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Shipping this thing would be a HUGE pain in the ass.

If there's no trailer for Prime, the MSRP would probably be around 150-180. Not a bad deal for those that missed the figures the first time.

I don't believe the MP-08 rumors being a MP Prime vs. Megs set. It wouldn't make much sense. We're talking about two 12inch figures with all of their accessories including a 12 inch trailer, Megs gun attachments, etc. Like the Professor said, the box would be huge. As for the price, wouldn't it make more sense for TakTomy to release these two "Perfect Edition" separately?

PrimeFan wrote:I don't believe the MP-08 rumors being a MP Prime vs. Megs set. It wouldn't make much sense. We're talking about two 12inch figures with all of their accessories including a 12 inch trailer, Megs gun attachments, etc. Like the Professor said, the box would be huge.

On the contrary, a Masterpiece 2-Pack containing complete versions of Prime & Megatron makes total sense. Not only will it be an amazing "holy grail" addition for collectors who can afford it, it'll probably help TakTom move a lot more units of Megatron in the process. Being in a package with Prime, there will probably be a lot fewer issues with importing, exporting, safety laws, orange caps, etc. since it will clearly be sold more as a collector robot than a replica gun. Add to that the number of people who will gladly pay for OFFICIAL bonus Megatron accessories as opposed to the KO versions just released as the "MP-05 Upgrade Kit". Even though I own the MP-01, MP-04 and MP-05 versions, I'll absolutely drop the money to get a collector set of the best Prime & Megatron figures ever made. The only thing that could possibly make it better is if they included the original G1 versions as well :)

As for MP-07 being a G1 colored Starscream, it also makes sense considering Prime w/ Trailer got a new catalogue number as well. It's stupid, yes, but does make sense to how they choose to catalogue these things. But at the end of the day, just like MP-02 Ultra Magnus & MP-04 Prime w/ Trailer before them, MP-07 G1 Starscream & MP-08 Prime vs. Megatron are just easy to do space fillers. They might sound redundant by some standards, but I'll guarantee they sell out just as every MP before them has done.

And the only way I would ever be on board with regular car/truck Autobots being released as Masterpieces is ONLY if they decided to do Trailbreaker, Ratchet & Ironhide since they never made Binaltech/Alternators versions of them. But more than anything I'm in the camp hoping for MP versions of characters like Soundwave, Skyfire (G1 cartoon version), Shockwave, Blitzwing or Grimlock and the Dinobots. But that's a LOT of entirely new molds with no chance to really be repainted (well I guess Soundwave would mean an automatic Soundblaster repaint), so I'm not holding my breath.

mp-07 will be g1 ss. i'll bet a pound of energon goodies on it

decepticonjon wrote:mp-07 will be g1 ss. i'll bet a pound of energon goodies on it

I'll go in on that with ya... I too think that MP-07 is US starscream, and I'm not sure about MP-08 even if my sources say it is the 2-pack, i'm still sckeptical.. but even if it is the 2-pack, I'm buying it!! I have 3 MP Primes already, the fan made trailer, and the Megatron upgrade parts.. so for me it's not an issue, buying the 2-Pack, it's all in one box and will be in my collection in MISB.. and will be a nice centerpiece for the boxes already released.. not to mention the MP-07 ss will now match the rest fo my masterpiece collections in the black boxes..

decepticonjon wrote:mp-07 will be g1 ss. i'll bet a pound of energon goodies on it

It would be awesome if US Starscream is MP-07, and it came with a sticker that read "Thundercracker" for the stand of your existant MP-03 Starscream. That would be a real two pack there.

Dagon wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:The 2-pack is another take at Megatron.

One more to go!

What other take at Megatron? What's wrong (like really wrong, not just complaints about plastic theses or the 'rust' on the feet) with the existent one?

The theory is that Takara will want to use a mold at least 3 times, before they let go, and move on to develop a new mold.

I quote...

AlienQuiksilver wrote:
With Walscream out now ... totaling 3 Seekers, and 3 Prime molds. Logic will only tell us that we are getting 2 more Megatrons, possibly a repaint to Galvy before moving on. (unlikely, but wouldn't surprise me one bit)

Current tally:
*3 Primes
*3 Starscreams
*1 Megatron

Add the 2-pack will give Megatron another shot.

