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Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nekoman wrote:What I meant was, saying that every Soundwave from now on will be repainted into Blaster would be the same as saying that for any other character who’s been repainted.

Come on now, it's still different... None of those you even mentioned are very good examples of the point you're trying to make.

How are they not good examples? Just because a figure gets repainted as another character one time doesn’t mean that character will be a repaint of that figure from then on. It’s crazy talk.

Nekoman wrote:People are upset cause G1 Soundwave wasn’t a Blaster repaint and this one is. They’re upset cause it’s not how it was in G1, face it.

There's nothing to "face", because I truly don't believe that's the reality of it.
Even though I know there are some (but not really that many) out there that really thought/think that he should've been an updated, but still 100% G1 incarnation,
again,
I think that the mass majority of people who are unhappy with this figure are just disappointed period.

I don't know how many molds this character has been made into (or even repainted into)...
But I didn't think it was so many that a repaint would do him justice in a line that includes updated "classic" characters.

I’m starting to miss what the big deal is here, if not cause he’s a repaint, why are you upset?

Now, what if G1 Blaster was an Soundwave repaint, would you still be upset? He wasn’t, but this one is, are you upset because Blaster isn’t and shouldn’t be a Soundwave repaint?

Nekoman wrote:How are they not good examples? Just because a figure gets repainted as another character one time doesn’t mean that character will be a repaint of that figure from then on. It’s crazy talk.

I thought it was pretty obvious why...
Thundercracker IS physically SS.
Second, we're talking about a situation involving Soundwave, one of the most popular TF of all time.

Nekoman wrote:I’m starting to miss what the big deal is here, if not cause he’s a repaint, why are you upset?

Now, what if G1 Blaster was an Soundwave repaint, would you still be upset? He wasn’t, but this one is, are you upset because Blaster isn’t and shouldn’t be a Soundwave repaint?

Yes... Blaster being a repaint is the beef here... I thought this was obvious too.
If Blaster had always been a repaint of Soundwave, we wouldn't think or know any different...
It's like you're asking if people would be upset if Silverstreak wasn't made from the Prowl mold...
I wouldn't think so, because originally they were the same.

I'll say it again.
I think people, including myself, are disappointed that we're not getting something new/more updated, and flat-out better for this character.
I think the big deal is that there was so much more potential for something great here, not something slightly old and totally recycled.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nekoman wrote:How are they not good examples? Just because a figure gets repainted as another character one time doesn’t mean that character will be a repaint of that figure from then on. It’s crazy talk.

I thought it was pretty obvious why...
Thundercracker IS physically SS.
Second, we're talking about a situation involving Soundwave, one of the most popular TF of all time.

I threw out three examples there, of them all Thundercracker wasn’t a good one. But, I’d laugh my ass off if animated Swindle, or if we get one Universe Swindle we’re repainted into Camshaft.

Nekoman wrote:I’m starting to miss what the big deal is here, if not cause he’s a repaint, why are you upset?

Now, what if G1 Blaster was an Soundwave repaint, would you still be upset? He wasn’t, but this one is, are you upset because Blaster isn’t and shouldn’t be a Soundwave repaint?

Yes... Blaster being a repaint is the beef here... I thought this was obvious too.
If Blaster had always been a repaint of Soundwave, we wouldn't think or know any different...
It's like you're asking if people would be upset if Silverstreak wasn't made from the Prowl mold...
I wouldn't think so, because originally they were the same.

I'll say it again.
I think people, including myself, are disappointed that we're not getting something new/more updated, and flat-out better for this character.
I think the big deal is that there was so much more potential for something great here, not something slightly old and totally recycled.

THEN I WAS RIGHT! Your upset cause it’s a repaint unlike it’s G1 counterpart. Your mad because it’s different from G1 and you say it right there!

If Blaster was an repaint in G1 people would think nothing of it, but he wasn’t and that’s why they’re upset.

I don't see what this has to do with how he was or wasn't repainted in G1. Neither of them was a jet in G1. It's something new. I would have prefered a new head mold and cassette-bot, buy I guess Hasbro didn't have the budget for it.

Scaleface wrote:I don't see what this has to do with how he was or wasn't repainted in G1. Neither of them was a jet in G1. It's something new. I would have prefered a new head mold and cassette-bot, buy I guess Hasbro didn't have the budget for it.

Sowndwave76 wrote:If Blaster had always been a repaint of Soundwave, we wouldn't think or know any different...

