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This is perfect. I saw nice digbashes of this, but this looks even better than I though it would. The battle master is just there, so whatever. My only concern is what buissienss does it have in the shattered glass line?

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:My only concern is what buissienss does it have in the shattered glass line?

Double coverage. It gives G1 Collectors a character that's infrequently physically represented, and Shattered Glass Collectors a character that hasn't been in Shattered Glass before.

The more people it appeals to, the more people will buy it. The more people that butyit, the more justification there is to continue a line of semi-obscure characters.

Yeah, the lack of a significantly different Deco compared to the G1 iteration might be a little disappointing, but if getting a SG Flamewar means I can get a SG Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack, Soundwave, and Blaster, that's fine with me.

And besides, Flamewar isn't the only SG character with a nearly unchanged Deco compared to the original. Jazz is the same.

Gearslide wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:My only concern is what buissienss does it have in the shattered glass line?

Double coverage. It gives G1 Collectors a character that's infrequently physically represented, and Shattered Glass Collectors a character that hasn't been in Shattered Glass before.

The more people it appeals to, the more people will buy it. The more people that butyit, the more justification there is to continue a line of semi-obscure characters.

Yeah, the lack of a significantly different Deco compared to the G1 iteration might be a little disappointing, but if getting a SG Flamewar means I can get a SG Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack, Soundwave, and Blaster, that's fine with me.

And besides, Flamewar isn't the only SG character with a nearly unchanged Deco compared to the original. Jazz is the same.

Yes, but Jazz is based off a weird toy.

Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

Shattered glass Burnout, or Skids? (Not sure anyone cares for shattered glass burnout)

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

Shattered glass Burnout, or Skids? (Not sure anyone cares for shattered glass burnout)

Skids

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

No surprise there. The original SG Skids was just a repurposing of the Burn Out toy. Only difference is this one has a Crosscut head.

Sabrblade wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

Shattered glass Burnout, or Skids? (Not sure anyone cares for shattered glass burnout)

Skids

Good, that makes a lot more sense than SG Burnout!

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

Yes, all these lines are becoming just ways to release product to fans, which is what they have always been about. It's really not rocket science. And since anything sold at retail has to be made with kids in mind, they opted to have burnout in the velocitron line while flamewar in the SG line to avoid having two motorcycles in the same line.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, over in the Velocitron line, Mark Maher said during the unveiling of Burn Out that that toy also doubles for SG.

Yes, all these lines are becoming just ways to release product to fans, which is what they have always been about. It's really not rocket science. And since anything sold at retail has to be made with kids in mind, they opted to have burnout in the velocitron line while flamewar in the SG line to avoid having two motorcycles in the same line.

Of all three cycles, I definetely prefer the Flamewar over Arcee over Road Rocket.

Yaaaaay, I completely expected this and it looks pretty much exactly how I thought it would.
I'm likewise as puzzled as everyone else as to why it's apparently the SG version!

Ah well, a paintjob or a toyhax sticker away to just being normal Flamewar, I'm still happily going to nab this as is and I appreciate the inclusion of a battlemaster for more fun.

SpaceEagle wrote:Yaaaaay, I completely expected this and it looks pretty much exactly how I thought it would.
I'm likewise as puzzled as everyone else as to why it's apparently the SG version!

Ah well, a paintjob or a toyhax sticker away to just being normal Flamewar, I'm still happily going to nab this as is and I appreciate the inclusion of a battlemaster for more fun.

It is a really neat looking figure! At first when I saw the battle master my mind painted it blue because it remembered Jackpot. Funny how that works.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Yaaaaay, I completely expected this and it looks pretty much exactly how I thought it would.
I'm likewise as puzzled as everyone else as to why it's apparently the SG version!

Ah well, a paintjob or a toyhax sticker away to just being normal Flamewar, I'm still happily going to nab this as is and I appreciate the inclusion of a battlemaster for more fun.

It is a really neat looking figure! At first when I saw the battle master my mind painted it blue because it remembered Jackpot. Funny how that works.

Mold reuse will do that to ya, heh. I do think using the gun mode Sights had in the Jackpot set will probably make a good substitute for Flamewar's bow, at least without it being as big as she is. (Maybe you can even peg on those included energon blades to make it seem even more mystical!)

SpaceEagle wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Yaaaaay, I completely expected this and it looks pretty much exactly how I thought it would.
I'm likewise as puzzled as everyone else as to why it's apparently the SG version!

Ah well, a paintjob or a toyhax sticker away to just being normal Flamewar, I'm still happily going to nab this as is and I appreciate the inclusion of a battlemaster for more fun.

It is a really neat looking figure! At first when I saw the battle master my mind painted it blue because it remembered Jackpot. Funny how that works.

Mold reuse will do that to ya, heh. I do think using the gun mode Sights had in the Jackpot set will probably make a good substitute for Flamewar's bow, at least without it being as big as she is. (Maybe you can even peg on those included energon blades to make it seem even more mystical!)

The bow? I forgot about that! I was wondering what the axe was supposed to represent...

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Yaaaaay, I completely expected this and it looks pretty much exactly how I thought it would.
I'm likewise as puzzled as everyone else as to why it's apparently the SG version!

Ah well, a paintjob or a toyhax sticker away to just being normal Flamewar, I'm still happily going to nab this as is and I appreciate the inclusion of a battlemaster for more fun.

It is a really neat looking figure! At first when I saw the battle master my mind painted it blue because it remembered Jackpot. Funny how that works.

Mold reuse will do that to ya, heh. I do think using the gun mode Sights had in the Jackpot set will probably make a good substitute for Flamewar's bow, at least without it being as big as she is. (Maybe you can even peg on those included energon blades to make it seem even more mystical!)

