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Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:29 pm

Burn wrote:
QuietStorm wrote:Remember when the Energon Crossbow was the most sought after weapon of the game?


Know the fun thing about the EC change?

It wasn't done retroactively which meant there were a bunch of old style EC crossbows still running around. I still have one, but it pales in comparrison to the other weapons out there now.


I've still got one of the original Fusion Cannons I think... :-?

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Postby Burn » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:34 pm

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The power of the Fusion Cannon wasn't changed though. Just the requirements.

If I recall though (the few times I used one before the change), they weren't that good. Missed regulary and didn't do much damage.
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Postby lkavadas » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:47 pm

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This is disappointing. Alts mean nothing in the long run while maintaining our current broken weapon system indefinitely just frustrates more than people than it sates.

How could a few gif images honestly trump the biggest broken aspect of the game?

Please reconsider.
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Postby LuckytheWonderLlama » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:21 pm

And restocking the Armory has only exacerbated the problem. Now we are going to have even more broken weapons running around.

Well, at least the few will have their precious Altmodes.

You people do realized that if there is a total reset for V2 that you are going to lose your altmodes anyways?

Backwards. Totaly bass ackwards.
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Postby Black Guardian » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:33 pm

How many weapon changes have there been in the past, if ECs were altered at some point?

LuckytheWonderLlama wrote:Backwards. Totaly bass ackwards.


I see your arguments are as well-presented as usual, Lucky. :P
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Postby LuckytheWonderLlama » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:44 pm

Black Guardian wrote:How many weapon changes have there been in the past, if ECs were altered at some point?

LuckytheWonderLlama wrote:Backwards. Totaly bass ackwards.


I see your arguments are as well-presented as usual, Lucky. :P


Sometimes them high falutin' words just don't cut it.
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Postby Reverberon » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:49 pm

Omega Sentinel wrote:While we are at it, let's make this thread a weapons/alts suggestion thread....


weapons suggestions? Before i make any I'd like to know if you mean just random weapon name + stat requirements/damage range. Will there ever be weapons that cause effects? IE. poisonous paralyzer fluids causing some stun?(like to the effect of a ram at str 1) weapons could get really specialized and funky if those kinds of effects were introduced.
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Postby Supercollider » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:53 pm

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LuckytheWonderLlama wrote:And restocking the Armory has only exacerbated the problem. Now we are going to have even more broken weapons running around.

Well, at least the few will have their precious Altmodes.

You people do realized that if there is a total reset for V2 that you are going to lose your altmodes anyways?

Backwards. Totaly bass ackwards.

You can blame me for that Lucky - I asked for a restock of x-rays for the newbie's since the weapon change wasn't going to happen yet.

Reverberon wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:While we are at it, let's make this thread a weapons/alts suggestion thread....


weapons suggestions? Before i make any I'd like to know if you mean just random weapon name + stat requirements/damage range. Will there ever be weapons that cause effects? IE. poisonous paralyzer fluids causing some stun?(like to the effect of a ram at str 1) weapons could get really specialized and funky if those kinds of effects were introduced.

Yeah Cool! *Reaches for listing of Final Fantasy Status ailments and starts rearranging for mechinical beings...*
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Postby Black Guardian » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:30 pm

Reverberon wrote:Will there ever be weapons that cause effects? IE. poisonous paralyzer fluids causing some stun?(like to the effect of a ram at str 1) weapons could get really specialized and funky if those kinds of effects were introduced.


I think OS actually did mention the possibility of PPFs actually paralysing people. Which would be COOL.

Re-stocking the armoury is always a problem. I already had all the Dols I probably need, but I will admit to getting some BBs for use in the future. The speed at which they all sell-out is absurd though. I mean people must be sat on God knows how many of the things. But I suppose if everyone buys 12 each the numbers soon deplete...
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Postby .op. » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:35 pm

Thanks for the restock OS. Having some weapons to buy that we couldn't before is much appreciated You have been doing alot in your short time with the position and it is appreciated as well.
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Postby Traks » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:40 pm

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Nice work OS. Now some people that were missing the "wanted" weapons will have a chance to get their hands on them.
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Postby Snoball » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:42 pm

Well dispite what others may think, I think it was a great idea to restock the weapons, it puts everyone on the same playing field, Thanks OS :grin:
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Postby Tifereth » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:44 pm

Thanks OS, great job! :)
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Postby Dragonslayer » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:45 pm

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Keep up the good work, dude! ;)^
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Postby Redimus » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:50 pm

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LuckytheWonderLlama wrote:And restocking the Armory has only exacerbated the problem. Now we are going to have even more broken weapons running around.

