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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby kirbenvost » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:24 pm

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CyberAutobotProwl wrote:It may "shelfwarm" due to the buyers for certain unintelligent retail stores, but i think Hasbro is on the right track and doing the best they can in getting out product everyone might like at some point.

seems like a lot of negativism has been expressed to what is something that i see as a positive trend.

toys must change in order to capture new kids interests, and we are only along for the ride.
If they ever start making serious figures under something like a DC Direct version of transformers I could see complaining more about toys made for adults that were marketed incorrectly.

But I really think adults that also like what are designed for kids/young adults need to be as flexible as possible to really exist for a long time in this hobby.

I mean the Bumblebee suit appears to have a "howitzer type gun platform" for a base mode for bee to fire away from.

Really this isnt far from ideas that put out Erector and other microbot bases.

I see a lot of complaints are maybe just not liking power suits and bee himself.

Me, i like them now and again.


The main problem is that Hasbro is oversaturating the market with Bumblebee figures. Every case of deluxes has 3 Bumblebees, with 1 of each of the other figures, or two if we're lucky. In my area, most of the Toys R Us stores (there are several) have a minimum of 20 Bumblebees on the shelf in deluxe class alone, spanning 3 different lines, and this is immediately after a major clearance sale It's absolutely ridiculous, and I don't know why/how Hasbro hasn't realized that they're releasing way too many. If they would even out the case assortments, then everyone (including kids) could have a variety of figures instead of just a wall of Bumblebees every time you step into the store. Everything else sells out right away because the collectors rush in and get them, because they know there's only 1 per case. At this point, the retailers are not to blame because they don't have control over case assortments. I'm sure they're just as sick of Bumblebee as we are. And the general public can't be that far off either, judging by how many Bees are still on the pegs.

So I'm fully expecting this Bumblebee Battle suit to be 3 per case with 1 Optimus Prime or something ridiculous like that. My beef is that it's yet another Bumblebee, instead of something new. The problem is that the toys are not changing, they're stagnating by releasing endless versions of Bumblebee and Optimus Prime in every single wave, and not giving other characters a chance. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:48 pm

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Twitchythe3rd wrote:It's a 'Bee within a 'Bee.

Beeception.



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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby CrimsonPrime » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:28 pm

Okay I get the too much bumblebee part. I totally support that. But are you guys seriously blaming Hasbro for releasing so little Decepticons? Do you even watch the show? There's barely any decepticon if it's not for the shit-load of vehicons. Let's see here's some so far and what toy will they be release in :-

Megatron - Commander,Deluxe,Voyager
Starscream - Commander,Deluxe,Voyager
Soundwave - Deluxe
Knockout - Legion,Deluxe
Breakdown - Legion,Voyager
Vehicon - Legion,2 Deluxe
Airachnid - Deluxe
Dreadwing - Commander,Voyager
Skyquake - Commander,Voyager

Forgive me if I miss a 1 or 2 but that's pretty much every Cons in TF Prime. I dont see why you're complaining. From what I see all the Cons already got their toy form. They even release 2 version of Vehicons for christ sake. Yes we all agree that Megs should have a Leader class but then again we dont know that for sure yet. Who knows when TF Prime hits Season 3 we will be getting one.

So...Yeah...Conclusion? I dont think any complaint is needed about the fact there are too little of Cons. And if you do want to blame someone, blame the producers of TF Prime.

PS : Unicron is pure evil but he's not in Decepticon so...Yeah xP....
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby DISCHARGE » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:30 pm

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kirbenvost wrote:
CyberAutobotProwl wrote:It may "shelfwarm" due to the buyers for certain unintelligent retail stores, but i think Hasbro is on the right track and doing the best they can in getting out product everyone might like at some point.

seems like a lot of negativism has been expressed to what is something that i see as a positive trend.

toys must change in order to capture new kids interests, and we are only along for the ride.
If they ever start making serious figures under something like a DC Direct version of transformers I could see complaining more about toys made for adults that were marketed incorrectly.

But I really think adults that also like what are designed for kids/young adults need to be as flexible as possible to really exist for a long time in this hobby.

I mean the Bumblebee suit appears to have a "howitzer type gun platform" for a base mode for bee to fire away from.

Really this isnt far from ideas that put out Erector and other microbot bases.

I see a lot of complaints are maybe just not liking power suits and bee himself.

Me, i like them now and again.


The main problem is that Hasbro is oversaturating the market with Bumblebee figures. Every case of deluxes has 3 Bumblebees, with 1 of each of the other figures, or two if we're lucky. In my area, most of the Toys R Us stores (there are several) have a minimum of 20 Bumblebees on the shelf in deluxe class alone, spanning 3 different lines, and this is immediately after a major clearance sale It's absolutely ridiculous, and I don't know why/how Hasbro hasn't realized that they're releasing way too many. If they would even out the case assortments, then everyone (including kids) could have a variety of figures instead of just a wall of Bumblebees every time you step into the store. Everything else sells out right away because the collectors rush in and get them, because they know there's only 1 per case. At this point, the retailers are not to blame because they don't have control over case assortments. I'm sure they're just as sick of Bumblebee as we are. And the general public can't be that far off either, judging by how many Bees are still on the pegs.

