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News Credits: 42 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:19 pm

Really wish that Paleotrex was sold separately. I'd rather not get another Megatron.

News Credits: 56 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:19 pm

It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

News Credits: 42 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:30 pm

o.supreme wrote:It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

Looks like a darker blue (more accurate) for the plastic on the shoulders and matching darker paint on the face and legs, but fewer paint apps overall.

I like the darker blue better than the lighter blue, but the more paint apps overall more than I like the better blue, so I'm probably sticking with the regular release.

News Credits: 7 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:41 pm

Ironhide no!

News Credits: 19 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 pm

Pretty sure the sparkless are different to Quint troops but hey.

Ironhide quint just looks bad, doesnt help that the alt is pretty bad but now the robot mode looks dull in the way it is painted.

Cheetor, making the blue better still can't improve the figures flaws for me and it looks like the blue crotch desnt match the plastic but this may not be final production figure. Hope it looks a bit better for those that are after him and that the deco doesnt frustrate those that have already picked up Kingdoms.

No doubt this line will have one figure I want but the chances are getting slimmer

News Credits: 12 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:50 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

Looks like a darker blue (more accurate) for the plastic on the shoulders and matching darker paint on the face and legs, but fewer paint apps overall.

I like the darker blue better than the lighter blue, but the more paint apps overall more than I like the better blue, so I'm probably sticking with the regular release.

I might be in the same boat as you, im still on the fence
The regular release has the blue on the shins and this one doesn't, and I prefer the red cheetah eyes over the green ones even if green is more accurate

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:03 pm

THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?

Well. That's one Quintesson figure I don't need.

News Credits: 51 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:11 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?

Well I mean, the Alicons weren't even IN the show, so..yeah, not in the show-based repaint line.

News Credits: 3 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:03 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

Looks like a darker blue (more accurate) for the plastic on the shoulders and matching darker paint on the face and legs, but fewer paint apps overall.

I like the darker blue better than the lighter blue, but the more paint apps overall more than I like the better blue, so I'm probably sticking with the regular release.

It also has a more realistic coat color for the cheetah, with tan plastic instead of yellow, and more pronounced cream underbelly paint apps, instead of retail's lighter shade of yellow. It also omits the blue on the shins so that the cheetah legs have realistic coloration instead of the prominent blue heels. Looks like a different spot pattern too, with smaller and more details. Seems like the philosophy was using the netflix line's slightly increased paint budget to get a more realistic cheetah first, then more accurate robot colors where it wouldn't contradict the cheetah accuracy, with a small backstep in realism to give the cheeta green eyes in a nod to the show.

News Credits: 8 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:22 pm

I am dissapointed. I have been wanting an excuse for a black Ironhide as Diaclone and thry came thiiis close but the grey shins and forearms (accurate to the show but not what I want) just miss the bar. Do I care enough to paint them?

News Credits: 1 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:26 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?
Well I mean, the Alicons weren't even IN the show, so..yeah, not in the show-based repaint line.

Never watched the show, but the toys had to have come first here, right?

I mean, why would they have Ironhide drones instead of Alicons when they knew Alicons were available? Weird!

News Credits: 6 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:56 pm

Seems Netflix Cheetor is prioritizing Cheetah mode over robot mode when it comes to the legs and whip

News Credits: 462 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:19 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?
Well I mean, the Alicons weren't even IN the show, so..yeah, not in the show-based repaint line.

Never watched the show, but the toys had to have come first here, right?

I mean, why would they have Ironhide drones instead of Alicons when they knew Alicons were available? Weird!

To save money on CGI models. They already had one for Ironhide, so they recolored it.

The Netflix line was likely a last minute thing conceived after Hasbro realized that the cartoon's first season wouldn't be coming out until after the Siege toyline would be done and succeeded by Earthrise. Recall how the Prime Wars Trilogy cartoon began when the Combiners Wars toyline was already on its way out to be succeeded by the Titans Return toyline. Evidently, Hasbro did not want a repeat of that and just put out a line of quick and dirty redecos to have something on the shelves to tie in with the show upon its release.

Of the first wave Netflix toys, Decepticon Mirage and Hotlink were the only one whose specific decos actually showed up in the cartoon's first season. But, Mirage felt like an afterthought thrown into the show rather than something planned to really advertise the toy, while Hotlink was just one of many background generic Seekers instead of something truly meant to sell a toy, as though Hasbro looked at the Seekers and just picked one to base the toy's deco on and named it "Hotlink" because the onscreen generic's deco was "close enough". And while Scrapface did appear in the show, it wasn't until the second season, by which point the writers would have had more time to put him into the show.

