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Randomhero wrote:I've been in the boat of I don't think this was a very good story.
Sorry but there's a lot of things I don't like and believe would have happened. The DJD coincidently showing up on the Necroworld the exact same time getaway and the Council team up to dispatch Megatron. It's too perfect. The council even bothering to rebuild Overlord to dispatch Megatron when they have fleets of ships that are capable of leveling planets. It reminds of all the talk about how powerful and indestructible overlord is yet he was taken out by a couple missiles that blow up asteroids. I'm looking forward to this issue because that means it's over and we can move on.
MrBlack wrote:Randomhero wrote:I've been in the boat of I don't think this was a very good story.
Sorry but there's a lot of things I don't like and believe would have happened. The DJD coincidently showing up on the Necroworld the exact same time getaway and the Council team up to dispatch Megatron. It's too perfect. The council even bothering to rebuild Overlord to dispatch Megatron when they have fleets of ships that are capable of leveling planets. It reminds of all the talk about how powerful and indestructible overlord is yet he was taken out by a couple missiles that blow up asteroids. I'm looking forward to this issue because that means it's over and we can move on.
It seems like the prevailing theory is that Getaway made a deal with the Galactic Council to isolate Megatron, and the Necroworld distress call/attack was just a convenient opportunity to carry out that plan.
The DJD set up the distress call/attack independently to lure the Lost Light to them, and the crew saw an opportunity to carry out the mutiny. They made sure all the Megatron sympathizers were on the Rodpod, sabotaged its new engine so they could not escape the planet, and sent them on their way. The crew expected the Galactic Council to take care of Megatron; they didn't know that the DJD was on Necroworld. That's why Overlord showed up much later: The Galactic Council didn't know where Megatron and Team Rodimus were until Getaway told them.
Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's... not really a coincidence. The comics themselves state that the DJD was luring them to the planet, the rest of the Lost Lighters found that and figured it was a good opportunity to dump them off and done that.
Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's... not really a coincidence. The comics themselves state that the DJD was luring them to the planet, the rest of the Lost Lighters found that and figured it was a good opportunity to dump them off and done that.
But it's been stated the mutineers did not know. If th y had would they allow Rodimus and crew to go there? Before we knew he made the deal with the galactic council? Absolutely not. That was my biggest problem that people like hoist and percepter were okay with this. Now we know they didn't know the DJD were involved. It is a coincidence. They didn't know
MrBlack wrote:I feel dumb for not having realized sooner that the reason Megatron is cowering behind the force field on the last page of the preview is because he's also subject to the effects of the distress signal.
Kurona wrote:Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's... not really a coincidence. The comics themselves state that the DJD was luring them to the planet, the rest of the Lost Lighters found that and figured it was a good opportunity to dump them off and done that.
But it's been stated the mutineers did not know. If th y had would they allow Rodimus and crew to go there? Before we knew he made the deal with the galactic council? Absolutely not. That was my biggest problem that people like hoist and percepter were okay with this. Now we know they didn't know the DJD were involved. It is a coincidence. They didn't know
Yeah, they didn't know the DJD was there at all. Look, to put it simply...
DJD are on the hunt for Megsy and his new little ragtag buncha nerds. They figure a good way to do this is to send out a fake distress signal and set up camp on the necroplanet; probably because it's isolated.
Meanwhile, Getaway, Blaster, Riptide, Mainframe, Atomizer; all those guys have made a deal with the Galactic Council that they would hand over Megatron to be assassinated by their agent/agents, possibly - most likely, even - unknown to them to be a certain bastard phase-sixer. They've made that deal, but they need a way to do it. They need a way to hand over Megatron while also getting rid of Rodimus. Not the easiest thing in the galaxy to do. So they pick up a mysterious signal/psychic attack - perfect. They can use that to send Megatron, Rodimus etc. down there. They don't know who's down there, but does it matter? They're at the end of their tether and desperately need a way to get rid of these guys; might as well use this - when is an opportunity like it gonna come up again?
It's really quite simple.
Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's... not really a coincidence. The comics themselves state that the DJD was luring them to the planet, the rest of the Lost Lighters found that and figured it was a good opportunity to dump them off and done that.
But it's been stated the mutineers did not know. If th y had would they allow Rodimus and crew to go there? Before we knew he made the deal with the galactic council? Absolutely not. That was my biggest problem that people like hoist and percepter were okay with this. Now we know they didn't know the DJD were involved. It is a coincidence. They didn't know
Yeah, they didn't know the DJD was there at all. Look, to put it simply...
DJD are on the hunt for Megsy and his new little ragtag buncha nerds. They figure a good way to do this is to send out a fake distress signal and set up camp on the necroplanet; probably because it's isolated.