There you have it. If he was an repaint in G1 people would think nothing of it, but he wasn’t and that’s why people are upset, cause he’s a repaint, not like he was in G1. That’s why I said people tend to think everything should be just like in G1. That’s what this whole deal is about.

Also, believe it or not, making the new head mold would have cost almost as much as an new mold, so it wouldn’t have been profitable. The reason being is that they originally didn’t plan for this repaint two years ago, so they didn’t put an alternant head in the stencil created for the mold.

Its complicated.

You'd think Hasbro would have the foresight to make 2+ head options for all new molds when it initially makes the mold. Simply make some part reversable, or switchable with another to give 2 head variants. That when when the inevetible repaint occures, you have a second head option to make the new toy more sellable.

I always felt like a bio page helps make a character more "real", I just pasted this thing together with the HTS sales page and the Dreamwave bio for G1 Blaster, but it works for me until the real thing comes out.

http://home.comcast.net/~mathewignash/i ... iverse.jpg

Nekoman wrote:THEN I WAS RIGHT! Your upset cause it’s a repaint unlike it’s G1 counterpart. Your mad because it’s different from G1 and you say it right there!

If Blaster was an repaint in G1 people would think nothing of it, but he wasn’t and that’s why they’re upset.

I don't think you're reading what I've been posting...
Okay, we're clear that Blaster wasn't a Soundwave repaint in G1.

But most people aren't complaining that this is the current issue with the "new" Blaster.
As far as what I've read from other people (including my own views)
I'm not unhappy with this figure BECAUSE Blaster wasn't a repaint in G1.

My argument is NOT "Blaster wasn't a repaint in G1, he shouldn't be now".

I'm not sure how you've read that into all of this.

Does this (the following) make sense?????----

"I'll say it again.
I think people, including myself, are disappointed that we're not getting something new/more updated, and flat-out better for this character.
I think the big deal is that there was so much more potential for something great here, not something slightly old and totally recycled."

Those statements have ZERO to do with what occurred in G1.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nekoman wrote:THEN I WAS RIGHT! Your upset cause it’s a repaint unlike it’s G1 counterpart. Your mad because it’s different from G1 and you say it right there!

If Blaster was an repaint in G1 people would think nothing of it, but he wasn’t and that’s why they’re upset.

I don't think you're reading what I've been posting...
Okay, we're clear that Blaster wasn't a Soundwave repaint in G1.

But most people aren't complaining that this is the current issue with the "new" Blaster.
As far as what I've read from other people (including my own views)
I'm not unhappy with this figure BECAUSE Blaster wasn't a repaint in G1.

My argument is NOT "Blaster wasn't a repaint in G1, he shouldn't be now".

I'm not sure how you've read that into all of this.

Does this (the following) make sense?????----

"I'll say it again.
I think people, including myself, are disappointed that we're not getting something new/more updated, and flat-out better for this character.
I think the big deal is that there was so much more potential for something great here, not something slightly old and totally recycled."

Those statements have ZERO to do with what occurred in G1.

In life everything could be better, but its not.

Really, it doesn’t seem like you’ve been reading my posts right. I was trying to prove a point with the G1 thing, okay, didn’t seem to go over too well. I thought my points in the initial post you quoted me on were quite clear.

You say this has nothing to do with G1 and yet I’m sure if he had been a repaint in G1this wouldn’t be seen as such a bad thing. This alone proves it has something to do with G1.

Actually, I take that back, EVERYTHING that is transformers has something to do with G1, G1 was the beginning and everything after has something to do with it. The classics line as a whole is a line modeled after G1, it does have something to do with it.

If you go back and read your first post you claim twice that no one is saying anything that relates to what I said. Maybe I did go off a bit with the second point, but Liege clearly said that every Soundwave from here on would get repainted into Blaster. Bullshit.

Just what is it that aggravates you about this repaint more than any other? And don’t give me that about how Blaster could have been so much more, you could say the same thing for any repaint. Like Universe Roadbuster and Dirge, Ratbat, Springer, but so much rage is never thrown up about them. What makes Blaster so special?

You know what? I’m sick of this argument. You and I will get nowhere with this no matter how much we argue anyway, bold text and caps don’t change this fact. What’s done is done and beggars cant be choosers. All of this is because Liege said that people who buy this figure are idiots and if you do you’re a zombie of Hasbro. Now no offense to Liege, he’s a rather understandable person who I myself usually agree with, but I’m not an idiot for buying a darn toy and he cant tell me that. You like what you like and you hate what you hate but you aren’t necessarily an “idiot” for either.