Well, at least the few will have their precious Altmodes.

You people do realized that if there is a total reset for V2 that you are going to lose your altmodes anyways?

Backwards. Totaly bass ackwards.

Yes. Yes we do. But we lose EVERYTHING ELSE in the V2 reset. Personally, I didnt see any reason for me to have to reset any of mine, even the brawlers (they still got ram) after the weapons change. But I can understand how some would want to.

I dont see why we'd need a mini reset now, and another PROPER reset few months down the line when V2 comes along.

I was looking forward to the new weapon system.
I am also looking foward to the reset at V2 and the chance to start again.

I personally wasnt very keen on losing my xmas tournie alts until the V2 reset, nor was i happy with a stat reset, mostly cuase I didnt want to rebuild em all again.
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Postby Burn » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:07 pm

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I wonder what people would say if they were told that V2 is never going to happen. :-?
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Postby LuckytheWonderLlama » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:13 pm

Burn wrote:I wonder what people would say if they were told that V2 is never going to happen. :-?


If the Altmoders keep insisting we add new coats of paint to a rotting frame, it never will.
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Postby Burn » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:17 pm

Motto: "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings to randomly click things in the Admin Panel to see what it breaks."
Well i'll tell ya now. It's been decided that V2 is NOT going to happen.
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Postby LuckytheWonderLlama » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:21 pm

Interesting. :-?
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Postby Silverbolt » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:23 pm

I could see why it wouldn't happen.

If people raise this much of a stink over losing some alts I'd hate to see how much they'd raise over losing everything.

Its already been noted that players would quit, a large enough number that it would at least give someone a pause before doing anything.

I for one would like to see the game somewhat corrected in this form before any thoughts of V2 were even considered.

Get a working weapons system in place for one, while you have a very large multi-leveled pool of bots that could test it to make sure that it works fully.

Basically do it as much piece meal as possible testing all the way till you have what you could call V2 in place and at that time decide whether or not a reset is necessary.

If at that point its only done to level the playing field then I'm sorry I don't see much of a point, the most active will quickly outstrip those that aren't and we'll be somewhat right back to where we are now.

I also like to think that for the most part the players around now got their points the honest way instead of cheating or using flaws in the game.
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Postby Redimus » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:24 pm

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Burn wrote:Well i'll tell ya now. It's been decided that V2 is NOT going to happen.
Note the lack of smiley.


I suspect it'll change some people's minds. Of course it would have helped if people were told this earlier.

Making a decision is a LOT easier with all the information.

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Postby Burn » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:41 pm

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Redimus wrote:If you're taking the piss, then jolly bad show old man.


Well i'm only taking the piss a little.

Here's the full story.

V2 is no longer V2. It will be called something else, that something has yet to be decided.

So until such time that it's decided V2 shall not be referred to as V2 but rather "The future version of HMW which was formally known as V2".

:grin:
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Postby Venomous Prime » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:44 pm

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Postby LuckytheWonderLlama » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:51 pm

Burn wrote:
Redimus wrote:If you're taking the piss, then jolly bad show old man.


Well i'm only taking the piss a little.

Here's the full story.

V2 is no longer V2. It will be called something else, that something has yet to be decided.

So until such time that it's decided V2 shall not be referred to as V2 but rather "The future version of HMW which was formally known as V2".

:grin:


Yay! New management, same cryptic nonsense. This is exactly what we needed.
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:57 pm

LuckytheWonderLlama wrote:Yay! New management, same cryptic nonsense. This is exactly what we needed.


Good to know that I'm not alone in feeling like that...


Silverbolt wrote:Get a working weapons system in place for one, while you have a very large multi-leveled pool of bots that could test it to make sure that it works fully.


I think this is an exceptionally good point.
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