ZeroWolf wrote: though I think fetishism is a strong word.
ZeroWolf wrote:Okay, let's see if I can do this without the 503 error.
ZeroWolf wrote:Now as for your second point, if they know they can keep churning out the same toy and it sells. They would be crazy not to keep selling them. Who has the "fetish" the people who make these toys or the ones who gladly keep buying them.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:How so?
The whole idea of this thread is to pitch ideas for a new continuity. Something unique.
Both Autobots and Decepticons, throughout fiction, have had multiple leaders. Some of them more successful than Prime and Megatron. IDWverse explored the only thing left to explore in Megatron, as a heroic figure, Prime is the same in everything.
So maybe a Reboot would benefit from pushing them both into the background (as we can't get rid of them completely, post-Sunbow). Perhaps Star Saber leads the good fight against the forces of Straxus? Springer and The Wreckers battle Tripredacus?
For any given comic, they typically have access to the full toy box of the entire series. Maybe it's time to start dipping in a bit deeper from Day One?
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:How so?
The whole idea of this thread is to pitch ideas for a new continuity. Something unique.
Both Autobots and Decepticons, throughout fiction, have had multiple leaders. Some of them more successful than Prime and Megatron. IDWverse explored the only thing left to explore in Megatron, as a heroic figure, Prime is the same in everything.
So maybe a Reboot would benefit from pushing them both into the background (as we can't get rid of them completely, post-Sunbow). Perhaps Star Saber leads the good fight against the forces of Straxus? Springer and The Wreckers battle Tripredacus?
For any given comic, they typically have access to the full toy box of the entire series. Maybe it's time to start dipping in a bit deeper from Day One?
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:No one in Transformers is as overexposed as Prime and Megatron.
All I'm saying is shuffle the deck. There are hundreds of Transformers. You make characters popular by using and promoting them.
Of course, let's not forget that both Hasbro and Takara have killed off Megatron and Prime before, replacing them with better characters.
It wasn't "retarded" then, although the OTT backlash to that was questionable...
The gist I'm getting here is you're either a fan of Transformers or a fan of Optimus Prime, which again, is insane.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I want to preface this by saying I said better Characters, not Leaders.
Galvatron, being Mad, perhaps wasn't the best leader. But he was a better character. Rodimus, The Chosen One by The Matrix itself, is canonically The Leader of the Autobots by the end of the War, in most continuities. That would technically make him the better leader. Finishing something Prime was incapable of doing.
BW Megatron also conquered Cybertron singlehandedly, he is the most successful Megatron because he actually got stuff done. He is also a much better character than his G1 counterpart, because he has depth.
I wouldn't have a clue about the Takara Series characters. Then again, they finished their Wars. Prime and Megatron never did.
ZeroWolf wrote:Bw megatron is downright ruthless and unlike megatron in the animated movie, we found out exactly how he conquered cybertron and brought it to heel. Idw is the best megatron to me, g1 toon megatron is just a standard Saturday morning villain.
Also I much prefer Ginrai to op any day of the week. Also animated did a nice take on Optimus, and it gave ultra magnus the chance st leadership he deserved...and a nice big hammer.
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