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I'm not ready to give Maketoy a free pass on quality just because FP supports them. And there's something to be said for the old adage "biting off more than you can chew".

That said, I'm still willing to get their Devestator, funds permitting. It passes the eye test and that's all it really needs from me.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm not ready to give Maketoy a free pass on quality just because FP supports them. And there's something to be said for the old adage "biting off more than you can chew".

And neither am I. My opinion that they will most likely be similar quality is based on seeing them in person at Botcon. Barring the deciding to produce them in a different plastic between then and release, of course.

Midnight_Fox wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:

Requiem Prime wrote:Even worse than everyone's hopes and fears about the price is the timeline. Don't forget MT has 3 other announced projects, with more minibots being the natural progression. Given the (alleged) price difference, I know it's shrewd to steal some of TFC's thunder, but I'll be very sad if the Build set is years down the road when it wouldn't have mattered financially. Especially if it knee-capps Hercules' would be success. Don't say it's unlikely, they do have FP ties after all.

Then again; FP made a schedule (and technically held it), iGear's making their own designs, TFC is shooting big right now, and PE teased they were too with a Soundwave. Who really knows anything more?

I'd imagine MakeToy's lines will run parallel just as FP's Parallax & Crossfire lines did.

I'd venture that's a good guess, since they had working unpainted prototypes of both the minibots and the G2 OP Trailer set at botcon. Looked to be the same materials that FP was using with the products sitting right next to it, too.

I'd say it's a reasonable assumption the quality of MT products will equal or be near to FP products.

Agreed.

I wish I could have seen them in person at BotCon.

That's much more credible than simply saying FP's affiliate = quality.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:That's much more credible than simply saying FP's affiliate = quality.

I wasn't saying either way. I'm simply speculating. In my mind, being affiliated with the best third party company is a reason to expect the best, not worst.

I know this is an assumption, but I figured IF FP is backing these guys, then the quality of their product is good. I mean hell, if K.O.'s are being bought, then why not give these guys a chance anyways. As for time- I'm not in a rush, myself. I kind of figured that the first one would be available for preorder until next year. That gives me enough time to save up as I'm X-Mas shopping.......

I'm still sticking with Hercules because well... MT hasn't come out with anything and I haven't had any problems myself with TFC's products.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm still sticking with Hercules because well... MT hasn't come out with anything and I haven't had any problems myself with TFC's products.

Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

I am just anxious to see the last two members of the TFC Devastator.

amcgrath929 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm still sticking with Hercules because well... MT hasn't come out with anything and I haven't had any problems myself with TFC's products.

Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

I am just anxious to see the last two members of the TFC Devastator.

No, sorry. I own both their GoW sets. The first one does have the slight problem of the chrome being a bit too thick, but I don't fire off missiles so them sticking together like that is a plus for me. And their second one is just sick. Not a problem in that set and it's just great all-around.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'm still sticking with Hercules because well... MT hasn't come out with anything and I haven't had any problems myself with TFC's products.

Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

I am just anxious to see the last two members of the TFC Devastator.

No, sorry. I own both their GoW sets. The first one does have the slight problem of the chrome being a bit too thick, but I don't fire off missiles so them sticking together like that is a plus for me. And their second one is just sick. Not a problem in that set and it's just great all-around.

Oh nice. I'd love to have the Grapple upgrades from the first set.

amcgrath929 wrote:Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

Danger! Danger! Abort! Abort!

That figure SUCKS. I had him for a week before selling him for half of what I paid for him just to get rid of him.

Loose joints, no support, I called him Flop-Bot

Mkall wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

Danger! Danger! Abort! Abort!

That figure SUCKS. I had him for a week before selling him for half of what I paid for him just to get rid of him.

Loose joints, no support, I called him Flop-Bot

Haha uh oh. Too late to abort here lol. I bought him off eBay from a guy that said he had tight joints. I only paid $30 so we will see what happens.

amcgrath929 wrote:

Mkall wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

Danger! Danger! Abort! Abort!

