and having to research it to make sure its not a bootleg or later release stuffed in an old box.

I'm actually really loving the platinum line of reissues, even as a bystander. Its been a good selection of figures, even if I've only wanted Astrotrain and Blitzwing so far - the others are all excellent news for G1 collectors.

Platinum Ed. Coneheads and Blaster/Perceptor set out in retail in TRU here in Manila, though... =)

Coneheads are 3.5k Phil pesos while Blaster/Perceptor set is 7.5k Php

Our fellow Seibertron.com user Generator_G1 has sent a sighting for the new Platinum Edition sets, reissuing the Coneheads and Blaster/Perceptor for new and old collectors who did not get their mitts on them way back when! The Toys'R'Us store in over in Manila, and as seen in the photos below, Coneheads are 3.5k Philippine pesos (approx 78 USD) while the Blaster/Perceptor set is 7.5k Php (approx 166 USD).

Check out a video review of the Conehead seekers here, and out first reporting on in-hand images of the Intel Ops box right here - and remember, if you spot these or other figures at retail, make sure to use our Sightings database and forum sections to help out fellow collectors!

Does anyone know if the insecticons have been spotted? They have them in my Toysrus in Canada. Just a tip, if you're not finding large items like that, check the electronics section. Sometimes they put expensive collectables there.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Does anyone know if the insecticons have been spotted? They have them in my Toysrus in Canada. Just a tip, if you're not finding large items like that, check the electronics section. Sometimes they put expensive collectables there.

I don't remember where they were spotted first, but it was a while ago in an American Target or a TRU in the Philippines.

I think it was a Kmart...

Agamemnon wrote:I think it was a Kmart...

Yeah it was KMart.

If you live in Clemmons, NC, the K-Mart there has like 10 of the Insecticon sets for $79.99 each. No one has even touched them.

crazyfist wrote:If you live in Clemmons, NC, the K-Mart there has like 10 of the Insecticon sets for $79.99 each. No one has even touched them.

Haha, same for the ones in the Toysrus at Laval Canada. But here, they cost 109$ cdn, which is about 10$US more than what Kmart sells them for.

You know what kind of disgusts me, the actual MSRP is 64.99$US. It's right there in black and white, I wonder why it isnt being repsected:

http://www.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-platinum-edition-insecticons-figure-3-pack:E148CBC7-5056-9047-F5ED-523BDBF44DF0

william-james88 wrote:You know what kind of disgusts me, the actual MSRP is 64.99$US. It's right there in black and white, I wonder why it isnt being repsected:

http://www.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-platinum-edition-insecticons-figure-3-pack:E148CBC7-5056-9047-F5ED-523BDBF44DF0

Because Kmart and TRU are run by greedy bastards. But hey, at least you guys found them and maybe have a shot at getting them on sale or clearance some day, the two Kmarts near me stopped carrying Transformers after TF4.

Emerje

We've seen the Hasbro Platinum Edition Intel Ops set, with Perceptor and Blaster, show up at Philippine retail just recently, and we now have some official stock photography courtesy of Brazilian retailer HobbyBrinquedos. Check them out in package, out of package, with Ramhorn, Eject and Steeljawk - all mirrored below! And perhaps take a stroll down memory lane with our own galleries of the original toys, here and here.

Nice! But that set will be 200$ for sure. I'm not really interested in Perseptor and I always wanted Blaster. Maybe when this set will come out, this will drive the price of the latest reissue and the vintage down a bit.

The Autobot characters translate to:
TRANSFORMIUM SHELL: SECRET EXPERIMENTAL BLEND CYBERTRONIAN PRO GROWTH CELL: CREATES SELF HEALING METAL
FUSION REACTOR: LIMITLESS ENERGY SUPPLY CNA: SPLICED FROM THE SPARK OF GALVATRON
NANOBOTS: FOR INTERNAL SYSTEM REPAIRS DEPLOYMENT: DESTROY THE AUTOBOTS FROM WITHIN

Va'al wrote:We've seen the Hasbro Platinum Edition Intel Ops set, with Perceptor and Blaster, show up at Philippine retail just recently, and we now have some official stock photography courtesy of Brazilian retailer HobbyBrinquedos. Check them out in package, out of package, with Ramhorn, Eject and Steeljawk - all mirrored below! And perhaps take a stroll down memory lane with our own galleries of the original toys, here and here.

A pretty neat collection! All that in one box

So instead of getting rewind, perceptor gets a box of crap ? I dont see anyone buying this. Why is hasbro re-re-re-issuing stuff that was just re-issued maybe 2-3 years ago ? Seems like just yesterday I bought perceptor and the insecticons 3 pack at TRU for about 50 bucks a pop. Im not sure why anyone would want to pay double the price for a bigger box...

And big ups to Va'al for the debut of "Steeljawk"....you rock !

Va'al wrote:We've seen the Hasbro Platinum Edition Intel Ops set, with Perceptor and Blaster, show up at Philippine retail just recently, and we now have some official stock photography courtesy of Brazilian retailer HobbyBrinquedos. Check them out in package, out of package, with Ramhorn, Eject and Steeljawk - all mirrored below! And perhaps take a stroll down memory lane with our own galleries of the original toys, here and here.

What are those red things in the lower middle of the package? I don't recall Blaster nor Perceptor having those things.

Are the cassettes the same size as masterpiece jaguar and rumble? If so, then I may get this set just for that!

Does anybody know?