This wont be the last Blaster, there will be more and some of them surely wont be repaints.

Still, I guess where I get lost is, what makes this repaint any different than a lot of other stuff they’ve repainted? Why is Blaster so special?

Also, you do remember typing more than that one statement, right?

Scaleface wrote:You'd think Hasbro would have the foresight to make 2+ head options for all new molds when it initially makes the mold. Simply make some part reversable, or switchable with another to give 2 head variants. That when when the inevetible repaint occures, you have a second head option to make the new toy more sellable.

Yeah I agree, they should definately put more thought into that stuff before they make the molds. They'd sell more ( - at least to me they would). And I'd complain less. Well, slightly less.

The advent of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker shows they've at least begun to think along those lines.

There's also 2 characters on animated that I think may be getting similar treatment.

Bumblethumper wrote:

Scaleface wrote:You'd think Hasbro would have the foresight to make 2+ head options for all new molds when it initially makes the mold. Simply make some part reversable, or switchable with another to give 2 head variants. That when when the inevetible repaint occures, you have a second head option to make the new toy more sellable.

Yeah I agree, they should definately put more thought into that stuff before they make the molds. They'd sell more ( - at least to me they would). And I'd complain less. Well, slightly less.

The advent of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker shows they've at least begun to think along those lines.

There's also 2 characters on animated that I think may be getting similar treatment.

Hasbro said the Lockdown repaint would have an new head to name one.

I have to think they don’t sometimes so that way when a figure blows up in their faces *cough*Backstop*cough, cough* They don’t have an useless head lying around.

Regardless, I agree, Hasbro sometimes tends to have an serious lack of foresight when it comes to these sorts of things.

Nekoman wrote:In life everything could be better, but its not.

Giving vague statements like this doesn't do anything to prove your point.
And it's interesting and almost humorous to me that you'll say this now in this thread, yet you've dogged on Animated like this statement doesn't apply with that line.

Nekoman wrote:Really, it doesn’t seem like you’ve been reading my posts right. I was trying to prove a point with the G1 thing, okay, didn’t seem to go over too well. I thought my points in the initial post you quoted me on were quite clear.

I'm really not saying this to be a jerk, I'm not looking for this to be anything more than a discussion. But if you go back and read some of your own posts with an outside-of-your-own-head perspective, grammatically they're a little hard to follow at times.

Nekoman wrote:You say this has nothing to do with G1 and yet I’m sure if he had been a repaint in G1this wouldn’t be seen as such a bad thing. This alone proves it has something to do with G1.

You're using this hypothetical, and it doesn't add anything to what you're trying to say there at the end-- "this alone proves it has something to do with G1".
Of course no one would have much of an issue if Blaster had always been a repaint of Sw... I don't think anyone is or has been arguing that.
However, NOT wanting him to be a repaint this time doesn't mean it's because he wasn't in his original G1 figure.
I don't know how else or how many more times I can explain this.

Nekoman wrote:Actually, I take that back, EVERYTHING that is transformers has something to do with G1, G1 was the beginning and everything after has something to do with it. The classics line as a whole is a line modeled after G1, it does have something to do with it.

Again, when you put it into such basic, general terms, this is correct... But again, it most definitely doesn't prove that peoples' dislike for this figure is solely based on a lack of following the G1 "formula".

Nekoman wrote:If you go back and read your first post you claim twice that no one is saying anything that relates to what I said. Maybe I did go off a bit with the second point, but Liege clearly said that every Soundwave from here on would get repainted into Blaster. Bullshit.

Come on... I guarantee Liege was simply saying this could start that trend (which again, isn't even THAT much of an unrealistic stretch).
If you're taking him that literally, then imo you were taking him too seriously.

Nekoman wrote:Just what is it that aggravates you about this repaint more than any other? And don’t give me that about how Blaster could have been so much more, you could say the same thing for any repaint.

First thing, no matter how many repaints I like or don't like,
saying that this specific figure could've been so much more is a very legit statement/opinion, no matter what, because it IS a repaint of an older mold.
When a new figure is produced from an old mold, the idea that "more could've been done with that figure" is pretty much indisputable,
because other than paints, nothing more was done.

Nekoman wrote:Like Universe Roadbuster and Dirge, Ratbat, Springer, but so much rage is never thrown up about them. What makes Blaster so special?

