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by **cloudballoon** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:40 am

Not a HW guy. However Bone Shaker looks awesome in alt mode and bot mode got a lot of character thanks to the chest skull design. Will get for the fun of the it depending on the price & availability in Canada.

But Twin Mill is a different story. The car mode is...bad as a car. I'm probably being too analytical, but the dual intakes are obscuring the driver's view so much it's just too ridiculous for me. And the legs in bot mode...yikes. That hollowness is Authentics-level in its badness. The knee joints look weird too. Not interested.

News Credits: 33 · by **kuhlio** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 11:19 am

Well with the Breakfast preview pics starting to hit the inter-webs I am happy to see that these two are 5" and not Hotwheel scale like Optimus was---- I am totally in on these two!

by **cloudballoon** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:17 pm

kuhlio wrote:Well with the Breakfast preview pics starting to hit the inter-webs I am happy to see that these two are 5" and not Hotwheel scale like Optimus was---- I am totally in on these two!

People are saying these are Deluxe scaled but priced at Voyager/Leader class. So that's a bit of a deterrence for me on Twin Mill at least.

News Credits: 18 · by **Dominus Prime** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:04 pm

I'm really digging both of these

News Credits: 18 · by **Dominus Prime** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:07 pm

cloudballoon wrote:
kuhlio wrote:Well with the Breakfast preview pics starting to hit the inter-webs I am happy to see that these two are 5" and not Hotwheel scale like Optimus was---- I am totally in on these two!

People are saying these are Deluxe scaled but priced at Voyager/Leader class. So that's a bit of a deterrence for me on Twin Mill at least.

I wonder if they're using the fact that they're die-cast to justify the price? Still shouldn't be voyager priced. Hopefully that info is incorrect

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:17 pm

Will these be something-or-other exclusives?

by **megatran** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 10:23 pm

cloudballoon wrote:
kuhlio wrote:Well with the Breakfast preview pics starting to hit the inter-webs I am happy to see that these two are 5" and not Hotwheel scale like Optimus was---- I am totally in on these two!

People are saying these are Deluxe scaled but priced at Voyager/Leader class. So that's a bit of a deterrence for me on Twin Mill at least.

Licensing fees & tariff would add to the final price???

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 10:33 pm

I nabbed a preorder on these two earlier today. I absolutely LOVE the collab stuff. When they transform anyway.

The Hot Wheels scale Prime was a pass for me - even as I missed the regular price I can't say I was thrilled for a shrunken down G1 prime. But these guys do it for me. Especially Bone Shaker. Wish he was a Decepticon or even a No Faction, but what can you do? It's Autobots all the way down.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:29 am

Below are the preorder links from Amazon and Pulse for the Hot Wheels Bone Shaker and Twin Mill Transformer Figures. The price is 14% higher in the US than in Canada, where they are sold at the standard deluxe MSRP, and it is unsure if it’s because of tariffs, which have also seen price increases for Lego sets sold to US customers, or if the Amazon.ca price is a fortunate mistake.

Bone Shaker

Amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TRA ... 127&sr=8-5

Amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Coll ... C85&sr=8-4

Pulse https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/tra ... /G11815X00

Twin Mill

Amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-Col ... 127&sr=8-4

Amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Coll ... C85&sr=8-3

Pulse https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/tra ... /G11805X00

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:33 am

I'm very happy that both are deluxes at deluxe prices, no overcharges, and they are not exclusives.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:36 am

I'm surprised these sold out at BBTS already. I thought they'd at least get a few days out of them. I guess that shows how popular these are with collectors, probably the best place to buy online with proper packing.

Emerje

News Credits: 1 · by **Brokebot** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:13 pm

Emerje wrote:I'm surprised these sold out at BBTS already. I thought they'd at least get a few days out of them. I guess that shows how popular these are with collectors, probably the best place to buy online with proper packing.

Emerje

I'm genuinely pissed. I was out of town this weekend, and by the time I got back, everyone was sold out except Pulse, who only had Bone Shakers left. :BANG_HEAD:

edit - Nevermind, Found them on Amazon.

by **megatran** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:00 pm

william-james88 wrote:Below are the preorder links from Amazon and Pulse for the Hot Wheels Bone Shaker and Twin Mill Transformer Figures. The price is 14% higher in the US than in Canada, where they are sold at the standard deluxe MSRP, and it is unsure if it’s because of tariffs, which have also seen price increases for Lego sets sold to US customers, or if the Amazon.ca price is a fortunate mistake.