Which brings the tally to:
*4 Primes
*3 Starscreams
*2 Megatrons

Auto Bot wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:The 2-pack is another take at Megatron.

One more to go!

What other take at Megatron? What's wrong (like really wrong, not just complaints about plastic theses or the 'rust' on the feet) with the existent one?

The theory is that Takara will want to use a mold at least 3 times, before they let go, and move on to develop a new mold.

I quote...

AlienQuiksilver wrote:
With Walscream out now ... totaling 3 Seekers, and 3 Prime molds. Logic will only tell us that we are getting 2 more Megatrons, possibly a repaint to Galvy before moving on. (unlikely, but wouldn't surprise me one bit)

Current tally:
*3 Primes
*3 Starscreams
*1 Megatron

Add the 2-pack will give Megatron another shot.

Which brings the tally to:
*4 Primes
*3 Starscreams
*2 Megatrons

I think that is an accurate and fair assessment.. Takara has reissued MP Megatron already once, as a rerun because of demand.. but to relreease the mold in a 2-Pack with Prime again, gives more money to the pot, and makes both figures very accessible for the fans and new ones coming to the table, so they then can get drawn into the others and build the fanbase larger.. if they do the 2-pack don't gt upset, just don't buy it..it's that simple..

let the people who missed out get theirs, and build the fanbase larger, so more Transformers can get made with a larger demand, more product money can go into developing more Masterpieces.. so the line doesn't get canceled like Alternators/Binaltech!!

Auto Bot wrote:

Dagon wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:The 2-pack is another take at Megatron.

One more to go!

What other take at Megatron? What's wrong (like really wrong, not just complaints about plastic theses or the 'rust' on the feet) with the existent one?

The theory is that Takara will want to use a mold at least 3 times, before they let go, and move on to develop a new mold.

I quote...

AlienQuiksilver wrote:
With Walscream out now ... totaling 3 Seekers, and 3 Prime molds. Logic will only tell us that we are getting 2 more Megatrons, possibly a repaint to Galvy before moving on. (unlikely, but wouldn't surprise me one bit)

Current tally:
*3 Primes
*3 Starscreams
*1 Megatron

Add the 2-pack will give Megatron another shot.

Which brings the tally to:
*4 Primes
*3 Starscreams
*2 Megatrons

Yeah, fine. But other than rereleasing MP Megatron, what can you turn MP Megatron into? That is not a figure that can simply be repainted and released as a different character like the Seeker mold. Even some alterations, like changing the head or adding the arm cannon for Shockwave or a new head and a new gun to make it Galvatron, are not feasible to then reissue it as a MAsterpiece. So reissuing MP Megatron will result in a straight reissue.

Dagon wrote:Yeah, fine. But other than rereleasing MP Megatron, what can you turn MP Megatron into? That is not a figure that can simply be repainted and released as a different character like the Seeker mold. Even some alterations, like changing the head or adding the arm cannon for Shockwave or a new head and a new gun to make it Galvatron, are not feasible to then reissue it as a MAsterpiece. So reissuing MP Megatron will result in a straight reissue.

The only recolor of Megs I can think of is the black version of Megatron with the wooden grips:
http://mykooltoyz.tripod.com/blackmegatron.html

If they are smart, though there will perpetually be re-releases of Prime and Megs. Maybe in limited quantities, maybe with a few adjustments and add ons, but they are the characters everyone will always want in their collections.

There is only one way that I'd buy a Modified Masterpiece Megatron...and that is not in a Black repaint... rather, i would spend the cash to get him if he was a Reformatted version.. which wouldn't be too hard to do..it would just require a modification of one of their molds..





that would be kinda cool.. a Battle damaged and reformatted Megatron...

I know it was mentioned already but I would love to see an mp of each of the constructicons that would actually form a huge devastator. Grimlock of course. I think Soundwave would be super sweet if he came with a masterpiece Laserbeak and then down the road they released a tape set with Ravage Rumble and Frenzy, in that vain Blaster would make for a sweet MP too.

If takara needs to release 3 repaint from the same mold, they should :
1)Prowl
2)Smokescreen
3)Bluestreak (or Silverstreak)

ThunderZap wrote:If takara needs to release 3 repaint from the same mold, they should :
1)Prowl
2)Smokescreen
3)Bluestreak (or Silverstreak)

Don't we already have Binaltech figures for all 3 of those? They approximately replicate the G1 scale of their respective figures to MP Convoy.

