ScottyP wrote:The only time it bugs me is when characters that could drive or fly run towards their destination instead. I think the answer to the rest is just authors focusing on making a good story first. I could argue the point further but I think it's probably futile.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:But the characters are their altmodes. It's literally their defining visual trait. In most continuities, Prime/Ultra Magnus/Motormaster are trucks, Dinobots are Techno-dinosaurs etc etc You can't ignore an association so blatant and synonymous without betraying the integrating of the series you are writing for. EG TMNT without them being Turtles, Visionaries without Magic Totems and Staffs
You could argue this is related to the reasons for the reset, given it's symptomatic of a divergence from the source material not enough fans were onboard with? In equal measure, why this reimaging of Visionaries failed to garner interest.
ZeroWolf wrote:End of the day, we should want these characters to be more than these gimmicks. If you're happy with that then I guess that's your prerogative but it's not mine.
That's why I didn't really press it further, I think folks that like the stories just see a lack of super frequent transformations as a minor annoyance while those that don't use it to throw fuel on a hate-fire that I can't extinguish. Lots of folks are, for various reasons, apparently just done with this iteration of Transformers. That's fine. But I don't think "they don't transform enough" did that for anyone. I can't think of any comics iteration of Transformers that had the characters transforming back and forth constantly.Rodimus Knight wrote:ScottyP wrote:The only time it bugs me is when characters that could drive or fly run towards their destination instead. I think the answer to the rest is just authors focusing on making a good story first. I could argue the point further but I think it's probably futile.
I would like this argument more, if you know, the stories were good.
ScottyP wrote:That's why I didn't really press it further, I think folks that like the stories just see a lack of super frequent transformations as a minor annoyance while those that don't use it to throw fuel on a hate-fire that I can't extinguish. Lots of folks are, for various reasons, apparently just done with this iteration of Transformers. That's fine. But I don't think "they don't transform enough" did that for anyone. I can't think of any comics iteration of Transformers that had the characters transforming back and forth constantly.Rodimus Knight wrote:ScottyP wrote:The only time it bugs me is when characters that could drive or fly run towards their destination instead. I think the answer to the rest is just authors focusing on making a good story first. I could argue the point further but I think it's probably futile.
I would like this argument more, if you know, the stories were good.
Anyway, I gotta start moving on and not responding when I see the folks pissing on the grave site for IDW's Transformers
ZeroWolf wrote:Come on, we both know that the Totems wouldn't have saved this series. The flaws go much deeper than that.
ZeroWolf wrote: Also, the transformers do transform in the series, I thought it was the right amount (other people's opinions may vary). I don't want panels wasted because people think they need more shots of alt modes. If an alt mode scene is unnecessary then cut it. If they transform for the sake of it, cut it. Transformations should always serve the plot, to the point where if they interfere with it, drop them. I don't read Transformers just to see them transform, nor does it bother me if they don't. I read Transformers because I like the characters and want to see what's going on, in times of peace and (because we all know that the new continuity will be set either at the start of the war or during) in times of war.
ZeroWolf wrote:I must say though, the original line must have had an impact for you to care this much about it when most others just shrugged their shoulders.
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