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Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Ruthless Cynic wrote:El Duque,
If my memory is accurate, and it is not always, I believe that Hasbro or Takara purchased a factory from Bandai that included the rights/license to use the mold. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Gripen1974 wrote:I am all for KOs for it feel allot bestter to do custom work on those then do it on a real deal.
Gripen1974 wrote:BowspearerKOTOYS was just a reseller
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Counterpunch wrote:Geekee1 wrote:And here's where I'm going to say a very unpopular sentiment. If you can't afford a figure that you want, tough ****! There are plenty of figures that I want for my collection but can't afford, too bad for me. I am in no way entitled to any of them and neither are you. Suck it up.
Word.
Swindle01 wrote:
Kotoys gave us fantastic items such as the clear transparent classics coneheads - botcon SG rodimus (that we can all AFFORD) - Gentei Wildrider (Again that we can ALL afford) - SG optimus prime (again all afford) and dozens and dozens of other figures that we could all afford cheaper than having to pay those bastards Hasbro 80+ for a figure that would be £10 at normal retail
this is a very very sad day and its real sad that alot of you keyboard warriors sit there in your chairs acting all high and mighty when mikes done nothing but OFFER you guys a choice. Hasbro didnt offer us these choices yet HE did, even if you didnt like him you still HAD the CHOICE of buying the item you wanted off him OR via ebay as ive seen alot of kotoys stuff on ebay.
The fact hasbro screws mike over on kos when hasbro makes millions everyday but then gives us bullshit like CONSTANT movie Bumblebees is just sickening and insulting
Kung Fu Man wrote:They were getting pretty blatantly up there in Hasbro's face, using first the autobot/decep logos, then the official names, and then the packaging. :\
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
It Is Him wrote:Does anyone else find it ironic that a user named Swindle01 is defending KOToys?
Also, KOToys' owner is an antisemitic dick. F that guy and his "products."
Swindle01 wrote:i dont understand why some of you guys are being royal dicks about kotoys
-SNIP-
this is a very very sad day and its real sad that alot of you keyboard warriors sit there in your chairs acting all high and mighty
Swindle01 wrote:i think some of you are missing the point - these are TOYS - a TOY shouldnt have to cost 200-300 especially considering alot of the things kotoys gave us were direct repaints of things. Im sorry but i shouldnt have to pay 200+ for just a black classics rodimus with a freddie mercury goatie
Swindle01 wrote:the point is (which i think your missing) kotoys gave you a CHOICE - if you dont like kotoys then thats fine and if you dont like kos thats fine to.
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Bowspearer wrote:At the risk of turning myself into a pariah in the fandom again, I have a confession to make. After I got banned from KO Toys' forums for voicing concerns over there being no intentionally built in differences between the KO Dino cassettes they were making and the genuine article, I did an IP check and found out their website was hosted in the US. About a week and a half ago, I used the international minutes on my mobile to report them the Hasbro, including giving them their IP address, hosting company (which is based in Michigan) and website address. Looks like they acted pretty swiftly on this one.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I would not have minded some differences on the KO Dinocassettes to distinguish them from the real ones. Tampoed graphics instead of stickers springs to mind. I also went out and got the real Slam Dance and Squawk Box so I wouldn't get fooled by KOs later on.
I dunno if reporting their IP to Hasbro is what did it. An earlier post in this thread claims it was their reproducing Funpub Punch/Counterpunch that did the trick.
It Is Him wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I would not have minded some differences on the KO Dinocassettes to distinguish them from the real ones. Tampoed graphics instead of stickers springs to mind. I also went out and got the real Slam Dance and Squawk Box so I wouldn't get fooled by KOs later on.
I dunno if reporting their IP to Hasbro is what did it. An earlier post in this thread claims it was their reproducing Funpub Punch/Counterpunch that did the trick.
The owner of KOToys has delusions of grandeur and is possibly schizophrenic. He probably sees himself as some kind of badass rebel against IP law. No one really knows the real reason why KOToys is being taken down but Hasbro and its lawyers.