Of the Wave 2 Netflix toys, Elita-1, Bumblebee, and Nemesis Prime all showed up in the show, but the first two were actually meant to be normal Earthrise toys instead of Netflix toys, but got shifted around thanks to COVID-19 messing up Earthrise's distribution. Nemesis, on the other hand, only got a blink-and-you'll-miss-him cameo appearance inside Optimus Prime's imagination for only a split second, and so was hardly anything of actual import.

Any other characters who appeared in the show that also had Netflix toys bore a greater resemblance to their regular Siege and Earthrise toys, lacking the specific degree of battle damage that their Netflix toy decos had. In Ultra Magnus's case, he resembled his Siege toy when he was alive, while his Netflix toy was colored with the intent of resembling his dead body from the show. However, said corpse had to have originated from the show itself rather than the show taking inspiration from his toy since, despite the intention, the toy's deco does not match the onscreen appearance of his corpse in the same way that his living self matches the look of his retail toy, or in the same way that everyone else in the show resembles their normal toys.

News Credits: 20 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:43 am

I was hoping for more gold paint, but at least this Cheetor has the darker metallic blue, which is all I really wanted anyway. Plus, the cheetah head paint is so much better than the standard release. I didn't notice it at first, but now I can't unsee it. It also looks like some of his parts (biceps, hands, paws, abs, etc.) are molded in a tanish/goldish color. I like it, especially if it's more on the gold side, it helps cover for the lack of gold paint. This Cheetor looks 10× better than the retail one, even without the leg paint.

That Ironhide is basically a fusion of G1 and bayverse, and it's incredible.

News Credits: 22 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:04 am

I might actually cancel my Cheetor preorder to wait for this one.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:09 am

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am still very skeptical. It just seems so odd that SG Jetfire, who was a very minor SG character, would get that repaint. That seems like a lot to ask for for $80
Fair enough, it did seem like a weird choice when I first read it too, I would have expected Sir Soundwave, Wheeljack, or Rodimus before we saw an SG Jetfire.

I would expect a lot before a SG Jetfire, but maybe they're banking on a black jet Commander class figure.

Soundwave is the SG bot I would love to see actually happen. I count Rodimus Unicronus as SG Rodimus, and I don't think a toy could properly beat him anyway

I would totally be in for a black Jetfire in SG colors. Just a fan of the black and purple color scheme. Hope they don’t up the price for it.

Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:49 am

I'm kinda interested in the Ironhide-based drone.

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:28 am

The paint on this Cheetor is MUCH better than the Kingdom figure I have, but I’m not really sweating it. If I manage to see this one in store eventually, I’ll pick it up and probably sell my regular Kingdom Cheetor on eBay or something. But if not, oh wells! :DANCE:

News Credits: 42 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:48 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I mean, why would they have Ironhide drones instead of Alicons when they knew Alicons were available? Weird!

It is likely something as simple as they already had a CGI model for Ironhide that they could use versus having to create a new one for the Allicon.

Edit: or what Saber explained much better a few posts above.

News Credits: 1646 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:18 am

I'd take that Ironhide redeco as a SG Ironhide.

Rusty Barricade also is nice, I might get him just for the rust

I also like the purple Paleotrex, but do not want another Megatron.

Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:39 am

And no way I am glad target did NOT have cheetor the other day ! The netflix deco decently has a more classic metallic blue and the cheeta parts have a more subtle, less YELLOW! look. Definetly a purchase if and when he shows up on shelves

News Credits: 462 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:18 am

Quick comparison between the Kingdom and Netflix Cheetors:

Darker blue
Green cheetah eyes
Improved cheetah head deco
Blue paint on legs is gone

News Credits: 11 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:04 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I might actually cancel my Cheetor preorder to wait for this one.

Ditto, this Netflix version looks so much nicer. I'm just praying it won't be as hard to get as Bumblebee and Soundwave were.
The Quintesson Trooper looks decent as well, but I don't have any other Quintessons in my collection, and I'm guessing like the Allicon it'll be in high demand because of the army-building potential, so I'll pass.

News Credits: 462 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:08 pm

Bonus points to Hasbro if the Quint Ironhide redeco is named "Terrorbot".

Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:48 am

Hey everyone, sorry to barge into this thread but I just started collecting and really like this Netflix line. There have been none in stock at any of the Walmart’s near me for a while, nor online. Are you guys expecting more to be released or are they pretty much done? I only have the Netflix Optimus, Megatron & Elita-1, but I’d love to get Soundwave, Bumblebee and a number of others. Just wondering if I should try and find reasonably priced ones on eBay or wait for Wally World to restock.

Thanks!