Professor Smooth wrote:

ThunderZap wrote:If takara needs to release 3 repaint from the same mold, they should :
1)Prowl
2)Smokescreen
3)Bluestreak (or Silverstreak)

Don't we already have Binaltech figures for all 3 of those? They approximately replicate the G1 scale of their respective figures to MP Convoy.

the difference is that the Binaltech figures are not the 1980s toys in superior sculpting and articualtion.. so I would buy a Masterpiece auotbot that was of the original character.. and who says it would be just like Binal tech.. it could be very very different and superior... who knows..

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... s/07-1.jpg


Also Professor..... would you really pass this up??
http://www.tfmaster.com/gallery_kb0130. ... 37dd581bbb

I still say we need a highly detailed combiner. An MP Devestator (where the combined form was a little taller than MP Prime) would be awesome.

GetterDragun wrote:I still say we need a highly detailed combiner. An MP Devestator (where the combined form was a little taller than MP Prime) would be awesome.

I agree, and they could be released in 2 seperate boxes or one big set.. but what class size were you thinking??

They may as well go all out. Do them all MP-1 scale. Six one-hundred dollar Masterpiece Constructicons released quarterly for 1.5 years seems plausable. The combiner would stand about twice as tall as MP Prime and probably weigh around 5 times as much.

Professor Smooth wrote:They may as well go all out. Do them all MP-1 scale. Six one-hundred dollar Masterpiece Constructicons released quarterly for 1.5 years seems plausable. The combiner would stand about twice as tall as MP Prime and probably weigh around 5 times as much.

that sounds like a really awesome idea.

soundwave, grimlock, and rodimus.

skywarp-2 wrote:

Professor Smooth wrote:

ThunderZap wrote:If takara needs to release 3 repaint from the same mold, they should :
1)Prowl
2)Smokescreen
3)Bluestreak (or Silverstreak)

Don't we already have Binaltech figures for all 3 of those? They approximately replicate the G1 scale of their respective figures to MP Convoy.

the difference is that the Binaltech figures are not the 1980s toys in superior sculpting and articualtion.. so I would buy a Masterpiece auotbot that was of the original character.. and who says it would be just like Binal tech.. it could be very very different and superior... who knows..

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... s/07-1.jpg


Also Professor..... would you really pass this up??
http://www.tfmaster.com/gallery_kb0130. ... 37dd581bbb

Jazz is okay, but not amazing. Looks like the designer used a Binaltech body. The big problem is that Porche has no intentions of giving design rights to Takara, which presents a big problem.

Stormrider wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Professor Smooth wrote:

ThunderZap wrote:If takara needs to release 3 repaint from the same mold, they should :
1)Prowl
2)Smokescreen
3)Bluestreak (or Silverstreak)

Don't we already have Binaltech figures for all 3 of those? They approximately replicate the G1 scale of their respective figures to MP Convoy.

the difference is that the Binaltech figures are not the 1980s toys in superior sculpting and articualtion.. so I would buy a Masterpiece auotbot that was of the original character.. and who says it would be just like Binal tech.. it could be very very different and superior... who knows..

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l262/ ... s/07-1.jpg


Also Professor..... would you really pass this up??
http://www.tfmaster.com/gallery_kb0130. ... 37dd581bbb

Jazz is okay, but not amazing. Looks like the designer used a Binaltech body. The big problem is that Porche has no intentions of giving design rights to Takara, which presents a big problem.

if im not mistaken, vw owns porshe now.. so we might see, things change

decepticonjon wrote:

Stormrider wrote:Jazz is okay, but not amazing. Looks like the designer used a Binaltech body. The big problem is that Porche has no intentions of giving design rights to Takara, which presents a big problem.

if im not mistaken, vw owns porshe now.. so we might see, things change

You wouldn't need to.

The original G1 figs didn't use the licensed designs of the actual cars either. They were loose interpretations of existing vehicles.

All pretty obvious, but no need to pay for licenses.

I love that version of Jazz. I have all the bits at home to build one, just not the time.

I'm seriously drooling over that Jazz. Holy ****!

That's the problem with kitbashing a model kit, though. Cutting the seams removes material. Which means that the panels can never line up properly in car mode.

I wonder if building the edges up with some kind of epoxy and resculpting would be a pain. Something tells me it would be tedious.