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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:44 pm

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MagicDeath wrote:Anyone here collect in this format? Any thoughts on it?

I like volumes but they can be kinda pricey. I will say that 20 bucks for 6 issues is a good deal. I also really like how volumes fit on a shelf. Kinda hard to collect because I wind up buying the paper issues so its harder to justify buying the same issues over in a collection. So it has its ups and downs, depending if you are patient or not.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:03 pm

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MagicDeath wrote:Anyone here collect in this format? Any thoughts on it?

I like volumes but they can be kinda pricey. I will say that 20 bucks for 6 issues is a good deal. I also really like how volumes fit on a shelf. Kinda hard to collect because I wind up buying the paper issues so its harder to justify buying the same issues over in a collection. So it has its ups and downs, depending if you are patient or not.


Honestly, I recommend getting the digital versions on Comixology over the trade. Over on comixology, each individual issue drops in price by 50% after a month or so. Right now, you can buy all 6 volume one issues for $12 online rather than $20 in a trade. IDW is also one of the few publishers on Comixology that lets you download a pdf of their comics, so you can have a drm free version if you're so inclined. A much better deal imo.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:11 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Ugh. Anode. I almost forgot. >:oP

Anyway, I haven't read any of the Lost Light issues, for 2 reasons: I learned my lesson with Dying of The Light that Roberts has been exposed as mediocre at best, someone who can't keep a coherent story together from issue to issue, never mind keeping a complex character like Getaway on the same level from issue to issue. Also, Dying of The Light was pretty decent as a TPB, even with the garbage ending, but it has to be read all at once. So I am willing to give Lost Light one chance, by reading the Volume 1 TPB. If I don't like it, I'm done with this crap, and I will never again waste a minute of my time reading or a penny of my money buying anything with Roberts' name on it.


Good luck with that. The first volume of Lost Light is basically an arc that exists solely to get rid of Megatron, introduce a couple of new characters, and set up a whole ton of plot points that won't be resolved or explored until much later.

The series, as it is now, would have worked so much better if Megatron had died in the explosion, done away with Functionist Universe entirely, and just started with the mutineers plot line.

I'm in a weird position where I stopped reading since issue 7 but am vaguely interested in the mutiny. I want to read about Getaway's shenanigans, yet I won't pick it up because I am dreading the moment when that's over and the story gets mired in everything that was set up in the 1st volume.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:14 am

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MagicDeath wrote:Anyone here collect in this format? Any thoughts on it?

I like volumes but they can be kinda pricey. I will say that 20 bucks for 6 issues is a good deal. I also really like how volumes fit on a shelf. Kinda hard to collect because I wind up buying the paper issues so its harder to justify buying the same issues over in a collection. So it has its ups and downs, depending if you are patient or not.


I only pick up trades, as Italy does not get single issues of a lot of comics (so I have to ship them from UK shop where I have pull list). But the aesthetic reasons that WJ points out here are good - plus, easier to share with other potential readers as a collected arc!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:37 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Ugh. Anode. I almost forgot. >:oP

Anyway, I haven't read any of the Lost Light issues, for 2 reasons: I learned my lesson with Dying of The Light that Roberts has been exposed as mediocre at best, someone who can't keep a coherent story together from issue to issue, never mind keeping a complex character like Getaway on the same level from issue to issue. Also, Dying of The Light was pretty decent as a TPB, even with the garbage ending, but it has to be read all at once. So I am willing to give Lost Light one chance, by reading the Volume 1 TPB. If I don't like it, I'm done with this crap, and I will never again waste a minute of my time reading or a penny of my money buying anything with Roberts' name on it.


Good luck with that. The first volume of Lost Light is basically an arc that exists solely to get rid of Megatron, introduce a couple of new characters, and set up a whole ton of plot points that won't be resolved or explored until much later.

The series, as it is now, would have worked so much better if Megatron had died in the explosion, done away with Functionist Universe entirely, and just started with the mutineers plot line.

I'm in a weird position where I stopped reading since issue 7 but am vaguely interested in the mutiny. I want to read about Getaway's shenanigans, yet I won't pick it up because I am dreading the moment when that's over and the story gets mired in everything that was set up in the 1st volume.
So they might as well have kept the series named MTMTE because nothing drastically different has happened, it's just a continuation of the same story with mostly the same characters? I guess maybe IDW thought if it was renamed it would renew waning interest in the series. But unless they get a better writer, it's going to stay the same boring and unsatisfactory garbage. I'm still going to give it one shot, maybe I end up being interested in some of the new plot points you mentioned. I do think the mutiny story is interesting, I just hope it doesn't drag out and end with a whimper like Dying of The Light did.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:01 am

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The first 6 (7, really, but they don't do 7 issue TPBs these days) issues of Lost Light read way better in a collected format than they did as a serial. Maybe that will help, maybe it won't though. Sounds like you've made your mind up?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:26 am

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MagicDeath wrote:Anyone here collect in this format? Any thoughts on it?

