The Energon Pub

[TF-fan kev777]

So... stupid question... If the Battlemasters are filling the $5-6 titanmaster slot, are the Micromaster pairs filling the $10-12 scout class slot? As much as I love Micromasters and minicons, that feels like a rip off.

Yes unfortunately. I loved the legends figures we have been getting, and really don't care for the micromasters that much (too simple for my tastes). I'll cherry pick a few to buy, but will pass on most of them.

[Dr. Caelus]

So... stupid question... If the Battlemasters are filling the $5-6 titanmaster slot, are the Micromaster pairs filling the $10-12 scout class slot? As much as I love Micromasters and minicons, that feels like a rip off.

Yes unfortunately. I loved the legends figures we have been getting, and really don't care for the micromasters that much (too simple for my tastes). I'll cherry pick a few to buy, but will pass on most of them.

Dang. You'd think for the $10 pricepoint they could stick a third MM in the package like the old Armada Minicon teams.

[Cyberpath]

This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Not close enough. And his other toy is the original 80s one.

[Randomhero]

Someone in tfw2005 already solved it. It’s not an upcoming figure. It’s an abandoned concept by Marcelo and hasbro for Sovereign before Titan masters were decided



Credit to tackertackle over there

[Cyberpath]

At first I honestly thought that art was of a screwy version of Krunk.

Ah, I guess the Horrorcons are not in the cards. Titans Return would have been perfect for them, especially over characters that weren't originally Headmasters, like the other Triple Changers. And it still kind of bums me out that the three Decepticon Targetmasters are also Headmasters.

I wonder if their Autobot counterparts will be made, now that Hasbro has put some emphasis on weapons.

[william-james88]

So... stupid question... If the Battlemasters are filling the $5-6 titanmaster slot, are the Micromaster pairs filling the $10-12 scout class slot? As much as I love Micromasters and minicons, that feels like a rip off.

I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

[quote="Randomhero"]Someone in tfw2005 already solved it. It’s not an upcoming figure. It’s an abandoned concept by Marcelo and hasbro for Sovereign before Titan masters were decided

Yeah, we wrote that yesterday:
transformers-war-for-cybertron-siege-discussion-thread-t110745s2475.php#p1988656

[AcademyofDrX]

I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

I would not pay $5 for any of the Battle Masters in their own. With the included Fire Blasts, though, I'm planning to get all of them. The unique play and display options of this play pattern provide extra value, especially because the Fire Blast parts are exclusive to the Battle Masters products.

I'm not sure if it'll be successful, but I'm all in.

[o.supreme]

The Legends target masters were a little bigger than TM's, and seemed to equate them to a full Titan Master with vehicle (though it was technically less you were getting for your money). Thus I guess reasoned, if you added another chunk of molded plastic (much cheaper and easier to produce) than an actual mini vehicle, I guess that's how they could justify it.

[william-james88]

I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

I would not pay $5 for any of the Battle Masters in their own. With the included Fire Blasts, though, I'm planning to get all of them. The unique play and display options of this play pattern provide extra value, especially because the Fire Blast parts are exclusive to the Battle Masters products.

I'm not sure if it'll be successful, but I'm all in.

Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

[Shackwave]

Looks like just a Prime Master but who knows, could be Moonradar

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Moonradar_(Zone)

[Wolfman Jake]

This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Not close enough. And his other toy is the original 80s one.

It's not that far off either, though. The T30 figure matches up almost perfectly in alt mode. Keep in mind that the figure was originally designed as Swerve for T30, and in the original G1 toyline, Swerve was a retool of Gears. Gears being a redeco and headswap of Swerve does make some sense, but the mold could have used more retooling, at least for the torso, to really distinguish the two and get Gears a little more on-model. Some red vertical stripes on the helmet framing his face would have helped too, honestly.

I wouldnt disagree. Those who bought the Takara TR products were ok with the added Targetmaster costing them an extra 5$ but I am surprised Hasbro saw that as a price everyone was willing to pay.

I would not pay $5 for any of the Battle Masters in their own. With the included Fire Blasts, though, I'm planning to get all of them. The unique play and display options of this play pattern provide extra value, especially because the Fire Blast parts are exclusive to the Battle Masters products.

I'm not sure if it'll be successful, but I'm all in.

Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

What we really need for Siege is an expansion pack of just fire blasts and explosion pieces to decorate our figures.

[AcademyofDrX]

Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

I thought that would vary by product. Firebolt should have two, though Lionizer and Blowpipe would have only one each.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ipe/42030/

Based on stock photos, I'm also expecting Aimless to come with two Fire Blasts.

[william-james88]

Yeah, that was discussed by Scotty P on the most recent Podcast. What I find odd though is that you only get 1 fire blast and not 2. Which is super weird when the guns have 2 barrels. And I still find it rather expensive. I felt it was a better deal with the Titan masters. Also, if we look at the Prime Masters, the pretender shells were targetmasters and still came with a whole extra small bot to add to the value of the price point.

I thought that would vary by product. Firebolt should have two, though Lionizer and Blowpipe would have only one each.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ipe/42030/

Based on stock photos, I'm also expecting Aimless to come with two Fire Blasts.

Looks like I was wrong then, this is great news.