The bow? I forgot about that! I was wondering what the axe was supposed to represent...

Honestly comes off quite funny considering your weapon is listed as a crossbow, yet forgot about Flamewar's bow
Admittedly I rarely ever see anyone discuss Flamewar's figures so I cannot blame people forgetting what she even came with!

SpaceEagle wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Yaaaaay, I completely expected this and it looks pretty much exactly how I thought it would.
I'm likewise as puzzled as everyone else as to why it's apparently the SG version!

Ah well, a paintjob or a toyhax sticker away to just being normal Flamewar, I'm still happily going to nab this as is and I appreciate the inclusion of a battlemaster for more fun.

It is a really neat looking figure! At first when I saw the battle master my mind painted it blue because it remembered Jackpot. Funny how that works.

Mold reuse will do that to ya, heh. I do think using the gun mode Sights had in the Jackpot set will probably make a good substitute for Flamewar's bow, at least without it being as big as she is. (Maybe you can even peg on those included energon blades to make it seem even more mystical!)

The bow? I forgot about that! I was wondering what the axe was supposed to represent...

Honestly comes off quite funny considering your weapon is listed as a crossbow, yet forgot about Flamewar's bow
Admittedly I rarely ever see anyone discuss Flamewar's figures so I cannot blame people forgetting what she even came with!

I'm having a tough, day, worn out from earlier. (Check my latest posts if you really want to know but don't reply)

Hmmm...

With Fireglide in Weapon Mode, could you fold in the Axe Handle and have Flamewar hold them by the peg at the "Top" of the Axe and it could pass as a Bow or Crossbow? Or is there too much of a Clearance issue?

Gearslide wrote:Hmmm...

With Fireglide in Weapon Mode, could you fold in the Axe Handle and have Flamewar hold them by the peg at the "Top" of the Axe and it could pass as a Bow or Crossbow? Or is there too much of a Clearance issue?

That's what I thought too, but you'd have to swap the wings so the string is on the right side.

Flashwave wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Seems like a waste. Too similar to regular Flamewar. Did they just not have a slot for her so they figured SG could do double duty and be both regular and SG FW?

Well. I wouldn't have gotten it either way.

Most likely. That seems to be the MO for SG this wave. Slicer is doing the same thing and Ultra Magnus is pulling several homages out of his trailer

I know it's just toy releases and finding a place for them. I know that in my head. But in my heart it feels like we didn't get a proper SG toy out of this.

That said, the "proper" toy is likely Burn Out as SG Skids.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Gearslide wrote:Hmmm...

With Fireglide in Weapon Mode, could you fold in the Axe Handle and have Flamewar hold them by the peg at the "Top" of the Axe and it could pass as a Bow or Crossbow? Or is there too much of a Clearance issue?

That's what I thought too, but you'd have to swap the wings so the string is on the right side.

Ah, I meant with the Wings forming the bow in the "correct" positioning, hence the concern about clearance.

Although, this photo of Pteraxadon from TFwiki basically shows what I was going for:



(Specifically the Middle Photo on the left side.)

Fireglide's head would essentially be facing forward with Flamewar holding the peg under their neck. My concern is the shape and size of Flamewar's arm might not let it be held well.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Seems like a waste. Too similar to regular Flamewar. Did they just not have a slot for her so they figured SG could do double duty and be both regular and SG FW?

Well. I wouldn't have gotten it either way.

Most likely. That seems to be the MO for SG this wave. Slicer is doing the same thing and Ultra Magnus is pulling several homages out of his trailer

I know it's just toy releases and finding a place for them. I know that in my head. But in my heart it feels like we didn't get a proper SG toy out of this.

That said, the "proper" toy is likely Burn Out as SG Skids.

They have options. You can keep it as a Shattered Glass Flamewar, or you can add a decepticon logo and have regular flamewar. It is your choice, there is nothing wrong with that I think.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Seems like a waste. Too similar to regular Flamewar. Did they just not have a slot for her so they figured SG could do double duty and be both regular and SG FW?

Well. I wouldn't have gotten it either way.

Most likely. That seems to be the MO for SG this wave. Slicer is doing the same thing and Ultra Magnus is pulling several homages out of his trailer

I know it's just toy releases and finding a place for them. I know that in my head. But in my heart it feels like we didn't get a proper SG toy out of this.

That said, the "proper" toy is likely Burn Out as SG Skids.

They have options. You can keep it as a Shattered Glass Flamewar, or you can add a decepticon logo and have regular flamewar. It is your choice, there is nothing wrong with that I think.

Gearslide wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Gearslide wrote:Hmmm...

With Fireglide in Weapon Mode, could you fold in the Axe Handle and have Flamewar hold them by the peg at the "Top" of the Axe and it could pass as a Bow or Crossbow? Or is there too much of a Clearance issue?

That's what I thought too, but you'd have to swap the wings so the string is on the right side.

Ah, I meant with the Wings forming the bow in the "correct" positioning, hence the concern about clearance.

Although, this photo of Pteraxadon from TFwiki basically shows what I was going for:



(Specifically the Middle Photo on the left side.)

Fireglide's head would essentially be facing forward with Flamewar holding the peg under their neck. My concern is the shape and size of Flamewar's arm might not let it be held well.

I see, that looks much better than my way. Yes the bow would be ridiculous large, but oh well, it will probably be close enough.

This is unexpected and unprecedented, but who cares, it's Flamewar and I'm getting it. She looks great, and the inclusion of the Battlemaster will help keep her weapon loadout unique from Arcee and Road Rocket.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Yes the bow would be ridiculous large, but oh well, it will probably be close enough.

To be fair, every bow Flamewar has ever come with has been ridiculously large.

Flamewar in Shattered Glass? Fine. The on her? Not so much. Better had it left blank.