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Stargrave wrote:Yeah I was completely wrong.

It's that darn shot of him eating Lithone from earlier in the movie that always throws people off.

Without knowing it's not Cybertron, the movie literally opens with a scene that makes it look like Cybertron gets eaten first thing, then we have to sit through the LONG theme song title sequence before we get Victor Caroli's narration showing us that Cybertron's A-OK and what we saw before was not what we thought it was.

Seen it more than any other movie and still did that exact thing. Ah well.

blackeyedprime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.

A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.

Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.

They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.

Meh, if it was Bandai they'd be die cast metal spikes (& $2000) and they would go somewhere.

You talkin' Bandai of America or Bandai of Japan? Cuz Hasbro had to go through American toy safety regulations.

1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.

2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...

And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.

2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...

And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.

His comments make me feel bad for being a detractor.

Ironhidensh wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.

2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.

Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...

And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.

His comments make me feel bad for being a detractor.

Congratulations, I get to lump you in with 1984forever.

I hope you feel bad now.

Am I the only one who thinks that the transformation doesn't look too bad?

The transformation looks phenomenal. The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out. The vast majority of the scene was just random parts moving and general hand-waving. This is a masterwork of engineering.

Radioactivepanda wrote:The transformation looks phenomenal. The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out. The vast majority of the scene was just random parts moving and general hand-waving. This is a masterwork of engineering.

Agreed with this. The transformation is what it needs to be, and it looks fantastic

Hasbro has just posted a video where the brand team answers questions that were asked regarding their big Unicron. As of right now there are 2,945 backers through pulse but this does not include orders from other channels yet. 8,000 orders are needed for this toy to be produced. Here is a breakdown of what we learn, of course please watch the video to see exactly what was said.

There is currently no intention on extending the deadline.

There are no lights and sounds, conversion was the most important part.

While what we have seen so far is a prototype, it is the best representation of the colour the final toy will have.

The project started over a year and a half ago.

He has six joints in each of the hands with a total of 50 articulation points.

The bot alone is 19 pounds.

He has both 5mm and 3mm ports for integration with the Siege line (and anything else that fits those measures).

You can watch the video here.

Radioactivepanda wrote:The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out.

More than you think actually: the legs sliding out was also shown and, albeit minor and just an assumption, the shoulder shifting into position too. The rest was just filler.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Radioactivepanda wrote:The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out.

More than you think actually: the legs sliding out was also shown and, albeit minor and just an assumption, the shoulder shifting into position too. The rest was just filler.

Like when they transform autobot city? Man whenever I watch that, it seems to go on for hours.

8,000 is not just the target but the minimal required to start production. It doesn't seem like we will be getting this. It will be a sad sad day next Saturday when this backed project fails to meet the quota.

joevill wrote:8,000 is not just the target but the minimal required to start production. It doesn't seem like we will be getting this. It will be a sad sad day next Saturday when this backed project fails to meet the quota.

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, as said in the article, this is just based on the preorders from the Pulse site alone, and doesn't include all the other websites preorders that may be added in before the final date.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Radioactivepanda wrote:The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out.

More than you think actually: the legs sliding out was also shown and, albeit minor and just an assumption, the shoulder shifting into position too. The rest was just filler.

..Not really, no



0:42 Arms extend out, legs visible.

0:43 - 0:47 legs emerge

0:48 - 1:00 Forearms retract, hands emerge

1:01 - 1:11 Remaining lower torso planet kibble retracts to form crotch and reveal abs.

>Unseen< Head emerges here and rotates

1:11 - 1:14 - Upper torso kibble retracts towards the head.

^ This bit is important. Unicron is not thin, in the Movie. You could infer that with his head raised and legs extended, his body collapses down to fill that void. But not enough to streamline him.
I also say his upper kibble retracts towards his head, based on the jets that suddenly appear at his midsection on his back.



This was one of those films, for me as a little kid, that was left on to repeat endlessly. To the extent even as a 3y/o, I knew it word for word (and I did voices for everyone too). I still do

ZeroWolf wrote:

joevill wrote:8,000 is not just the target but the minimal required to start production. It doesn't seem like we will be getting this. It will be a sad sad day next Saturday when this backed project fails to meet the quota.

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, as said in the article, this is just based on the preorders from the Pulse site alone, and doesn't include all the other websites preorders that may be added in before the final date.

Assuming of course, that the other sites will do more than equal the numbers Hasbro has via Pulse, of course. Which is a big if.

God I love that scene. I can remember being in the theater as a kid and my jaw hitting the floor. I mean Optimus dies, and yet somehow they keep upping the bar scene after scene culminating in Unicron transforming. I can remember speculating with friends I’d went with where he came from, what his origins were. Best moments of my childhood have that movie attached to them I swear. I used to watch it constantly but my kids aren’t into it and I haven’t watched it in way too long.

And I did all the voices too that’s so funny it’s how I perfected my Optimus that was so fun, man. Great times.

Stargrave wrote:I can remember speculating with friends I’d went with where he came from, what his origins were.

What ideas did you guys come up with?

Sabrblade wrote:

Stargrave wrote:I can remember speculating with friends I’d went with where he came from, what his origins were.

What ideas did you guys come up with?

Well I was left wondering about the Quintessons just if there was any connection there I mean to me I was like is he their Lucifer is he older than time is he like Galactus is he the first Decepticon (???) speculation was rampant as my ma drive us home. I was very disappointed with the Primacron origin that didn’t work for me. I don’t think I was satisfied until I read the Furman origin the first time I was like THATS IT THATS THE ONE I LIKE. It just jibed with my kid comic book reader mentality.

God...”you underestimate me...” and I was like what? What’s he...? Is that? NO, no way! So much awesome. And before knowing Rodimus Prime happened, not knowing how they’d win against this thing. I was too young to wait on the McGuffin you know? No idea Rod would open the Matrix. And I’ll be honest everyone, cried. L’il bit, just l’il bit. L’il Stargrave teared up when the Matrix opened and I got to hear Optimus one more time. Hell it gets me misty now and I’m a grown a$$ man won’t even lie.

Yes, whatever Unicron Fan Theories existed (pre-Furman, of course) NO ONE would have predicted... The Monkey

Apparently an unused idea from the Movie would have been the Quintesson court was connected to Unicron. That they hunted down the survivors and put them on "trial". Which actually gives what they are doing in the final release some context. I think they should have gone with this link, personally.

I’ll be honest with you I wish his leg blew off like a spring loaded rocket fist.

That would be a extremely silly idea To be fair though, Unicron would end up linked to the first Decepticon in some continuity (and classed as a con on toy packaging despite not caring at all about any of them) via his corruption of Megatronus (aka the Fallen)

The Thirteen was the worst idea and concept to happen in any continuity. The Prime fetish, even made it into retconning the origin of the series...

Even with IDW 1.0 establishing it as just a fake religion that Shockwave set up? To my knowledge only Transformers Prime and its spin offs went full hog with the thirteen (talking on screen only at this point) Cyberverse has hinted at one of them but that's it so far