I collect the TPB. I like it since you get everything all nice and together, but the opening TPB isn't too much to get excited for. The opening story was quite lackluster.
WreckerJack wrote:I like volumes but they can be kinda pricey. I will say that 20 bucks for 6 issues is a good deal. I also really like how volumes fit on a shelf. Kinda hard to collect because I wind up buying the paper issues so its harder to justify buying the same issues over in a collection. So it has its ups and downs, depending if you are patient or not.

The amazing thing is if you wait just a little bit after the release date, Amazon slashes the prices. I usually get the TPBs for $15ish, give or take $2. It also thanks to amazon that I got all the hardbacks to catch up on IDW before Death of Optimus Prime. Only spent around $300 to get all 8, and that was 8 years of comics I believe.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby MagicDeath » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:16 pm

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So, yeah, I know that individual issues (not digital) get pricey in the long run, so I’ve gotten some of the larger hardcover collections. Seems that it has basically the same advantages: ~$50 for ~2 smaller collections (Amazon usually lowers that price a bit), plus story organization, and looking good on a shelf.

I got the big compendium (first two hardcover collections), then finished up those arcs digitally.

Seems like you all have similar observations as I did, so I’ll keep my methods the same. Thanks for the help!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:24 pm

ScottyP wrote:The first 6 (7, really, but they don't do 7 issue TPBs these days) issues of Lost Light read way better in a collected format than they did as a serial. Maybe that will help, maybe it won't though. Sounds like you've made your mind up?
Yeah I prefer my comics in TPBs. I have the Marvel Titan TPBs as well as Regeneration One in addition to the individual issues. So I will give LL a shot in TPB format so I can get the whole story at once.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:20 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Ugh. Anode. I almost forgot. >:oP

Anyway, I haven't read any of the Lost Light issues, for 2 reasons: I learned my lesson with Dying of The Light that Roberts has been exposed as mediocre at best, someone who can't keep a coherent story together from issue to issue, never mind keeping a complex character like Getaway on the same level from issue to issue. Also, Dying of The Light was pretty decent as a TPB, even with the garbage ending, but it has to be read all at once. So I am willing to give Lost Light one chance, by reading the Volume 1 TPB. If I don't like it, I'm done with this crap, and I will never again waste a minute of my time reading or a penny of my money buying anything with Roberts' name on it.


Good luck with that. The first volume of Lost Light is basically an arc that exists solely to get rid of Megatron, introduce a couple of new characters, and set up a whole ton of plot points that won't be resolved or explored until much later.

The series, as it is now, would have worked so much better if Megatron had died in the explosion, done away with Functionist Universe entirely, and just started with the mutineers plot line.

I'm in a weird position where I stopped reading since issue 7 but am vaguely interested in the mutiny. I want to read about Getaway's shenanigans, yet I won't pick it up because I am dreading the moment when that's over and the story gets mired in everything that was set up in the 1st volume.
So they might as well have kept the series named MTMTE because nothing drastically different has happened, it's just a continuation of the same story with mostly the same characters? I guess maybe IDW thought if it was renamed it would renew waning interest in the series. But unless they get a better writer, it's going to stay the same boring and unsatisfactory garbage. I'm still going to give it one shot, maybe I end up being interested in some of the new plot points you mentioned. I do think the mutiny story is interesting, I just hope it doesn't drag out and end with a whimper like Dying of The Light did.


It's odd because the series is 10 issues in and only now are we actually getting to the lost light. The new series basically introduces a couple of new recurring characters (Anode, Lug, Roller) and focuses the story and a smaller and obvious core group. So far the list is basically Hot Rod, Ratchet, Velocity, Swerve, Cyclonus, Tailgate, Nightbeat, Anode, Lug, Nautica, Rung, Drift, Chromedome, and Rewind (I'm sure I'm forgetting some), as opposed to having a wider range of characters aboard the eponymous ship. Granted, that could change since we've only just reached the Lost Light, but not having the ship around and the hundreds of crew members was a turn off for me, as well as the general bad taste in my mouth after 7 issues.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:43 pm

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I'm pretty sure Jro's said on his Twitter, but yeah, the name change and numbering restart was purely a business decision. It was always intended to just be MTMTE all the way through; so Lost Light #10 is essentially MTMTE #67.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:55 pm

Kurona wrote:I'm pretty sure Jro's said on his Twitter, but yeah, the name change and numbering restart was purely a business decision. It was always intended to just be MTMTE all the way through; so Lost Light #10 is essentially MTMTE #67.
Then why bother? Personally I like Lost
Light better as a title, they should have had that from the beginning.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:58 pm

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Kurona wrote:I'm pretty sure Jro's said on his Twitter, but yeah, the name change and numbering restart was purely a business decision. It was always intended to just be MTMTE all the way through; so Lost Light #10 is essentially MTMTE #67.
Then why bother? Personally I like Lost
Light better as a title, they should have had that from the beginning.

