an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
o.supreme wrote:do I expect IDW to all of a sudden change and conform to be a *true* follow up to the Marvel series,
not_a_bot wrote:I just made an account (finally, after months of lurking) to comment on this, because one really important bit told in this issue has not been adressed as of yet.
Meaning, all this talking about who´s dead and how the wrong guy won, but nobody ever mentioned that Getaway is right now stuck in a time loop?
Can I back up this theory?
It is all there: simply look at page three, second panel. See what he´s dong there. Now go to page 21, panel three.
Not sure what this means about most of the other things happening in the book, but this makes one thing clear: what we see in the end is not Cyberutopia. Rather, it is what Getaway expects Cyberutopia to look like. Or even what Sunder thinks that Getaway expects Cyberutopia to look like. Even that one is mentioned in the form of Froid (almost) criticising Getaway. Not even Froid and (probably) Sunder do no longer condone what Getaway is doing at this point.
ArmadaPrime wrote:Speaking of things seeming out of place: Chekhov's time jump? The only reason I can figure for the whole "left the rabbithole before we arrived" is that maybe it somehow explains Riptide surviving 5 minutes in the pool. I figured he just outran the scraplets in boat form.
Burn wrote:o.supreme wrote:do I expect IDW to all of a sudden change and conform to be a *true* follow up to the Marvel series,
But...they did.
Lore Keeper wrote:an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
Honestly, this is how all the gratuitous character deaths have been leaving me feeling lately. I applaud a story that isn't afraid to kill a character just because they're important, but it seems to become more excessive over time with these comics. Definitely feels like someone just came and smashed my Defensor and left my Optimus Maximus short one arm or leg.
CaptainMagic wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
Honestly, this is how all the gratuitous character deaths have been leaving me feeling lately. I applaud a story that isn't afraid to kill a character just because they're important, but it seems to become more excessive over time with these comics. Definitely feels like someone just came and smashed my Defensor and left my Optimus Maximus short one arm or leg.
Oh, come on! You're skipping my whole post and just going for the bit you've already said! I know that's how this story feels. I even kind of agree with you. I'm just trying to see if there's a way to re-frame this story where we don't have to talk about Roberts as some world-weary crap writer while still acknowledging the flaws in the story. Basically, is there a way to criticize the work without needing to insult the man? And for the record, I didn't like this issue all that much either, and I've been cooling quite a bit on LL as well. I've just been putting a lot of thought into why that is and trying to come up with, if not a more hopeful interpretation, at least a more positive one.
CaptainMagic wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
Honestly, this is how all the gratuitous character deaths have been leaving me feeling lately. I applaud a story that isn't afraid to kill a character just because they're important, but it seems to become more excessive over time with these comics. Definitely feels like someone just came and smashed my Defensor and left my Optimus Maximus short one arm or leg.
Oh, come on! You're skipping my whole post and just going for the bit you've already said! I know that's how this story feels. I even kind of agree with you. I'm just trying to see if there's a way to re-frame this story where we don't have to talk about Roberts as some world-weary crap writer while still acknowledging the flaws in the story. Basically, is there a way to criticize the work without needing to insult the man? And for the record, I didn't like this issue all that much either, and I've been cooling quite a bit on LL as well. I've just been putting a lot of thought into why that is and trying to come up with, if not a more hopeful interpretation, at least a more positive one.
Oh, and about this all being Getaway's memory loop, that could actually be pretty bad news depending on what did and did not happen. It could be that when we next see the Lost Light it's going to be run by Star Saber. So I guess the question there is: how man brutal sociopaths do you want all your favorite background crew members to suffer under?
Lore Keeper wrote:CaptainMagic wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
Honestly, this is how all the gratuitous character deaths have been leaving me feeling lately. I applaud a story that isn't afraid to kill a character just because they're important, but it seems to become more excessive over time with these comics. Definitely feels like someone just came and smashed my Defensor and left my Optimus Maximus short one arm or leg.
Oh, come on! You're skipping my whole post and just going for the bit you've already said! I know that's how this story feels. I even kind of agree with you. I'm just trying to see if there's a way to re-frame this story where we don't have to talk about Roberts as some world-weary crap writer while still acknowledging the flaws in the story. Basically, is there a way to criticize the work without needing to insult the man? And for the record, I didn't like this issue all that much either, and I've been cooling quite a bit on LL as well. I've just been putting a lot of thought into why that is and trying to come up with, if not a more hopeful interpretation, at least a more positive one.
Oh, and about this all being Getaway's memory loop, that could actually be pretty bad news depending on what did and did not happen. It could be that when we next see the Lost Light it's going to be run by Star Saber. So I guess the question there is: how man brutal sociopaths do you want all your favorite background crew members to suffer under?
I didn't mean to brush off the rest if your post; I just really like the way you worded that. I do agree with you that while this issue is getting a lot of hate, it doesn't mean the writer is past his prime or just not good in general. In fact, I get the distinct feeling not everything is as it seems in the issue. I think the strange flow of events and the pacing may indicate that there is indeed a glitch in the Matrix. That, or I'm just having trouble coming to terms with all the good characters that just died.
A witty, smart, emotional take on fan-favorite Transformers characters in a sci-fi world unlike any other!
Winner of the Comixology Award for Best Ongoing Comic Series of 2017, as well as Best Writer for James Roberts!
Crammed into a dead Decepticon astropod that's ten sizes too small, the displaced crew of the Lost Light face their most serious threat yet: each other. No worries though, Rodimus can save the day! Plus, the Scavengers have never had it so good. The war is a receding memory, their patchy service records have been forgotten, and the five of them can roam the galaxy as they please. All's well that ends well? Not quite.
Collects issues #13-18.
WreckerJack wrote:My GF pointed out Drift and Ratchet's pose looks like they are going to kiss. CANNOT UNSEE!
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Lore Keeper wrote:an angry child spitefully smashing toys so we can't play with them.
Honestly, this is how all the gratuitous character deaths have been leaving me feeling lately. I applaud a story that isn't afraid to kill a character just because they're important, but it seems to become more excessive over time with these comics. Definitely feels like someone just came and smashed my Defensor and left my Optimus Maximus short one arm or leg.
WreckerJack wrote:...How was Ambulon allowed to be the leg if he was dead? Either there is something they are not telling us or thats a bit of a plot hole. How can a leg be a leg if it can't move?
o.supreme wrote:^It's a similar situation with Bruticus in TAAO. Swindle was a comatose/dead bot (forget exactly which), but they still combined. I can understand how from a physical perspective. But now mentally, you are only starting out at 80% at best, plus we know that Combiners have to put in intense effort to meld mentally in the first place, having one out of commission makes it all the worse I would think.
Sagitta wrote:o.supreme wrote:^It's a similar situation with Bruticus in TAAO. Swindle was a comatose/dead bot (forget exactly which), but they still combined. I can understand how from a physical perspective. But now mentally, you are only starting out at 80% at best, plus we know that Combiners have to put in intense effort to meld mentally in the first place, having one out of commission makes it all the worse I would think.
True. But with the one being being out of commission does that make the easier for the over-all combiner to control the "dead-metal"...or harder without the additional "mental push"?
I know there was a G1 'toon episode on this: "B.O.T." but that doesn't exactly work into the equation. A different beast so to speak. Bruticus couldn't even stay connected together for any amount of time when Brawl's brain went A.W.O.L.
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