Bone Shaker

Amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TRA ... 127&sr=8-5

Amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Coll ... C85&sr=8-4

Pulse https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/tra ... /G11815X00

Twin Mill

Amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-Col ... 127&sr=8-4

Amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Coll ... C85&sr=8-3

Pulse https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/tra ... /G11805X00

If you live near the border, could you purchase in Canada & bring it back to the US without attracting additional fees? Or put it on an aerial balloon crossing the border & hope it doesn't get shot down.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:27 am

EB Games Australia pre-orders
Twin Mill - Release date 15/02/2026
Bone Shaker - Release date 10/12/2025

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:33 am

Burn wrote:EB Games Australia pre-orders
Twin Mill - Release date 15/02/2026
Bone Shaker - Release date 10/12/2025

Goddamit, Aussies, your end of the stick is so short, there's no stick left.
50$CAN for a freaking deluxe at the base price. Without taxes. Holy crap.

by **megatran** » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:52 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Burn wrote:EB Games Australia pre-orders
Twin Mill - Release date 15/02/2026
Bone Shaker - Release date 10/12/2025

Goddamit, Aussies, your end of the stick is so short, there's no stick left.
50$CAN for a freaking deluxe at the base price. Without taxes. Holy crap.

Nothing new to us Aussies, unfortunately. The only 'upside' is the price is inclusive of all taxes.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:34 am

megatran wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Burn wrote:EB Games Australia pre-orders
Twin Mill - Release date 15/02/2026
Bone Shaker - Release date 10/12/2025

Goddamit, Aussies, your end of the stick is so short, there's no stick left.
50$CAN for a freaking deluxe at the base price. Without taxes. Holy crap.

Nothing new to us Aussies, unfortunately. The only 'upside' is the price is inclusive of all taxes.

Still more expensive than the rest, but it's much better than I thought.

Canada and the USA should follow Australia and Japan in including the sales taxes in the displayed price. But noooooo, it's too hard to do. I blame the fact that most states and provinces have their regional tax on top of the federal one, making things "complicated." #-o

by **megatran** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:22 am

I'm curious if the quick, high uptake of these will be resold on ebay & the like?!

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:38 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
megatran wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Burn wrote:EB Games Australia pre-orders
Twin Mill - Release date 15/02/2026
Bone Shaker - Release date 10/12/2025

Goddamit, Aussies, your end of the stick is so short, there's no stick left.
50$CAN for a freaking deluxe at the base price. Without taxes. Holy crap.

Nothing new to us Aussies, unfortunately. The only 'upside' is the price is inclusive of all taxes.

Still more expensive than the rest, but it's much better than I thought.

Canada and the USA should follow Australia and Japan in including the sales taxes in the displayed price. But noooooo, it's too hard to do. I blame the fact that most states and provinces have their regional tax on top of the federal one, making things "complicated."

It's a bit of a digression, but ...

I don't think it's "too hard" at all. I think the deceptive marketing practice is exactly the point. They don't want us to know exactly how much it really costs. It's not that they can't. It benefits them to give us sticker shock.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:21 pm

Brokebot wrote:
Emerje wrote:I'm surprised these sold out at BBTS already. I thought they'd at least get a few days out of them. I guess that shows how popular these are with collectors, probably the best place to buy online with proper packing.

Emerje

I'm genuinely pissed. I was out of town this weekend, and by the time I got back, everyone was sold out except Pulse, who only had Bone Shakers left.

edit - Nevermind, Found them on Amazon.

Well it's NO surprise to me that Twin Mill sold out over Bone Shaker....way cooler of the two! The only flaw right now about Twin Mill is the name. :HASBRO:

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shoulda gone with something way better. I think he will look good paired up with Sidburn with fans choice of mold....'nuff said!!! :VEHI:

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:03 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think it's "too hard" at all. I think the deceptive marketing practice is exactly the point. They don't want us to know exactly how much it really costs. It's not that they can't. It benefits them to give us sticker shock.

It's a little easier with the internet, but back when all advertised prices were done in print it would be a logistic nightmare for retailers. Every national catalogue and flyer would have to be printed specifically for each sales tax rate instead of one for the entire country. The US and Canada were just too big with too many tax variations to make that work back in the day and we just got used to it.

Emerje