Overall, from what I've read, I've heard less negatives about any of those characters you mentioned.
If people were that unhappy with those, I think we both would've seen something more than what we have by now.
From what I've read, people are actually pretty happy about those 2 packs.
Why??? I don't know specifically.
--Maybe because people have wanted a new Roadbuster, and that's a pretty decent mold (??).
--This could be the only Dirge we get for a long time (??).
--It seems to me that Ratbat's figure has definitely been taken up a notch (??).
--Like all of them, I haven't read too many opinions either way on the Springer fig., but it definitely hasn't been completely negative.
If people really thought those other figures were terrible repaints, imo we would've seen more of it by now.

Also, it hasn't just been me who's unhappy with this new Blaster.
One of the very first posts I made in this thread was that almost all of the posts I've read in favor of this figure have been basically "meh".

Nekoman wrote:All of this is because Liege said that people who buy this figure are idiots and if you do you’re a zombie of Hasbro.

Uh, if that's where you're coming from and why you're discussing this, that's fine I guess.
But the dislike of this figure was being discussed before he said any of that.

Nekoman wrote:Now no offense to Liege, he’s a rather understandable person who I myself usually agree with, but I’m not an idiot for buying a darn toy and he cant tell me that.

Well, he can state any opinion he wants, just like your neg. opinions of most of the Animated line. It's pretty clear from your post that you were offended by this, and sorry it hit a sore spot.

Nekoman wrote:This wont be the last Blaster, there will be more and some of them surely wont be repaints.

As much as you have no basis for saying this,
I hope you're right.
Seems like there are quite a few disappointed people.
When was the last time they made a Blaster figure anyway?

Nekoman wrote:Still, I guess where I get lost is, what makes this repaint any different than a lot of other stuff they’ve repainted? Why is Blaster so special?

Again, it seems like there is a good number of people that are unhappy with this fig.
It's not that it's totally different from other repaints.
but hasn't it been brought up negatively more than any of the repaints we're seeing (and I don't just mean from the posts in this thread)??

Nekoman wrote:Also, you do remember typing more than that one statement, right?

I've typed a lot in this thread.
Seriously, which one?

Okay, I think that one major point regarding the entire Soundwave/Blaster discussion has been missed here: cassettes.

As it's been stated, these kids are primarily targeted at kids. Now, I'm sure if you walked up to a kid and handed him an old Phil Collins tape, he'd have no idea what the hell idea it was (or who Phil Collins is) or what to do with it. Blaster especially has a closer connection to music than Soundwave, thus increasing the desire for the character to keep that theme.

On this note, I would like to point out that if Hasbro DID release a true G1 homage to Blaster, I'd be the first of many to rip it off the shelves.

But what would an updated Blaster even be that it could have minions that pop out of its chest? A CD player? An SD card MP3 player? Even if they could make a transforming CD or mini SD card, chances are it'd be flimsy, awkward and ugly. And if you sacrifice the minions altogether, well, it just isn't Blaster. So when you think about it, from a marketing standpoint they need to create a toy that fans will recognize as an original character and new kids, being the primary target group, will still want to play with. No kid will want to play with some antiquated music machine they don't even recognize, but plenty of kids will want a cool-looking stealth bomber.

And as an aside, I'm not really trying to defend Hasbro per se, it's more so that thinking from that perspective, the mold they chose only makes sense. After all, why would they produce a figure 1,000 devoted fans would buy when they can produce something else 10,000 new fans will buy?

What's the big deal with Blaster being a repaint instead of a new figure? I mean, we all understand that repaints are necessary to fund future new molds. For every Universe Prowl and Sunstreaker, we need a few Blasters and Ultra Magnus'.

And a new mold is not necessarily a great idea either. Case in point: Universe Galvatron. Good god, what else could they have screwed up in that figure. Deluxe. Bad tank mold. Ugh. We should have gotten the Superlink Megatron mold repainted in the same scheme as Energon Galvatron.

So for everyone complaining about Blaster, just remember the crap we're getting called Galvatron, and be thankful Blaster is a repaint.

I'll be buying this repaint and I'm awesome.

So, really, anyone else buying it would be awesome by association.

Carry on.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nekoman wrote:In life everything could be better, but its not.

Giving vague statements like this doesn't do anything to prove your point.
And it's interesting and almost humorous to me that you'll say this now in this thread, yet you've dogged on Animated like this statement doesn't apply with that line.

Might you have a bad sense of humor?

Nekoman wrote:Just what is it that aggravates you about this repaint more than any other? And don’t give me that about how Blaster could have been so much more, you could say the same thing for any repaint.

