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This thing looked stupid back when it first came out, and it still looks stupid now.

Also, the Starscream head is a Sideshow exclusive accessory. So if you preorder it on BBTS, or anywhere else other than Sideshow, you wont be getting it.

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectible ... s-9022461/

william-james88 wrote:Here's a better shot of that last one where he is holding the head of his vanquished foe:
Oh and I wont be getting it either. At that price, this toy better come to life and make me dinner!

That’s not Optimus! It’s an impostor! He doesn’t just pick up a flying transformer’s corpse and wear their parts! Oh wait…

Anyways, I am a g1 and transformers anime fan mostly, so I don't know much about this "Murder Prime". Definitely something I'm not gonna waste money on. (and I also love TF Prime...)

william-james88 wrote:True, it doesn't Transform, it isn't an outright G1 reference and 345$ is quite a bit of money to spend...

It's G1 Prime wearing G1 Starscream parts, how more overt to you have to get before it's outright?

But if I'm gonna drop that kind of money on Transformers toys, I think I'd pick the 2016 FSS over this.

Is this thing coming out or not? It was announced as far back as last year's Comic Con

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:True, it doesn't Transform, it isn't an outright G1 reference and 345$ is quite a bit of money to spend...

It's G1 Prime wearing G1 Starscream parts, how more overt to you have to get before it's outright?

But if I'm gonna drop that kind of money on Transformers toys, I think I'd pick the 2016 FSS over this.

It would be outright if there was an episode where Optimus got into a fight with Starscream, then killed him and put on his wings. But that doesnt exist and thus this toy doesnt reference any moment from G1.

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:Is this thing coming out or not? It was announced as far back as last year's Comic Con

Should be out by the end of the year. It's already out in hong Kong.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:True, it doesn't Transform, it isn't an outright G1 reference and 345$ is quite a bit of money to spend...

It's G1 Prime wearing G1 Starscream parts, how more overt to you have to get before it's outright?

But if I'm gonna drop that kind of money on Transformers toys, I think I'd pick the 2016 FSS over this.

It would be outright if there was an episode where Optimus got into a fight with Starscream, then killed him and put on his wings. But that doesnt exist and thus this toy doesnt reference any moment from G1.

You two are using two different definitions of the term "G1".

Nemesis Primal is using "G1" to refer to it as a concept, as in the overall toy/comic/cartoon/etc. franchise that existed in the 1980's and gained several spinoff media and merchandise in the years to come. A synonym for this version of the term would be "Primax"

Will is using "G1" to refer specifically to the 1984-1988 Sunbow cartoon titled "The Transformers".

It's times like this why I wish the term "G1" wasn't so broad in meaning as it has too many definitions that lead to such confusion.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:True, it doesn't Transform, it isn't an outright G1 reference and 345$ is quite a bit of money to spend...

It's G1 Prime wearing G1 Starscream parts, how more overt to you have to get before it's outright?

But if I'm gonna drop that kind of money on Transformers toys, I think I'd pick the 2016 FSS over this.

It would be outright if there was an episode where Optimus got into a fight with Starscream, then killed him and put on his wings. But that doesnt exist and thus this toy doesnt reference any moment from G1.

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:Is this thing coming out or not? It was announced as far back as last year's Comic Con

Should be out by the end of the year. It's already out in hong Kong.

I should look for reviews of it on YouTube then