Meanwhile, Getaway, Blaster, Riptide, Mainframe, Atomizer; all those guys have made a deal with the Galactic Council that they would hand over Megatron to be assassinated by their agent/agents, possibly - most likely, even - unknown to them to be a certain bastard phase-sixer. They've made that deal, but they need a way to do it. They need a way to hand over Megatron while also getting rid of Rodimus. Not the easiest thing in the galaxy to do. So they pick up a mysterious signal/psychic attack - perfect. They can use that to send Megatron, Rodimus etc. down there. They don't know who's down there, but does it matter? They're at the end of their tether and desperately need a way to get rid of these guys; might as well use this - when is an opportunity like it gonna come up again?
It's really quite simple.
Except they didn't send the signal. The necrobot sent the signal. They already said that he sent out the signal that was a warning, not a cry for help. The DJD showed up attacked and th necrobot sent it just before he was killed. Again it's all coincidental that the DJD are there and it's not that good of story telling
Randomhero wrote:What doesn't make sense is why the Necroworld to begin with? Getaway and the council had a plan to lure team Rodimus to the Necroworld so they could abandon the crew and deliver Megatron to the the galactic council and be on their way to find the Knights.
The DJD showed up out of nowhere and killed the necrobot.
Here's my problem: what would have happened if the DJD didn't show up? They all show up and find him just hanging out saying "what are you all doing here?" This is my problem. If the DJD never showed then concere wouldn't have sent out a mental attack which means they would never have stopped there sooooo yeah this makes no sense.
Kurona wrote:Randomhero wrote:What doesn't make sense is why the Necroworld to begin with? Getaway and the council had a plan to lure team Rodimus to the Necroworld so they could abandon the crew and deliver Megatron to the the galactic council and be on their way to find the Knights.
The DJD showed up out of nowhere and killed the necrobot.
Here's my problem: what would have happened if the DJD didn't show up? They all show up and find him just hanging out saying "what are you all doing here?" This is my problem. If the DJD never showed then concere wouldn't have sent out a mental attack which means they would never have stopped there sooooo yeah this makes no sense.
There's literally nothing to say Getaway and the Galactic Council had any plan whatsoever to lure them specifically to the Necroworld.
Kurona wrote:MrBlack wrote:I feel dumb for not having realized sooner that the reason Megatron is cowering behind the force field on the last page of the preview is because he's also subject to the effects of the distress signal.
... oh damn, yeah...
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Randomhero wrote:I said seven months ago this story will probably be much better in trade all together. I was very unhappy with certain individual issue but as a whole it came together just fine
i love the fact that once tarns mask came off underneath was exactly why I imagined, he looked like everyone else. Other than his scars there's nothing that would have identified him to anyone. "Once we pull that mask off it'll be Roller!" Roller looks like everyone, it's the generic face.and Glitch! Anyone who says they saw coming is a liar!im honestly not disappointed I was wrong about him being proteus. I'd rather be wrong and surprised than right
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Randomhero wrote:I said seven months ago this story will probably be much better in trade all together. I was very unhappy with certain individual issue but as a whole it came together just fine
i love the fact that once tarns mask came off underneath was exactly why I imagined, he looked like everyone else. Other than his scars there's nothing that would have identified him to anyone. "Once we pull that mask off it'll be Roller!" Roller looks like everyone, it's the generic face.and Glitch! Anyone who says they saw coming is a liar!im honestly not disappointed I was wrong about him being proteus. I'd rather be wrong and surprised than right
MrBlack wrote:Randomhero wrote:I said seven months ago this story will probably be much better in trade all together. I was very unhappy with certain individual issue but as a whole it came together just fine
i love the fact that once tarns mask came off underneath was exactly why I imagined, he looked like everyone else. Other than his scars there's nothing that would have identified him to anyone. "Once we pull that mask off it'll be Roller!" Roller looks like everyone, it's the generic face.and Glitch! Anyone who says they saw coming is a liar!im honestly not disappointed I was wrong about him being proteus. I'd rather be wrong and surprised than right
It being Glitch makes sense. The powers are an evolution of his earlier ability to stop non-sentient machines (I would guess his earlier power was never displayed because there was just never a chance for him to use it), the evolution of his powers harkens back to his first appearance where Shockwave said his powers would continue to grow, Skids recognized his voice at Grindcore because he previously knew Glitch, and recruiting him would hurt Optimus Prime because Glitch was one of his earliest allies.