First thing, no matter how many repaints I like or don't like,
saying that this specific figure could've been so much more is a very legit statement/opinion, no matter what, because it IS a repaint of an older mold.
When a new figure is produced from an old mold, the idea that "more could've been done with that figure" is pretty much indisputable,
because other than paints, nothing more was done.

Then I might have misunderstood you. While I like this repaint it could have been more, however I thought you meant that if he was an new mold he could have been so much more, which was why I was lost as to why Blaster is so special.

Nekoman wrote:All of this is because Liege said that people who buy this figure are idiots and if you do you’re a zombie of Hasbro.

Uh, if that's where you're coming from and why you're discussing this, that's fine I guess.
But the dislike of this figure was being discussed before he said any of that.

True, but I may have not been inclined to join such a messy discussion if he hadn’t said you’re dumb for buying a toy.

Nekoman wrote:Now no offense to Liege, he’s a rather understandable person who I myself usually agree with, but I’m not an idiot for buying a darn toy and he cant tell me that.

Well, he can state any opinion he wants, just like your neg. opinions of most of the Animated line. It's pretty clear from your post that you were offended by this, and sorry it hit a sore spot.

My opinions of animated are indeed usually negative, however I wouldn’t say you or anyone are dumb for having their own opinion. If you like animated that’s fine and I wont say you’re stupid for it.

Counterpunch wrote:I'll be buying this repaint and I'm awesome.

So, really, anyone else buying it would be awesome by association.

Carry on.

Then you can say I’m awesome!

Emperor Galvatron wrote:What's the big deal with Blaster being a repaint instead of a new figure? I mean, we all understand that repaints are necessary to fund future new molds. For every Universe Prowl and Sunstreaker, we need a few Blasters and Ultra Magnus'.

Wait... Thats part of my perspective on this--
We'll already get mulitple repaints from some of the figures:
Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Ironhide.
Then there are figs. that are already repaints:
Dump Load
Blades
Springer
Ratbat
Roadbuster
Dirge

Now, I understand that 7 of the molds in Universe are new, and please believe, I do appreciate it, and am excited for almost all of them.
If anything, I wish they would've waited to make Blaster when they make the next batch of new molds, even if it's not until fall of '09.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:And a new mold is not necessarily a great idea either. Case in point: Universe Galvatron. Good god, what else could they have screwed up in that figure. Deluxe. Bad tank mold. Ugh. We should have gotten the Superlink Megatron mold repainted in the same scheme as Energon Galvatron.

Totally agree that he should've been Voyager class...
However, for what he is, he's pretty decent and others have voiced this same acceptance.

But I'll argue that in many ways, the new molds we're seeing are an improvement from the old ones. Whether it's the articulation, cool updated alt. modes, more accurate likenesses, or whatever, I think there's a pretty good case for the new molds.

I definitely don't agree with sticking with something safe and old instead of branching out and trying to make something better.
I wish Blaster was better via a new mold,
but Dump Load is a total joke, and his place (especially taking a Voyager spot) in the Universe line is ridiculous.

Emperor Galvatron wrote:So for everyone complaining about Blaster, just remember the crap we're getting called Galvatron, and be thankful Blaster is a repaint.

Considering it is a different/updated mold, it does arguably have the best Galvs robot mode to date.
Don't get me wrong, I was a little disappointed with him,
but when I see Blaster and Dump Load, imo, he's not the biggest letdown we're getting.

Nekoman wrote:Then I might have misunderstood you. While I like this repaint it could have been more, however I thought you meant that if he was an new mold he could have been so much more, which was why I was lost as to why Blaster is so special.

It's not that Blaster's special. But I don't see how someone can say that this is the best mold for an updated figure of a classic character, when we never even had the chance to see something else...

To say that this is THE potential for this character's updated mold, just doesn't make sense to me.
I'm not saying it's the worst by any means... But the best????
No.

And I know you really like repaints. Who's to say that a new mold for Blaster wouldn't have been so good that it was used for other characters later on?
Would some people have been disappointed with a new mold?
Of course. I've read at least 1 neg. comment about all of figs. that are new molds (names, color schemes, class size, alt modes, an alt. mode that has too many dividing lines, etc., it's all been covered).
However, we've both read more good about the new molds than bad.
Okay wait, Silverbolt has had some mixed reviews...
But it definitely hasn't been all negative.

And I am curious, how do you think this repaint "could have been more"?
What would you have changed/added/etc.??