I agree on the latter, and as for the former I think it's generally to do with Revolution. They were hoping for a big huge sales boost and #1s tend to get better sales.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:38 pm

Kurona wrote:
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Kurona wrote:I'm pretty sure Jro's said on his Twitter, but yeah, the name change and numbering restart was purely a business decision. It was always intended to just be MTMTE all the way through; so Lost Light #10 is essentially MTMTE #67.
Then why bother? Personally I like Lost
Light better as a title, they should have had that from the beginning.

I agree on the latter, and as for the former I think it's generally to do with Revolution. They were hoping for a big huge sales boost and #1s tend to get better sales.
But if it was common knowledge that LL would be a continuation of MTMTE then it wasn't really a #1 issue. Or does IDW think its readers are that stupid?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:41 pm

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No, it's just a fairly common business practise in the comics industry. Go to any sales chart; first issues of anything sell better than issues that come after it. That's why restarts like this happen all the time.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:14 am

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ScottyP wrote:The first 6 (7, really, but they don't do 7 issue TPBs these days) issues of Lost Light read way better in a collected format than they did as a serial. Maybe that will help, maybe it won't though. Sounds like you've made your mind up?
Yeah I prefer my comics in TPBs. I have the Marvel Titan TPBs as well as Regeneration One in addition to the individual issues. So I will give LL a shot in TPB format so I can get the whole story at once.

Slightly off note here, but I got all 4 issues of RG1 at the same time and i loved it. It was a great run, probably helped by me getting it all at once to read. Still pick it up to read time to time
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Transformers Lost Light #11
(W) James Roberts (A) Priscilla Tramontano (CA) Nick Roche
Success? The crew of the Lost Light, led by the mutinous Getaway, is now only weeks away from completing their quest. But such remarkable progress comes at a price. Just how far is their new captain prepared to go to find Cyberutopia? Unfortunately for the likes of Riptide and First Aid, it turns out the answer is "very far indeed."
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(W) James Roberts (A) Priscilla Tramontano (CA) Alex Milne
Success? The crew of the Lost Light, led by the mutinous Getaway, is now only weeks away from completing their quest. But such remarkable progress comes at a price. Just how far is their new captain prepared to go to find Cyberutopia? Unfortunately for the likes of Riptide and First Aid, it turns out the answer is "very far indeed."
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(W) James Roberts (A) Jack Lawrence (CA) Joana Lafuente
Success? The crew of the Lost Light, led by the mutinous Getaway, is now only weeks away from completing their quest. But such remarkable progress comes at a price. Just how far is their new captain prepared to go to find Cyberutopia? Unfortunately for the likes of Riptide and First Aid, it turns out the answer is "very far indeed."
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:10 am

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So we're getting Cyberverse versions of Shockwave, Thundercracker and Skywarp too! ... I mean, not awfully surprising, but hey.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:46 am

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I love how the synopsis changes by 1 name between what's listed here and what was advertised at the end of issue 10.

Hint: Riptide's name was replaced with Thunderclash's.

Also, that First Aid cover... :-(
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby bodrock » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:29 pm

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Definitely want dat First Aid cover! I really liked issue 10 and am eager to see how this ends for Getaway.

I wish I could be more patient and read the TPBs instead (like I did for MTMTE)....but I like going to the comics store to pick up the latest issue.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:27 pm

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Va'al wrote:Oh don't get me wrong: Getaway is a piece of ****. Always has been since introduction in IDWverse.

So was Megatron. A genocidal piece of ****. And he was redeemed, made charismatic, and endeared to the reader.

I am frustrated by how the two are being used by the narrative in almost opposite ways, to condemn one while shrugging away the other. While both being pieces of ****.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby bodrock » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:23 pm

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I was intrigued by the possibilities with Megatron, and can't wait to see how he returns to the story....but to see him as fully redeemed?
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I don't mind Optimus being more ruthless, either -- but I honestly still can't believe he killed Galvatron the way he did. But I will be reading that series in TPB, unlike with this one.

I just love the focus on the random assortment of characters in Lost Light, and you can tell Roberts is having fun, too.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:30 am

I know this is the wrong thread, but...Optimus killed...Galvatron...?

Anyway...is it a certainty that MTMTE/LL will stop at 100 issues?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:57 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I know this is the wrong thread, but...Optimus killed...Galvatron...?

Anyway...is it a certainty that MTMTE/LL will stop at 100 issues?

No, they hope to at least make that threshold
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:17 am

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Hate to be That Guy, but it probably won't get there. I'm gonna bet Lost Light gets canned or rebooted again somehow around the 21-22 mark.

I don't want that to happen, but it would not surprise me to see some major shakeups post-Unicron. In the meantime I'll do what I can buying multiple covers every month in my desperate bid to throw money around trying to prevent the inevitable.
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