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Both videos are astounding!!! Totally undermines everything Bay and Co have been saying about "cartoony" designs!

Ugh ignore my idiocy.

Nightwatcher wrote:I just noticed that this was released 3 years ago. lol

Huh? That's impossible. The music used was just release late last year (2006). Is there something dated wrong or something I missed?

Roboto750 wrote:

Nightwatcher wrote:I just noticed that this was released 3 years ago. lol

Huh? That's impossible. The music used was just release late last year (2006). Is there something dated wrong or something I missed?

Seems to be. The site he links to has the video labeled as being released in April 2004. Guess he typed 4 instead of 7. In the words of Optimus Prime "My bad".

This guys work is amazing maybe a low low budget movie would be feasable in the future with TF character rip offs?

HOLY SH!T THATS GREAT!!!!!!!!!! Micheal Bays Bots have nothing on this. This shows what it should have been. Imagine if this guy had a full budget annd the time.

Meverix wrote:

tigtog2007 wrote:i no what you mean...
and i was one of many against the new look of our most beloved robots. but i will admit the clips iv seen look great but they still took to much of what made this a possibilty out with out g1 this film would not exsist. bay could have at least took more care in there look..
i just hope films 2&3 robots improve in looks ie a little bit more g1ish and no more insect heads

Oh yeah, the clips look amazing. It's just clear that for the the G1ers got shortchanged a bit.

"Yes its a Transformers film BUT we're changing it enough that you'll have to work hard to believe so ;D"

Bit bulky robots is a little too cartoony for me. Luckily I grew up with Beast Wars so organic looking robots (talking about the Transmetals) sort of fit quite well. This video shows us what could've been, and maybe I'm too used to the new movie guys to like is as much as I might've.

Im a G1 er and im happy as hell that they didnt go with a G1 boxy look.. I got tired of seeing the same robot form over and over and over, repaint after repaint .. These 3D clips are cool but to make a movie using them would have been a flop in my eyes.. I like that this movie went to a whole new level and didnt go with the boring look of whats been thrown at us over the years. It's going to be a killer movie , i cant wait to see it ...

Nightwatcher wrote:

Roboto750 wrote:

Nightwatcher wrote:I just noticed that this was released 3 years ago. lol

Huh? That's impossible. The music used was just release late last year (2006). Is there something dated wrong or something I missed?

Seems to be. The site he links to has the video labeled as being released in April 2004. Guess he typed 4 instead of 7. In the words of Optimus Prime "My bad".

From my understanding, he and a friend did this back in 2004, but they never completely finished it and now he's decided to release it from his 'vault'. So that would be why it says 2004 yet has Vince DiCola's new TF tune in it.

I just wonder if he's got a few more in his vault he hasnt released yet. I also agree with some people, this would look good for like a direct-to-dvd version of Alternators.

Yeah. Sorry Michael Bay...those worked on teh mescreeners...you is fullz of crappers. If one freaking dude can make that work imagine what ILM could do without...say...the jiggsaw-formers in mind. Blech!

Thanks Michael Smith for making the truest "transformers live action movie" we will ever get...a ten second clip.

That was cool, but I have to agree with the new movie designs looking more realistic. I support the designs because we needed a change from the norm, by the way Spiderman 3 was alright but I think transformers is going to be way better.

I'm sorry, I love that, must have been really hard work to look that great. And I still don't like "the new" look for Transformers in the movie, give me the "norm" and "the boxy" look anytime. I never thought roaches in disguised with metal as sexy, just me though. I don't really care for realistic look crap. That's just Bay's excuse to create living morphing ugly aliens for his robot movie. Gee, I guess I'm still bitter about that. I guess I'm saying ....

Good job on that effort for a realistic appoach of a Transformer, Mr. Michael Smith, sweet indeed.

I'm of the camp that believes my Transformers should look like walking bricks. Congrats to you Michael Smith, hope you release more. If this was constructed on a low budget, imagine what he may have produced with studio support. Ahh, the dreams and fantasies...

"Walking Bricks"? Well, I don't necessarily agree with that. But the Classic look is in fact the "Look" of the Transformers. Now, as an artist of sorts, I definitely appreciate fresh perspectives on these characters, but there are certain design elements that simply should never be overlooked. These corporate entities just don't seem to fully understand that. One example of what I'm talking about is Bumblebee's horns. Another is Megatron's Fusion Cannon. Megatron should ALWAYS have a HUGE GUN on his arm. Switch it to the left if you want, but Megatron HAS to have the huge gun and the Bucket Head. This new megatron does have the Bucket Helmet, but they definitely could have done something in the way of giving him his obligatory Fusion Cannon. Optimus Prime should ALWAYS have the Face Shield. I also found hit customary "Red Shirt" and "Blue Pants" motif to be characteristic as well.

Now, I must give them their credit where it's due. Based on everything I've seen, these characters are, in fact, still true at the core. After goofing around with Ryan's Leader Class Optimus Prime figure, I must say that even with the Longnose cab and flames, you can still tell it's Optimus Prime. Same with Bumblebee. But, giving the characters mouths when they should have the muzzle, and giving muzzles to the characters that should have mouths just doesn't make ANY sense.

