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Like Evolution Prime on Facebook · by **Evolution Prime** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:34 am

I know. I still haven't seen one show up though.

News Credits: 2 · by **Wingspan** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:37 am

Evolution Prime wrote:I know. I still haven't seen one show up though.

Psychout suggested including the Arena in round 5 for G1 only (like they did in the scalp) to which I asked how it should score. If agreed, beasts would remain unchanged, but some input is still needed.

Let's move the discussion over to the chatter where this discussion began. (Link)

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:52 am

Score it 1-for-1, mission kills count double?

...I dunno, just throwing ideas out currently.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:14 am

I cant see that working very well. If only one side stands to gain from arena bouts, only that side will bother to turn up. Admitedly, there's plenty of billy-no-mates who live in there and dont read the forums or do anything else comunity related...

I know this has been whinged about repeatedly, but surly it'd take OS all of 5 seconds to up the chances of G1 vs beast missions, becuase that's the only real way to get a fair representation in Beast vs G1 tournie right now.

News Credits: 9 · by **Editor** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:16 am

In that entire range I saw a single beast/G1 mission.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:26 am

Fearless Echoes wrote:I know this has been whinged about repeatedly...

We've got what we've got until V2 now, that's just the way it is dude.

Its one-on-one rammer combat that will have to decide this.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:03 pm

Well Im sorry, but the G1 factions can count me off their target list... I dont see why I should go in the arena when they can can claim *any* kill, and I can claimn no kills. If you want this to be in anyway balanced, it has to be all or nothing.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:35 pm

Oh, dont get me wrong Red, I completely agree with you, I dont think it cant be scored the same way either.

Problem is, the best I can think of right now is that we only count fights between registered charcters on all sides and score it from there, or we start as a full team and have our minions knocked out one by one, but both of those present xp and level problems, althouhg they could be solved by enacting 'weight categories' similar to UFC/boxing etc.

I dunno im still not that keen, can anyone else think of another suggestion?

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:38 pm

Why cant the bots n cons not just bash the crap out of eachother too? The they can have all G1 missions ending with 0 or 5 count as well, and the game is naturally balanced. Sure, a bit or rwwriting is needed in the story, but it makes for a fairer game (and means we can either have cross era missions being worth 2 points for whichever side wins it, or have cross era missions being worth no more than normal missions for both sides).

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:46 pm

That works for me, but considering their frequency I'd figure cross-gen would be worth more than 2.

Wingspan?
Everyone else?

I think I know how this could fit into the story too.

News Credits: 2 · by **Wingspan** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:52 pm

I am not tracking missions which lacked opposition these final rounds. Frankly, it's just a little too much

Full mission listings follow, broken up by winners. Other tallies will follow shortly.

Autobot Wins (7)

63365 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Predacon}
63370 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63443 (Autobot) {4 v 1 Predacon}
63580 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63685 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Maximal}
63885 (Autobot) {4 v 4 Predacon}
63984 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Predacon}

Decepticon Wins (3)

63487 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63564 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63822 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Predacon}

Maximal G1 Wins (4)

63388 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63493 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63734 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Autobot}
63841 (Maximal) {4 v 3 Decepticon}

Predacon G1 Wins (2)

63182 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}
63749 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}

Maximal Wins (16)

63075 (Maximal) {2 v 2}
63340 (Maximal) {4 v 3}
63345 (Maximal) {3 v 2}
63410 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63430 (Maximal) {6 v 5}
63465 (Maximal) {6 v 2}
63650 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63670 (Maximal) {4 v 2}
63690 (Maximal) {5 v 6}
63710 (Maximal) {5 v 4}
63720 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63775 (Maximal) {6 v 6}
63800 (Maximal) {5 v 2}
63845 (Maximal) {6 v 2}
63910 (Maximal) {4 v 4}
63915 (Maximal) {2 v 2}

Predacon Wins (26)