So I'm fully expecting this Bumblebee Battle suit to be 3 per case with 1 Optimus Prime or something ridiculous like that. My beef is that it's yet another Bumblebee, instead of something new. The problem is that the toys are not changing, they're stagnating by releasing endless versions of Bumblebee and Optimus Prime in every single wave, and not giving other characters a chance. :HEADHURTS:


Wait until the next Transformers show. It will be Bumblebee: the Last Transformer(or Bumblebee and Friends). Alone in a universe that has hunted the Transformers into extinction Bumblebee fights for personal survival. He searches for the Matrix of creation, not sure if it exists or not.
Only with the matrix can he hope to bring his race back from the brink of oblivion.
Scouring the galaxies with a band of space faring dolphins Bumblebee must outwit the humans who hunt him for his demise and the other alien species who hunt him for reward.

Get ready to spend, every toy will be either Bumblebee or one of those awesome human figures that have zero articulation
Bumblebee will come in all class sizes, and some new ones just for this line. The series will last for no less than 5 years. We shall call this the sea of yellow.
I see this as the only course of action. Let's face it Bumblebee is the most popular and clearly the only one that kids want, so why not engineer the toy line and series in that fashion?
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby kirbenvost » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:39 pm

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That may not be much of an exaggeration. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby gavinfuzzy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:41 pm

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CrimsonPrime wrote:Okay I get the too much bumblebee part. I totally support that. But are you guys seriously blaming Hasbro for releasing so little Decepticons? Do you even watch the show? There's barely any decepticon if it's not for the shit-load of vehicons. Let's see here's some so far and what toy will they be release in :-

Megatron - Commander,Deluxe,Voyager
Starscream - Commander,Deluxe,Voyager
Soundwave - Deluxe
Knockout - Legion,Deluxe
Breakdown - Legion,Voyager
Vehicon - Legion,2 Deluxe
Airachnid - Deluxe
Dreadwing - Commander,Voyager
Skyquake - Commander,Voyager

Forgive me if I miss a 1 or 2 but that's pretty much every Cons in TF Prime. I dont see why you're complaining. From what I see all the Cons already got their toy form. They even release 2 version of Vehicons for christ sake. Yes we all agree that Megs should have a Leader class but then again we dont know that for sure yet. Who knows when TF Prime hits Season 3 we will be getting one.

So...Yeah...Conclusion? I dont think any complaint is needed about the fact there are too little of Cons. And if you do want to blame someone, blame the producers of TF Prime.

PS : Unicron is pure evil but he's not in Decepticon so...Yeah xP....


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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby Va'al » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:14 am

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DISCHARGE wrote:Wait until the next Transformers show. It will be Bumblebee: the Last Transformer(or Bumblebee and Friends). Alone in a universe that has hunted the Transformers into extinction Bumblebee fights for personal survival. He searches for the Matrix of creation, not sure if it exists or not.
Only with the matrix can he hope to bring his race back from the brink of oblivion.
Scouring the galaxies with a band of space faring dolphins Bumblebee must outwit the humans who hunt him for his demise and the other alien species who hunt him for reward.

Get ready to spend, every toy will be either Bumblebee or one of those awesome human figures that have zero articulation
Bumblebee will come in all class sizes, and some new ones just for this line. The series will last for no less than 5 years. We shall call this the sea of yellow.
I see this as the only course of action. Let's face it Bumblebee is the most popular and clearly the only one that kids want, so why not engineer the toy line and series in that fashion?


Not to mention it would save on voice acting.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby Flashwave » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:36 pm

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So, am I the only one looking at these exo suits and thinking "Oh boy! Baseformer Repaint Fodder!"? Anyone? Maybe an avenue for someone to sell a replacemtn head instead of the helmet?
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby DISCHARGE » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:58 pm

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Flashwave wrote:So, am I the only one looking at these exo suits and thinking "Oh boy! Baseformer Repaint Fodder!"? Anyone? Maybe an avenue for someone to sell a replacemtn head instead of the helmet?


Personally, I am not a fan of exo-suits that look like the characters piloting them. I like the weapon mode, not the Bumblebee mode, and no I don't want this thing repainted into another Bumblebee just for repaints sake.

The Drill tank and Starhammer are both interesting playsets, this thing is really weak. I guarantee you this thing beat out a much nicer toy that we will never know about.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby PumpkinSwirl » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:00 pm

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I like bumblebee, I really do. He was actually one of my favorite characters in the movie series. But currently there's two problems. 1. He sucks in Transformers: Prime and 2. They make way too many toys of him. You'd think they'd realize that there's always 20 bumblebees on the shelf that are never bought.
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Re: New Transformers Prime Cyberverse Play Set Revealed: Bumblebee Battle Suit

Postby Noideaforaname » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:32 pm

CrimsonPrime wrote:Okay I get the too much bumblebee part. I totally support that. But are you guys seriously blaming Hasbro for releasing so little Decepticons? Do you even watch the show? There's barely any decepticon if it's not for the shit-load of vehicons. Let's see here's some so far and what toy will they be release in :-

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FE had limited release and was cut short, the ones on the shelves now are shortpacked, and we haven't even seen finished versions of the others (I don't believe we've seen anything of Airachnid yet). And of course, Dreadwing's just a repaint of Skyquake.
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