The "Blocky" designs are a part of what makes Transformers what they are. But, after seeing a series like Beast Wars, where a similar design aesthetic was employed, albeit on completely new characters and minus mechanical alt modes, I have faith in the characters that ILM and Dreamworks' staff have created.

Michael Smith would probably last about 10-11 rounds against Michael Bay. But Bay's got more hired muscle.

tile_mcgillus wrote:Yeah. Sorry Michael Bay...those worked on teh mescreeners...you is fullz of crappers. If one freaking dude can make that work imagine what ILM could do without...say...the jiggsaw-formers in mind. Blech!

Thanks Michael Smith for making the truest "transformers live action movie" we will ever get...a ten second clip.

jiggsaw-formers should be the official name for the Movie bots. I just like how in the movie the bits are all complex but the toys are just standard TF figures with blockyness. Like ive been saying the toys are going to be better than the movie. But to get back on topic, If some guy could make a cool clip like this then ILM will be able to make it 200 time better. I think ILM should make a G1 style Webisode just to see how the G1 bots would look in the new movie. That way we all will now if the old bots would've worked in the movie or not.

you want G1 movies watch robot chicken lol .The toys are cool but the movie bots are a million times better. There is no way to make a toy as complex as the movie robots lol , if they did its would probably cost like 2 grand lol, and i myself would not want to try and transform it lol.. None of these toys are geared towards collectors this is why you wont see complex toys, they're made for kids. The're are more kids out there then collectors and hasbro is going to target them before a collector lol. Collectors get the masterpiece series , thats about it ...
If they made a movie using the style this guy used in this home made thing, i honestly would not go see the movie because it would be like every other clone of G1 that hs been released as cartoons.. I cant believe people are not sick of seeing the same junk over and over.. G1 was great yeah but that was the 80's man, got to wake up its 2007.. G1 is history let grandpa retire in peace and let the new come in and take over.. Im a G1-er from the beginning and im glad they did what they did to all the robots in the movie.

PrimulArchangel wrote:you want G1 movies watch robot chicken lol .The toys are cool but the movie bots are a million times better. There is no way to make a toy as complex as the movie robots lol , if they did its would probably cost like 2 grand lol, and i myself would not want to try and transform it lol.. None of these toys are geared towards collectors this is why you wont see complex toys, they're made for kids. The're are more kids out there then collectors and hasbro is going to target them before a collector lol. Collectors get the masterpiece series , thats about it ...
If they made a movie using the style this guy used in this home made thing, i honestly would not go see the movie because it would be like every other clone of G1 that hs been released as cartoons.. I cant believe people are not sick of seeing the same junk over and over.. G1 was great yeah but that was the 80's man, got to wake up its 2007.. G1 is history let grandpa retire in peace and let the new come in and take over.. Im a G1-er from the beginning and im glad they did what they did to all the robots in the movie.

I guess their marketing worked. Michael Bay won. A G1er now thinks the jiggsaw-formers are superior to the originals. I will now go eat my hat. Sad face 1,000,000

Their marketing worked? Not on me, I'm not buying any of those movie toys, they suck harder than Wheelie's rhymes. Giving in to the whole brainwashing -"boxy" bad, "roaches" are in!.., now that's just silly.

Nah, seriously, I love my G1 designs, and BW designs, etc, but I'm just not feeling it with the movie. I'm sure they must be better looking on the big screen, but that's it, I don't want the ugly movie toys, but that's another topic.

I think all in all, Smith did a really nice job, really amazing job!

Why, for the love of Primus, couldn't Michael Smith do the movie instead of Michael Bay. Proud I am of Smith's work. Sad am I for teh movie. -_-

Hot_Rod wrote:I really like this footage. If a fan can do that, I could only imagine what a real Pro studio could do with a design like that!

They would have to modify the material in the face a bit though. That is the only thing really holding it back from total 3D 'in our world' kind of appearence.

But still, this is a great start to show what could have been done and then developed for the movie.

Hollywood does NOT know best! If they did, they never would have tried to give Superman a Black leather suite and have him live in outer space using his belt as a sword weapon! :puke Glad that movie never got made!

No truer words have been spoken in these Thread.

the wing were a bit much but other than that i like it. im still siding with the models for the movie though.

Yeah, That freakin Rocks!!! It does look pretty real, especially when the bot turns around and you can see his back towards the end of the clip. It made me feel like i was out side standing there watching it in real life. Good job Mr. Smith!!! Cheers!!!!

clumsy transformer but eventually he got better

what would be cool is if mr.smith made his versions of, lets say, prime, screamer, jazz, and bumblebee and then compare them to their fugly movie counterparts. then we'll truly see how retarded and clueless bay and his team was and is. the bottomline is that michael smith is a tf fan and bay and everyone else involved never were no matter what they claim. if we got a director who actually was a fan and knew the history and actually respected our opinions it would have been a whole different ballgame but instead we have the biggest debacle ever. hey michael, i hope you keep making these great vids so i can have some hope for a future live action movie.