[Cyberpath]

This doesn't look much like Huffer.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if we'll see proper Huffer & Gears anytime soon. They are two of the few Autobots to still not have an official figure close enough to their character-models. Who will get there first -- the Masterpiece line or CHUG?
Both characters have interesting designs, with some almost "Goboty" elements.

Was T30 Gears not close enough, or just not recent enough/hard to find? I thought he was a pretty good representation of Gears.

Not close enough. And his other toy is the original 80s one.

It's not that far off either, though. The T30 figure matches up almost perfectly in alt mode. Keep in mind that the figure was originally designed as Swerve for T30, and in the original G1 toyline, Swerve was a retool of Gears. Gears being a redeco and headswap of Swerve does make some sense, but the mold could have used more retooling, at least for the torso, to really distinguish the two and get Gears a little more on-model. Some red vertical stripes on the helmet framing his face would have helped too, honestly.

I'm looking at the final result and other than the colours there's nothing about the robot that really says "Gears" to me. Very off model.

HasTak did a great job with the more recent Legends-class Brawn, Bumblebee, Windcharger, Beachcomber, and Seaspray -- I think Huffer & Gears could be just a matter of time.

[Wolfman Jake]

I'm looking at the final result and other than the colours there's nothing about the robot that really says "Gears" to me. Very off model.

HasTak did a great job with the more recent Legends-class Brawn, Bumblebee, Windcharger, Beachcomber, and Seaspray -- I think Huffer & Gears could be just a matter of time.

Oh, no doubt, the more recent Minibots are nearly perfect updates of their G1 models, but that's because the push for G1 accuracy has been much more recent than Thrilling 30. I can see being disappointed with Huffer and especially Pipes (totally wrong head), but Swerve is pretty spot on to his G1 self, despite that not being a priority with T30, when he was released. Again, the natural G1 link between Gears and Swerve helps me give T30 Gears a pass when I'd otherwise be scruntizing him a lot harder, as you are. My priority right now, though, is getting the rest of the 1987 Minibots out there. Then we can clean up the few who need a redo, like Huffer/Pipes and Gears. If they're gonna redo Gears, though, they'll need to redo Swerve too, unless they use the same vehicle shell from T30 and swap in some new robot mode parts, like a better torso, head, and maybe even some newly sculpted legs.

[Va'al]

Looking at some Amazon listings for upcoming items from the Transformers: War for Cybertron Siege toyline, we have a number of previously revealed at New York Comic Con 2018 figures - of which you can see images in our very own galleries here, or official images here - including the likes of

• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Fan Vote Autobot aka Mirage
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Fan Vote Decepticon aka Impactor
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Reflector / Refraktor
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Brunt
• Tra Gen Wfc Deluxe Red Alert

What is new, especially at the 19.99 USD price point, is a listing for a Barricade that we had yet to see talked about or mentioned in the line. Join the discussion and speculate away on what the character might be, given the original G1 character is part of the Race Car Patrol Micro Master team!

[Agent 53]

19.99 is Deluxe pricepoint now right? If so I suspect that Barricade is probably a fusion of G1 and film designs, considering that unlike most micromasters (and over late G1 subline characters) who have mostly been consigned to history until now, Barricade is probably more known for his Cop Car persona.

[Coptur]

yeah i agree with that.

nothing wrong them releasing (half) Race Track Patrol and calling one Barricade though. I believe Micromaster teams are marketed by their team names and not the individual names anyway.


Did anyone ask if say Nightflight & Tailwind were going to join their team mates at some point?

[Skritz]

If he's a Deluxe, then he most likely is a Prowl retool which use the Evergreen Barricade.

[Amelie]

The completionist in me is saying "buy all the things", but my sensible, early G1 centric self is saying

"only get the MTMTE toys"....

This line already looks like a winner to me, though. I wasn't into the Titan Masters stuff and POTP felt too late to jump in (except the fembots, I nabbed those).

[william-james88]

The completionist in me is saying "buy all the things", but my sensible, early G1 centric self is saying

"only get the MTMTE toys"....

This line already looks like a winner to me, though. I wasn't into the Titan Masters stuff and POTP felt too late to jump in (except the fembots, I nabbed those).

Thats cool since Shockwave and Soundwave showed up in the MTMTE crossover

[Stormshot_Prime]

Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner wars exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

[Sabrblade]

Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner award exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

It's supposed to be before he chose his finalized side in the war, with Mirage being the one who convinces him to join.

[Sabrblade]

If he's a Deluxe, then he most likely is a Prowl retool which use the Evergreen Barricade.

Yeah, Evergreen Barricade seems most likely.

[Stormshot_Prime]

Can’t wait to see Impactor! I’ve lost too many bidding wars for his Combiner award exclusive, and the FOC figure is just straight up lame. Hopefully he’s accurate to both his G1 UK look and his IDW look.

My only concern is why they’re making him a Decepticon? I get the whole “versus” aspect of the fan vote, but it would hav been plenty believable if he was a rogue Autobot, or specifically designated as a Wrecker. That’s like releasing a Decepticon Cliffjumper if you ask me.

It's supposed to be before he chose his finalized side in the war, with Mirage being the one who convinces him to join.

That’s suprisingly satisfying