63015 (Predacon) {6 v 2}
63045 (Predacon) {4 v 2}
63070 (Predacon) {5 v 3}
63095 (Predacon) {5 v 4}
63145 (Predacon) {6 v 3}
63230 (Predacon) {1 v 3}
63300 (Predacon) {3 v 2}
63495 (Predacon) {4 v 2}
63510 (Predacon) {4 v 2}
63530 (Predacon) {4 v 3}
63600 (Predacon) {4 v 4}
63675 (Predacon) {4 v 4}
63680 (Predacon) {3 v 2}
63705 (Predacon) {6 v 6}
63745 (Predacon) {5 v 5}
63780 (Predacon) {6 v 3}
63790 (Predacon) {6 v 4}
63815 (Predacon) {6 v 5}
63820 (Predacon) {6 v 2}
63850 (Predacon) {6 v 5}
63865 (Predacon) {5 v 3}
63870 (Predacon) {5 v 2}
63880 (Predacon) {5 v 3}
63965 (Predacon) {3 v 2}
63985 (Predacon) {2 v 2}
64000 (Predacon) {3 v 3}

by **vaporretarder** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:13 pm

Wingspan wrote:
Autobot Wins (7)

63365 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Predacon}
63370 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63443 (Autobot) {4 v 1 Predacon}
63580 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Maximal}
63685 (Autobot) {4 v 2 Maximal}
63885 (Autobot) {4 v 4 Predacon}
63984 (Autobot) {4 v 3 Predacon}

Decepticon Wins (3)

63487 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63564 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Maximal}
63822 (Decepticon) {4 v 4 Predacon}

Maximal G1 Wins (4)

63388 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63493 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Decepticon}
63734 (Maximal) {4 v 4 Autobot}
63841 (Maximal) {4 v 3 Decepticon}

Predacon G1 Wins (2)

63182 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}
63749 (Predacon) {3 v 4 Autobot}

DANG!!

I didn't realize there were that many cross missions that actually spawned! :shock:

at least I got to get my licks in there though :-)

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:32 pm

Cant say I saw any, then again, I cant say I spent more than 2 hours playing over the whole round.

News Credits: 2 · by **Wingspan** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:12 pm

Now that the PEBKAC has been solved... here's the final tallies. Breakdown sheets in the next post.

Round 4 Results

G1 Overall: Autobot
Autobot(10 {7 wins, 3 vs. Maximal}), Decepticon (4 {3 wins, 1 vs. Predacon})

Autobot Champions
Commander: Electron (2 mission wins)
Character: Korona, WindBreaker, Omega Annihilator, Decay (1 mission wins each)
Wasteland Slayer: Electron (3 confirmed stasis locks)

Decepticon Champions
Commander: Chronic, Omega Charge (2 mission wins each)
Character: Hammerstein (2 mission wins)
Wasteland Slayer: Chronic, Omega Charge (3 confirmed stasis locks each)

Beast Overall: Predacon
Maximal (17 {16 wins, 1 Decepticon vs. Predacon}), Predacon (29 {26 wins, 3 Autobot vs. Maximal})

Maximal Champions
Commander: Zordon (11 mission wins)
Character: Windstalker, Opium (3 mission wins each)
Wasteland Slayer: Zordon (13 confirmed stasis locks)

Predacon Champions
Commander: ChesiredaCat (14 mission wins)
Character: Hellsfury (7 mission wins)
Wasteland Slayer: ChesiredaCat (24 confirmed stasis locks)

News Credits: 2 · by **Wingspan** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:15 pm

G1 Breakdown

Beast Breakdown

Cross-Generational Stasis Confirmation

by **CheshiredaCat** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:16 am

Wingspan wrote:Now that the PEBKAC has been solved... here's the final tallies. Breakdown sheets in the next post.

Predacon Champions
Commander: ChesiredaCat (14 mission wins)
Character: Hellsfury (7 mission wins)
Wasteland Slayer: ChesiredaCat (24 confirmed stasis locks)

Hazaa!! finally some good results

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:26 am

I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

by **CheshiredaCat** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:04 pm

Fearless Echoes wrote:I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

just admit it...im awesome

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:39 pm

AZ was playing RE5 with a buddy.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:12 pm

CheshiredaCat wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

just admit it...im awesome

NEVAR!

I'd rather admit Burn has nice tits!

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:30 pm

Fearless Echoes wrote:
CheshiredaCat wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:I dunno what AZ's excuse is, but the only reason you didnt have more competition from me was that I wasnt there.

just admit it...im awesome

NEVAR!

I'd rather admit Burn has nice tits!

Well, it's true at least. Burn does. :lol: