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I have to be honest, watching that video made me want it less because of the sheer amount of work it takes to transform it. But I'm not a hardcore TF fan, won't ever claim to be. The cost, the wait, and really just because it's a character that I'm not really in to, I'm passing.

Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Now, if they can just include that rotating turntable as well so we don't have to keep taking trips walking around this figure to transform it from all sides.

we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing for an expensive product. $1000 plus if shiped to europe

and here is a decent G1 music better than the crap they have, is 8 times longer than 30 seconds
https://youtu.be/SpY4na_ofxs

BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing

we really don't

Rainmaker wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing

we really don't

Seconded.

Burn wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing

we really don't

Seconded.

Thirded.

Also, I am impressed at the fact that there's barely any parts forming. I knew there had to be some, but I did not expect it to be so minimal.

Sabrblade wrote:Now, if they can just include that rotating turntable as well so we don't have to keep taking trips walking around this figure to transform it from all sides.

Hey, with as long as it takes to transform him, and with as many times as you have to walk around him, they are just trying to save you a gym membership

I love some of the Twitter and Facebook comments where people are all like "it's too complex" or "now I see the price more, but it needs a warranty for how complex it is"

What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow

People are just looking for reasons to justify why they don't want him.

Or they're just lame and nitpick over the tiniest of things, take your pick.

Burn wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow

People are just looking for reasons to justify why they don't want him.

That's been the case since day 1 and I have grown tired of it. August 31 can't happen quick enough so that we can move on from this thing and the people that don't want him (or don't want to want him) can just move onto something else.

At TFcon DC 2017, the design style of one of the third-party manufacturers was described as "explode into a million pieces chained together". That's kinda what I'm seeing in the transformation video, what with the four planet-quadrants that hang off the legs during an intermediate stage, and the entire forward midline and maw as a backpack.

The radii of the planet- and robot-mode curves are different, and the obvious solution is shellforming, but I'm disappointed that it's all via hinges and floppy swing-bars instead of sliding joints. Actually, I'm more disappointed that they didn't devise an eversion technique -- that is, the body parts turn inside-out, to reduce kibble and increase density. (Something like MP-48 Lio Convoy, whose lion head and mane swap between "organic" and "sculptural".)

Consider those flexible spike-studded equator strips, described above as "flypaper". Why not roll them onto the shoulders, where the Flory Dery model has spikes at the base of each wing? Or at worst, stuff them inside the torso? (Maybe the torso volume is reserved for light-and-sound gimmicks.)

Now I'm curious to see if one of the third-party makers comes up with a version at the (currently popular) Legends scale. "There's this tiny weird-lookin' planet shovin' up the suburbs of Cybertron." "Jazz, you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope."

Personally, I'm in a weird place with Unicron. Like, I don't want him (exclusively because of the price and space) but I understand why others do. But, I also for some reason really wish he was smaller, just so Fort Max could still have the tallest toy because that was what his toy was known for. It's such a weird nitpicky reason that I have no reason to have because I grew up with Animated and the movies, so I obviously never had the original Fort Max and thus don't have the nostalgia for owning the tallest Transformers toy ever. But every time I see a new update on Unicron I have the same feeling I get with 3rd Party figures with the "That looks awesome! Too bad I'll never be able to afford it"

1) It’s too complex.

2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.

1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

Wow, writing a product off because of the backing music in ONE of it's advertising videos.

Only problem is, Bakugan have been doing balls to robots for years now. Unicron should have been able to roll along the floor for a quick change and slightly leap in the air like the battle chargers (also come with a disclaimer about crushed pets or kids if the action feature is used improperly).

1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

I hear there's a mute button on the figure so it doesn't play the music while you're transforming it.

And watching the video I have to laugh a little at the people that originally insisted this Unicron wasn't any more complex than the Armada version.

Now I want to see a video of Unicron being transformed back into planet mode and see how much time it takes to get all the panels aligned.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

I hear there's a mute button on the figure so it doesn't play the music while you're transforming it.

And watching the video I have to laugh a little at the people that originally insisted this Unicron wasn't any more complex than the Armada version.

Now I want to see a video of Unicron being transformed back into planet mode and see how much time it takes to get all the panels aligned.

Emerje

There was people who actually thought that?

So I know a must buy, and I know a pass but what is a must pass?

ZeroWolf wrote:So I know a must buy, and I know a pass but what is a must pass?

Whatever it is, it sounds to me like when little boys absolutely don't want their grandma or aunt to give them a kiss in front of their friends.

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

If we double the size, we won't have to worry about the durability of hard spikes at that point. Problem solved!

unicron1200 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

If we double the size, we won't have to worry about the durability of hard spikes at that point. Problem solved!

Well, if you're willing to fork over $1200 for a 54-inch-tall Unicron, then good on you.

I would love to see Cybertron Primus parked right in front of him I bet it looks perfect.

And that song just makes me want it more.

Xylophones and Unicron like chocolate in my peanut butter, so good.

Stargrave wrote:I would love to see Cybertron Primus parked right in front of him I bet it looks perfect.

Going by the movie, Cybertron ought to be bigger than Unicron. Much bigger.

Yeah I was completely wrong.