Nekoman wrote:My opinions of animated are indeed usually negative, however I wouldn’t say you or anyone are dumb for having their own opinion. If you like animated that’s fine and I wont say you’re stupid for it.

I guess I don't understand why you take offense to something that you don't think is true.
If someone calls you stupid and you get upset, it almost seems like they've "pulled your card".
If you're not guilty, there's no reason to get overly defensive.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nekoman wrote:Then I might have misunderstood you. While I like this repaint it could have been more, however I thought you meant that if he was an new mold he could have been so much more, which was why I was lost as to why Blaster is so special.

It's not that Blaster's special. But I don't see how someone can say that this is the best mold for an updated figure of a classic character, when we never even had the chance to see something else...

I never said it’s the best.

And I know you really like repaints. Who's to say that a new mold for Blaster wouldn't have been so good that it was used for other characters later on?
Would some people have been disappointed with a new mold?

I may not have been disappointed with an new mold, but the reason I say may is because we don’t know since he never did get a new mold. Heck, if he had a gotten a new mold who’s to say it wouldn’t have been the next Cybertron Backstop?

And I am curious, how do you think this repaint "could have been more"?
What would you have changed/added/etc.??

As mentioned by others a new bot to put in his chest (I cant really call it a cassettacon anymore, now can I?) would have been nice, somehow I think that would have been easier and more plausible then a new head seeing as how its really a separate piece rather than a part of the toy.

I also think he would have looked better with yellow or black transparent parts rather than blue. To me, the blue tid bits were the only parts of the toy that didn’t seem to flow.

Nekoman wrote:My opinions of animated are indeed usually negative, however I wouldn’t say you or anyone are dumb for having their own opinion. If you like animated that’s fine and I wont say you’re stupid for it.

I guess I don't understand why you take offense to something that you don't think is true.
If someone calls you stupid and you get upset, it almost seems like they've "pulled your card".
If you're not guilty, there's no reason to get overly defensive.

That’s not the point.

If some guy, for no apparent reason flips you a bird wouldn’t you be upset? Its an insult and its insulting and there’s no reason just to say “you iz da dum-b if u by dat toy!”.

Yeah, you could always just ignore it, but doesn’t it bother you? There’s no right in saying someone’s an idiot for wanting something. At least that’s how I feel.

Nekoman wrote:I never said it’s the best.

Okay... To me, that's a total cop-out.
If that's where you're trying to take this, and you'd rather dodge conversation than make legitimate points, that's fine.

Nekoman wrote:I may not have been disappointed with an new mold, but the reason I say may is because we don’t know since he never did get a new mold. Heck, if he had a gotten a new mold who’s to say it wouldn’t have been the next Cybertron Backstop?

People can say Hasbro lets us in the fandom down quite a bit; that they don't meet our expectations very often.
But I'll argue that in many ways, the new molds we're seeing are a pretty big improvement from the old ones. Whether it's the articulation, cool updated alt. modes, more accurate likenesses, or whatever, I think there's a pretty good case for the new molds.
Unless the quality itself of these molds is junk, I doubt any (even with whatever we get in '09) will be as bad as a Cyb. Backstop mold.
Obviously there's a chance you wouldn't have liked a new Blaster mold...
But to try and support your argument with such an extreme isn't even realistic.

Nekoman wrote:If some guy, for no apparent reason flips you a bird wouldn’t you be upset? Its an insult and its insulting and there’s no reason just to say “you iz da dum-b if u by dat toy!”.

Yeah, you could always just ignore it, but doesn’t it bother you? There’s no right in saying someone’s an idiot for wanting something. At least that’s how I feel.

First off, you're acting like Liege said that directly TO YOU.
Why?
You seem like a pretty decent person, but all of this (even your example scenario),
makes me question how old you are.
Getting upset because someone flips you "the bird" for no reason?????

And as far as said scenario, if I didn't do anything to truly deserve "the bird", then no, it most definitely wouldn't upset me.
I'd probably laugh and/or wave, or ignore it.

If you want something, why does it matter if someone looks down on it? Seriously, how does that affect what you like??


I guess it boils down to having a decent level of maturity, and maybe some confidence too.

I've had two different people message me today to comment on the stupidity of the direction this thread has gone.

Fair warning, knock it off before I request that another Mod who gives a damn steps in.

In all honesty, I don't see what the big deal is...
This thread started steering off topic on the first page.
Even though we weren't seeing eye to eye, I really thought that Nekoman and I were having a decent, civil conversation.

If I offended anyone, I definitely apologize.