That figure SUCKS. I had him for a week before selling him for half of what I paid for him just to get rid of him.

Loose joints, no support, I called him Flop-Bot

Haha uh oh. Too late to abort here lol. I bought him off eBay from a guy that said he had tight joints. I only paid $30 so we will see what happens.

I wish you luck then

Mkall wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:

Mkall wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Do you have the Battle Rollar? I just bought it and I'm hoping for the best.

Danger! Danger! Abort! Abort!

That figure SUCKS. I had him for a week before selling him for half of what I paid for him just to get rid of him.

Loose joints, no support, I called him Flop-Bot

Haha uh oh. Too late to abort here lol. I bought him off eBay from a guy that said he had tight joints. I only paid $30 so we will see what happens.

I wish you luck then

Thanks man. Hopefully I am the exception, not the rule lol

My Battle Roller was a little loose... and I guess my complaint is it feels more like a model kit... slightly fragile and thin. You can definitely tell it's an adult collectible and not an official toy. It displays well, though. I can't gripe as long as the quality, detail/sculpt are up to specs. It feeling light or a little loose is a very minor complaint.

As applies to Build-Devastator... I'll be really glad when we can hear from reviewers on BOTH these guys. Just having someone say it "feels" right will say volumes.

Hey, I haven't posted here in a long long time and was wondering if anyone has heard any projected release dates for any of the Build figures??

As for that matter, any word on the minibots???


From what I can see, I like the aesthetic of the individual robots for the Maketoys Devastator better. I think of those guys being more lean, lanky-looking bots. And the combined form looks on point. I'm anxious to see images that show the whole head/face.
The scale of Hercules is really appealing, but I'm not at all impressed with the look of Exgraver... Even though I actually dig that the wrist/hand are part of the figure, I'm one of those people who are more concerned about the appearance of bot mode rather than alt mode. I look at that figure, and it's pretty 'mehhhh'. And it actually made it worse once I saw photos of its scale compared to other figures. In terms of being a limb, the scale of it is cool. Otherwise, I won't be able to justify the cost. I'm pretty sure it's going to take a hugely positive impression from the final combined Hercules photos to change my mind. I guess we'll see.

Just WHEN is this beast coming out?

Xephon0930 wrote:Just WHEN is this beast coming out?

No one really knows. However if it's in prototype stage, I would think before Feb of next year.

I can't vouch for the validity of this, but according to a post on TFW:

I contacted Maketoys and I received their official reply surprisingly:

Height: approx. 400mm
Price: 30,000 to 40,000 yen (I assume that's for all six bots... Better be!)
Release date: 2012 (No time frame specified)

But by the pic, I think it is a bit short of 400mm.

Take it for what it's worth...

Kibble wrote:Price: 30,000 to 40,000 yen (I assume that's for all six bots... Better be!)

Looks like it ain't going to be THAT cheaper than Hercules, after all...

So it's 15.7 inches? That's quite a bit taller then Unicron. and slightly cheaper at 520$ if it's 40,000yen. although less affordable if it's the entire kit all at once.

Do we know TFC Herc's combined height measurement yet?

Keep in mind that MakeToy info could be wrong...

Hercules will be approx. 12 inches from head to toe. About the same height as a TF United deluxe package.

Kibble wrote:Keep in mind that MakeToy info could be wrong...

Hercules will be approx. 12 inches from head to toe. About the same height as a TF United deluxe package.

That cannot be right. Maketoy is promising to be in scale (and proportion) with FansProject Colossus because they're sticking to scout scale. There is no way Exgraver is on something only a foot tall.

Hercules has been advertised by TFC to be 30cm on one of their earliest preview 'posters'. The TF United box is 12". The pic shows the Hecules prototype being about the same size as the box...not sure what there is to dispute there.

Now the email claiming MakeToy's fig being 40cm despite them releasing pics of it with Bruticus, that I can see disputing.

My mind cannot comprehend how the MT version will be bigger than the TFC one...