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Well if the comic book version of the G1 can be very violent then they can do one for tv!Starscream's Girl wrote:MONKEYBOT wrote:Duo Prime wrote:Starscream's Girl wrote:Godzilla wrote:But u know whhat I mean though right? Nothing explicict but dark, violent and some language.Starscream's Girl wrote:Maybe in the furture they can make an adult one. Afterall, TF's are going strong at the moment.
I know what ya mean. And I was thinking, if they can make a movie rated PG-13 (and hasbro has no problem) then why can't they make a PG toon in the furture.
Yeah, with the style sort of like Gundam Wing/Macross. With a bit more maturity too the show. The first season of G1 was a bit edgy. I just watched it last night, and it really has alot of near deaths, ultra-robot violence, and totally disaterous situations. Seems like everything after that just got more kiddiefied. They have to know the fans of G1 and Beast Wars are grown up enough to at leats get somthing thats not for little children. They could do one for the little ones, and then have a late night version for the rest of us. Then make two seperat toy-lines, and make double the money. Makes perfect sense to me.
I like what your saying but I wouldn't hold my breath
We can always dream.
Ultra Markus wrote:the design looks simple..
I say give it a chance.. couldn't be any worse than the RID cartoon
Kranix-76 wrote:A few points that will undoubtedly irk some people:
1.) There will never be an 'adult' cartoon. Transformers has been, remains, and will remain a toy-based franchise, and as much as the fandom likes to consider its size to be worthy of special attention, the truth is there ain't that many of us to justify it. If deep, mature storylines are what you're lookin' for, then the best bet is the comic books (which, most anyone can argue, are meant for us in the older age bracket). The best we can hope for is another Beast Wars-style of writing: appealing and entertaining to kids, adolescents, and adults alike. And really--it's better that way. Optimus Prime sticks out in my memories as a hero not because he was a fierce warrior who ripped apart Decpticons on the battlefield--but because he was the good ol' hero as a kid, and a symbol of the 'just, compassionate hero' as an adult.
2.) The show isn't necessarily going to be mindless drivel. If I recall correctly, the new plot of the series will focus on a new Autobot taking the helm of the Autobots--a young character who will possess the memories and wisdom of Optimus Prime, as well as his general likeness and name. If that is still true, then already there's an interesting story element to this new series already: living in the shadow of greatness. Yeah, it might not be brooding, dark, and sophisticated, but it might just be enough to make ya wonder; no way of knowing until the show premires.
3.) The new design is not the end of the world. Not only is it just one picture, it's a bloody awkward action pose. From the looks of things (and the general "action" of the pitch), it looks almost as though Prime is lunging forward--so there's going to be a distortion of perspective based on that alone. If we get to see it standing erect and at-attention (like the old bios from the Marvel comics), then maybe it'll make more sense, and more of the Optimus design we're used to will come out. Until there are more shots of it, there's little that can really be said.
And finally, one last point before I leave myself to the flames: fans as we all are, this isn't for us. It's for the kids. And if it turns out that we don't have to turn to comic books for the kind of deep stories we want, then hey, that's groovy, too.
Kranix-76 wrote:A few points that will undoubtedly irk some people:
1.) There will never be an 'adult' cartoon. Transformers has been, remains, and will remain a toy-based franchise, and as much as the fandom likes to consider its size to be worthy of special attention, the truth is there ain't that many of us to justify it. If deep, mature storylines are what you're lookin' for, then the best bet is the comic books (which, most anyone can argue, are meant for us in the older age bracket). The best we can hope for is another Beast Wars-style of writing: appealing and entertaining to kids, adolescents, and adults alike. And really--it's better that way. Optimus Prime sticks out in my memories as a hero not because he was a fierce warrior who ripped apart Decpticons on the battlefield--but because he was the good ol' hero as a kid, and a symbol of the 'just, compassionate hero' as an adult.
2.) The show isn't necessarily going to be mindless drivel. If I recall correctly, the new plot of the series will focus on a new Autobot taking the helm of the Autobots--a young character who will possess the memories and wisdom of Optimus Prime, as well as his general likeness and name. If that is still true, then already there's an interesting story element to this new series already: living in the shadow of greatness. Yeah, it might not be brooding, dark, and sophisticated, but it might just be enough to make ya wonder; no way of knowing until the show premires.
3.) The new design is not the end of the world. Not only is it just one picture, it's a bloody awkward action pose. From the looks of things (and the general "action" of the pitch), it looks almost as though Prime is lunging forward--so there's going to be a distortion of perspective based on that alone. If we get to see it standing erect and at-attention (like the old bios from the Marvel comics), then maybe it'll make more sense, and more of the Optimus design we're used to will come out. Until there are more shots of it, there's little that can really be said.
And finally, one last point before I leave myself to the flames: fans as we all are, this isn't for us. It's for the kids. And if it turns out that we don't have to turn to comic books for the kind of deep stories we want, then hey, that's groovy, too.
Your not serious?! Oh yeah i'm not watching that show at all!ZoneDaiatlas wrote:If you think the look and style of Transformers: Heros is F-Up then wait until you hear how they transform? They don't transform at all but spin around just like the Tazmanian Devil from Warner Bro's Cartoons...
Godzilla wrote:Your not serious?! Oh yeah i'm not watching that show at all!ZoneDaiatlas wrote:If you think the look and style of Transformers: Heros is F-Up then wait until you hear how they transform? They don't transform at all but spin around just like the Tazmanian Devil from Warner Bro's Cartoons...
skywarp-2 wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:the design looks simple..
I say give it a chance.. couldn't be any worse than the RID cartoon
the only problem with RID was the dubbing.. the art and design of the show were realisitc... this stuff is gonnaz look like Danny phantom and Teen titans cyborg's illigitimate love child.. what a waste of tv air time..
NightFall wrote:Funny, we are those kids that they targeted before, why not give the same respect to our new generation? Is our future kids really that ignorant, I think not.
Besides, the future is unclear, and a future adult theme cartoon of Transformers, can be very unlikely. I think it can be a possiablity, and why not? There is major dollars in it. If not, well at least we have our books by David CIAN, OR Simon Furman, Alexander Potter, etc.
skywarp-2 wrote:I have a problem with your number 2, it statesa quite clearly in this new article that the series will not have fluidity and that each episode will be different.. so what chances do we have to see a leader grow if the episodes dfon't link together and there is no progreession of story, just mindless good guy vs bad guy battles, one right after another..??
Ultra Markus wrote:the design looks simple..
I say give it a chance.. couldn't be any worse than the RID cartoon
MONKEYBOT wrote:NightFall wrote:Funny, we are those kids that they targeted before, why not give the same respect to our new generation? Is our future kids really that ignorant, I think not.MONKEYBOT wrote:Are you so sure? It feels to me these days that common sense is a lost art!!! And I'm not even refering to the kids!!!!!! But a fair and logical point anyway
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