The part about P/CP is speculation. If it were true, Hasbro would have likely acted quicker when KO SG Prime was announced, so under further scrutiny, this idea doesn't hold a lot of water. Beryllium Baloney.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Bowspearer wrote:Swindle01 wrote:i dont understand why some of you guys are being royal dicks about kotoys
-SNIP-
this is a very very sad day and its real sad that alot of you keyboard warriors sit there in your chairs acting all high and mighty
Now let's take off the rose coloured glasses from that post and get real. I have a personal axe to grind against KOs and these guys for multiple reasons.
To begin with, having almost been burned on a "Scepial" Beachcomber (only being saved by a Paypal dispute), I know how easy it is to get caught out by a fake when someone passes it off as the real thing. In that case, it was the eBay seller who got screwed over, believing they were selling a genuine article.
Secondly, there were rumblings about reproducing the Godmasters on the forums. Now I'm a university student, money is not something I have alot of. Yet I sacrificed to buy all 3 MISB on eBay. What happens if I ever need to sell them for emergency funds (which would only be done when I had no other alternative) and there are fakes out there that are almost identical to the originals right down to the packaging?
Thirdly they were going into rare figures that are grail pieces for me. The Dino cassettes are a "someday" purchase, but Slamdance and Beastbox are a different story. In fact I rushed out and bought a Slamdance having to find money I didn't have just so I wasn't screwed over down the track by a fake.
If you can't see that your precious "choice" (read dodgy selfishness) screws over not only HasTak but collectors, then I hate to break it to you, but we're not the ones who are "being royal dicks" here.Swindle01 wrote:i think some of you are missing the point - these are TOYS - a TOY shouldnt have to cost 200-300 especially considering alot of the things kotoys gave us were direct repaints of things. Im sorry but i shouldnt have to pay 200+ for just a black classics rodimus with a freddie mercury goatie
No, the person who completely missed the point here is you. If you want cheap toys, go to TRU. The fact is that in the time since you were a child (although tbbh, your attitude here has been remarkably immature), the toys we grew up with became antiques and collectors items, with the toy line both being marketed at children, and in some cases, adult collectors.
Don't want to pay $200+ for a convention exclusive, then source one at a convention. It's that simple.Swindle01 wrote:the point is (which i think your missing) kotoys gave you a CHOICE - if you dont like kotoys then thats fine and if you dont like kos thats fine to.
Yes because reproducing G1 figures right down to the packaging doesn't give scalpers a free pass to rip people off, or screw people wanting originals over at all does it? But hey, I suppose those who own want rare pieces only have themselves to blame for being the target of scammers too, don't they?![]()
You want choice? Do what the rest of us do when we want a rare piece- wait for a bargain or save and sacrifice- there's a choice right there. Alternately, go without, there's another choice for you. What do you know, you don't need KO Toys to give you choice as a collector at all do you?
Tidalwavex wrote:BTW,It's extremly selfish to hate kotoys because they made ko toys out of exspensive tf toys that you own. it's a selfish act because other fans deserve the right to buy these ko's TF toys for much cheaper prices. not everyone wants to nor can afford the high secondary prices for the liscensed TF toys.
who cares if tf fans with exspensive stuff get their stuff devalued because of reissues,ko's or re-releases. I don't care,i love it when this happens. THESE ARE TOYS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE ENJOYED BY AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. not by only a select few. These tf toys were never meant to make others jealous or to make others pay beyond high secondary prices.
Burn wrote:I think it's extremely selfish of me that I have to eat every day, pay my electricity bill, insurances, put petrol in my car, oh and pay the mortgage.
I deserve to not have to pay for any of that! Can you suggest a way I can do it cheaper?
Burn wrote:You fool. It's not just about the exclusive stuff. It's also about KO original hard to find toys. Some of us actually want genuine Hasbro/Takara figures in our collection.
Burn wrote:And as for these toys being enjoyed by as many as possible. Blow it out your backside mate. There's plenty of toy stores you can walk into to find TF's for people to enjoy. These exclusives add another level to the COLLECTORS.
Selfish? The only selfish ones are people like you who scream that all figures should be created equal.
No.
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