I'll admit that the reveal lacked some emotional resonance because we never got to know Glitch in his two appearances in the book. That said, I think I'm okay with it. If it had been, say, Roller or Terminus, Tarn's quick end would have felt anticlimactic. Tarn being an almost non-entity in the book seems fitting: He truly is just a thug who thinks too highly of himself. Plus, it means we get both Roller and Terminus in the cast of Lost Light, thanks to a twist I did not see coming.
Randomhero wrote:MrBlack wrote:Randomhero wrote:I said seven months ago this story will probably be much better in trade all together. I was very unhappy with certain individual issue but as a whole it came together just fine
i love the fact that once tarns mask came off underneath was exactly why I imagined, he looked like everyone else. Other than his scars there's nothing that would have identified him to anyone. "Once we pull that mask off it'll be Roller!" Roller looks like everyone, it's the generic face.and Glitch! Anyone who says they saw coming is a liar!im honestly not disappointed I was wrong about him being proteus. I'd rather be wrong and surprised than right
It being Glitch makes sense. The powers are an evolution of his earlier ability to stop non-sentient machines (I would guess his earlier power was never displayed because there was just never a chance for him to use it), the evolution of his powers harkens back to his first appearance where Shockwave said his powers would continue to grow, Skids recognized his voice at Grindcore because he previously knew Glitch, and recruiting him would hurt Optimus Prime because Glitch was one of his earliest allies.
I'll admit that the reveal lacked some emotional resonance because we never got to know Glitch in his two appearances in the book. That said, I think I'm okay with it. If it had been, say, Roller or Terminus, Tarn's quick end would have felt anticlimactic. Tarn being an almost non-entity in the book seems fitting: He truly is just a thug who thinks too highly of himself. Plus, it means we get both Roller and Terminus in the cast of Lost Light, thanks to a twist I did not see coming.
Exactly, how many times has tarn been accused of being a nobody and a thug? Turns out he's exactly what everyone said he was.
Honestly it comes down to everyone falling in love with the DJD and getting their hopes up on something that really didn't need to be. I've never been a fan of the DJD. They've always been something I've never cared for and it's mostly due to the fandom blowing them out of proportion. Someone sneezes in the comic and 3 people on message boards scream "ITS BECAUSE OF THE DJD!!!"
It got tiresome for me
Dr Va'al wrote:Randomhero wrote:MrBlack wrote:Randomhero wrote:I said seven months ago this story will probably be much better in trade all together. I was very unhappy with certain individual issue but as a whole it came together just fine
i love the fact that once tarns mask came off underneath was exactly why I imagined, he looked like everyone else. Other than his scars there's nothing that would have identified him to anyone. "Once we pull that mask off it'll be Roller!" Roller looks like everyone, it's the generic face.and Glitch! Anyone who says they saw coming is a liar!im honestly not disappointed I was wrong about him being proteus. I'd rather be wrong and surprised than right
It being Glitch makes sense. The powers are an evolution of his earlier ability to stop non-sentient machines (I would guess his earlier power was never displayed because there was just never a chance for him to use it), the evolution of his powers harkens back to his first appearance where Shockwave said his powers would continue to grow, Skids recognized his voice at Grindcore because he previously knew Glitch, and recruiting him would hurt Optimus Prime because Glitch was one of his earliest allies.
I'll admit that the reveal lacked some emotional resonance because we never got to know Glitch in his two appearances in the book. That said, I think I'm okay with it. If it had been, say, Roller or Terminus, Tarn's quick end would have felt anticlimactic. Tarn being an almost non-entity in the book seems fitting: He truly is just a thug who thinks too highly of himself. Plus, it means we get both Roller and Terminus in the cast of Lost Light, thanks to a twist I did not see coming.
Exactly, how many times has tarn been accused of being a nobody and a thug? Turns out he's exactly what everyone said he was.
Honestly it comes down to everyone falling in love with the DJD and getting their hopes up on something that really didn't need to be. I've never been a fan of the DJD. They've always been something I've never cared for and it's mostly due to the fandom blowing them out of proportion. Someone sneezes in the comic and 3 people on message boards scream "ITS BECAUSE OF THE DJD!!!"
It got tiresome for me
Despite not entirely agreeing here - I think there was some legitimate reason to appreciate a new big bad in the stories - I do agree with you that the 'nobody-ness' of Tarn plays well into that side of things. I don't think it's to spite the readers or fans, but it does address the overhype phenomenon within the story itself.
That said, and as MrBlack points out, Glitch is not entirely a nobody.
Also. Also. Can we talk about Ravage? And those three panels of Soundwave being hurt to his precious core?
MemphisR56 wrote:Aaaaand we get another panel with Nautica overwrought in the background, weeping for her fallen kitty friend ravage. Not to mention the panels with Soundwave feeling his death and crumbling to his knees.
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