The UK comic was still somewhat reliant on the US comic at the time. By the time Death's Head was introduced in the UK, Afterburner had already been introduced in the US two months earlier, and so the UK comics were working to not contradict what was going on the US issues at the time.Diem wrote:Rated X wrote:This thing could have been in every G1 comic, and I still wouldnt buy it. Its so Marvelish. I hate super heroes/villians and am so glad the sunbow cartoon didnt go that route.
I agree, though my personal objection of him was that in a universe full of already surprisingly well-established characters they had to introduce this guy. If they needed an ill-tempered lunatic to chase Galvatron through time what exactly was, say, Afterburner doing that was so important he couldn't fill this role.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
mblase75 wrote:Can someone familiar with the character tell me why Death's Head is human-sized when fighting human characters in the comics, and Transformers-sized when fighting Transformers?
Seibertron wrote:mblase75 wrote:Can someone familiar with the character tell me why Death's Head is human-sized when fighting human characters in the comics, and Transformers-sized when fighting Transformers?
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Also, about the Sunbow cartoon not having super heroes/villains in it, yes, it totally did. Only they weren't humans. They were the Transformers themselves. The Autobots and Decepticons were so painfully obvious super heroes and super villains to the people of Earth in that cartoon. Take the old Superfriends cartoon, turn them and the Legion of Doom into giant transforming robots instead of humans/humanoids, and there's hardly any difference between them.
Seibertron wrote:
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
MGrotusque wrote:Seibertron wrote:
Dr Who came along and shrunk Death's Head from being a Transformers sized character to a human sized character and sent him off from the Transformers Universe to the Marvel Universe.
This is mind boggling to me! I was NOT expecting to see Dr. Who show up in this thread. I want that comic as i'm a huge Dr.Who fan. What was the issue number and what Dr??
This is very exciting for me now and that DH fig looks great. They did a good job on that sculpt.
What's more is that the same goes for the human/non-TF villains in the G1 cartoon. Dr. Arkeville, for instance, fits the classic "evil scientist with mind control technology" supervillain role almost too well. King Nergill is the classic "evil king of an inhuman kingdom." TORQ III is the classic "computer AI gone mad". Kremzeek is the classic "accidental chaotic energy monster". Abdul Fakkadi is the classic "militaristic dictator of a foreign nation." Etc.Diem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, about the Sunbow cartoon not having super heroes/villains in it, yes, it totally did. Only they weren't humans. They were the Transformers themselves. The Autobots and Decepticons were so painfully obvious super heroes and super villains to the people of Earth in that cartoon. Take the old Superfriends cartoon, turn them and the Legion of Doom into giant transforming robots instead of humans/humanoids, and there's hardly any difference between them.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the writers had superheroes on the mind. "This one can teleport! This one has super strength! This one can create illusions!"
Not that that wound up being a bad thing.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
Sabrblade wrote:What's more is that the same goes for the human/non-TF villains in the G1 cartoon. Dr. Arkeville, for instance, fits the classic "evil scientist with mind control technology" supervillain role almost too well. King Nergill is the classic "evil king of an inhuman kingdom." TORQ III is the classic "computer AI gone mad". Kremzeek is the classic "accidental chaotic energy monster". Abdul Fakkadi is the classic "militaristic dictator of a foreign nation." Etc.Diem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, about the Sunbow cartoon not having super heroes/villains in it, yes, it totally did. Only they weren't humans. They were the Transformers themselves. The Autobots and Decepticons were so painfully obvious super heroes and super villains to the people of Earth in that cartoon. Take the old Superfriends cartoon, turn them and the Legion of Doom into giant transforming robots instead of humans/humanoids, and there's hardly any difference between them.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the writers had superheroes on the mind. "This one can teleport! This one has super strength! This one can create illusions!"
Not that that wound up being a bad thing.
And some of the others match up with more well known supervillains:By comparison, Death's Head is hardly all that different. Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
- Lord Chumley -- Kraven the Hunter
- Shawn Berger -- Lex Luthor
- Victor Drath -- The Kingpin
- Old Snake is Cobra Commander
One could even argue that he's practically like what Nightbird was, only with a personality/life/career of his own, and not built by humans (but he was still built by someone, nonetheless). Or like Nijika before she was damaged. Or like NUL-A from "The Ultimate Weapon" (if he too was created by someone).
Was mostly referring to his term in the TFUK comics.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Was mostly referring to his term in the TFUK comics.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
I didn't think it was necessary since his term in the TF comics was the primary fiction-related thing that was being discussed in this thread in the first place.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Was mostly referring to his term in the TFUK comics.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, again, he isn't even a superhero or supervillain, anyway. He's a robotic bounty hunter.
He's a member MI:13, he's a comic book character that's fought alongside and against other superheroes, he's both.
Probably should have stated that then!
In which case, he's a super-villain.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Outside of the TF comics, yes, but could you explain how he's a villain in the TF comics?Burn wrote:Oops. My bad.
He's still a super-villain. >:oP
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Only cuz he was promised to get paid for it. Rodimus then paid him to hunt down Cyclonus and Scourge. He then fought against Unicron alongside Rodimus, for free.Burn wrote:He briefly hunted Rodimus Prime. Hunting the good guy tends to make you a villain. >:oP
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Is being a Mary Sue villainous enough?Sabrblade wrote:Outside of the TF comics, yes, but could you explain how he's a villain in the TF comics?Burn wrote:Oops. My bad.
He's still a super-villain. >:oP
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
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