The Energon Pub

News Credits: 2 · Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:13 pm

ChocolateThunder wrote:Anyone tried the new weapons yet? Was working to see if I could salavge bb's on a couple of my guys but have been fighting avoiders all morning. When the do hit they do about average damage versus other weapons so maybe my bb ninja needs something else.

Opinions on DCEL's?

I've heard Black Magic is very slow to recharge. Confirmation?

I know from trying rocket launchers are.

Laser Pistols worked well for me, good recharge and decent damage.

Anyone else want to pass along some knowledge?
CT

Direct Current Electrical Laser is your best bet to replace Battle Blades, although the recharge is slower. Energon Crossbow may be the better choice in that scenario. Similarly, the Electric Cannon is an alternative to Dol Lasers, also with a slower recharge.

Experimenting with the new SKL weapons would be a worthwhile adventure. Otherwise, everything's looking straightforward in terms of damage - it's just a matter of recharge. That is an experiment we may have to keep ourselves posted on.

Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:59 pm

Anybody got any advice for this guy? I'll take anything. Any alt mode, any configuration, any weapon. I'm talking anything. He's losing everything, so he's gotta go.

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:55 am

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For tactical consideration, OS has downgraded the effects of STR on punch/kick, so those melee attacks are going to be weaker. Makes the more powerful "no recharge" weapons look like a better option now.

Me, Grimlock! wrote:Anybody got any advice for this guy? I'll take anything. Any alt mode, any configuration, any weapon. I'm talking anything. He's losing everything, so he's gotta go.

If you want to keep that alt, all you can really do at this point is drop some SKL/INT points and max out his FRP, I'd say. However, it's been my experience that everything except Strafe Tanks get throttled at L10, so you might want to reconfigure.

News Credits: 2 · Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:43 pm

Scantron wrote:http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25272&sid=

For tactical consideration, OS has downgraded the effects of STR on punch/kick, so those melee attacks are going to be weaker. Makes the more powerful "no recharge" weapons look like a better option now.

Me, Grimlock! wrote:Anybody got any advice for this guy? I'll take anything. Any alt mode, any configuration, any weapon. I'm talking anything. He's losing everything, so he's gotta go.

If you want to keep that alt, all you can really do at this point is drop some SKL/INT points and max out his FRP, I'd say. However, it's been my experience that everything except Strafe Tanks get throttled at L10, so you might want to reconfigure.

That ALT is core; resettng won't lose it.

The STR reduction is absolutely slagging some of my previous best Bots. If you don't have 6 STR and some Ram tactic, just STR is not worth your time. 5 or lower just isn't enough anymore to do significant damage by itself.

Oh well, time to reconfigure...

Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:03 pm

Wingspan wrote:That ALT is core; resettng won't lose it.

Yes, I meant it as "if you like that alt and want to keep using it for that character even after resetting".

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:48 pm

Scantron wrote:If you want to keep that alt

Wingspan wrote:That ALT is core; resettng won't lose it.

I'm in no way committed to the alt. In fact, I'd like to go back to his previous Optimus semi. But I'm going to try your suggestions, especially making him a strafe tank. See what I can play with to get him on the winning side a little more. Thanks for the help and, if there are any more, keep the tips coming! :grin:

Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:59 pm

Me, Grimlock! wrote:I'm in no way committed to the alt. In fact, I'd like to go back to his previous Optimus semi. But I'm going to try your suggestions, especially making him a strafe tank. See what I can play with to get him on the winning side a little more. Thanks for the help and, if there are any more, keep the tips coming!

Only other suggestion I'd make, looking at the character's current set-up might be to switch his CRG and END points. I haven't seen much difference between 9 and 10 CRG, especially in the Arena, but the extra END point definitely helps.

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:01 pm

Scantron wrote:Only other suggestion I'd make, looking at the character's current set-up might be to switch his CRG and END points. I haven't seen much difference between 9 and 10 CRG, especially in the Arena, but the extra END point definitely helps.

You must have jjjuuussstttt seen him. I switched him about 5 minutes ago. I'll give that a whirl, and he's only a couple of fights away from another point anyway, so I can have both at 10 soon (unless rank is more worthwhile at 10, but I hear tell it ain't). He's also at level 9 right now, but level 10 is, again, only a couple of fights away.

Provided they're wins.

EDIT: Okay, now he's a level 10. And I made the switch.

News Credits: 2 · Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:27 pm

Scantron wrote:
Wingspan wrote:That ALT is core; resettng won't lose it.

Yes, I meant it as "if you like that alt and want to keep using it for that character even after resetting".

Ah. So I guess that makes me Wheelie-for-the-day.

Back to the main conversation...if only I had those configuration decisions...How to make a Level 10 whoop mecha-toosh.

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:38 pm

Me, Grimlock wrote:...unless rank is more worthwhile at 10, but I hear tell it ain't...

AFAIK, there's no new armors above RNK 8, except that listing for The Fallen's armor at RNK 11...which we can't get anyway.

Wingspan wrote:Back to the main conversation...if only I had those configuration decisions...How to make a Level 10 whoop mecha-toosh.

Actually, L10 starts to get a little boring for configuring characters, I've found. About halfway through, you end up with all the good stats maxed out and it's just a case of deciding which useless stat to dump points into, since INT doesn't do anything, RNK is worthless above 8 and SKL is unnecessary above 4 for a Strafe Tank (as pretty much every other high-level weapon is out-classed by the Gatling Gun).

News Credits: 2 · Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:44 pm

Scantron wrote:
Wingspan wrote:Back to the main conversation...if only I had those configuration decisions...How to make a Level 10 whoop mecha-toosh.

Actually, L10 starts to get a little boring for configuring characters, I've found. About halfway through, you end up with all the good stats maxed out and it's just a case of deciding which useless stat to dump points into, since INT doesn't do anything, RNK is worthless above 8 and SKL is unnecessary above 4 for a Strafe Tank (as pretty much every other high-level weapon is out-classed by the Gatling Gun).

So we really need more high level FP / SKL weapons, INT to work (in terms of battle strategies), RNK to provide more armors, and RNK to provide more impact on strategies as well.

It seems like levels 3-5 are where things begin to get fun which lasts for a time until things are maxed out.

Well, one thought, has anyone every built a maxed Battle Station or Emergency Vehicle with maxed Repair? At least a 10 INT would be put to use there for once.

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:03 pm

Wingspan wrote:So we really need more high level FP / SKL weapons...

I think it would help a lot if the Gatling Gun were depowered a little, rather than simply adding more higher-level weapons (not that I'd complain about more variety). As it stands, the Gatling Gun is "perfect", with the best possible recharge rate and the best possible damage range, so there's no need to ever use anything else. The Fusion Cannon should have maximum power, as the most expensive weapon in the game, but it's currently weaker than the third-most-expensive.

It seems like levels 3-5 are where things begin to get fun which lasts for a time until things are maxed out.

Levels 6 - 9 aren't bad either. Even with a few things maxed out, there's still some flexibility in set-up and experimentation. Strafe Tanks dominate with dual offensive tactics at L10, though, so other configs end up getting slaughtered.

Well, one thought, has anyone every built a maxed Battle Station or Emergency Vehicle with maxed Repair? At least a 10 INT would be put to use there for once.

Dark Ops, on the 'Con side, had his namesake as an Emergency Vehicle with 10 INT back when the Computational Type robot modes were allowing for uber-Repairers, but he's reset to a Strafe Tank now. The highest Repair-capable character in the game right now is my character, Laser Scalpel (Emergency Vehicle), who has maxed Repair and 9 INT. Battle Station might be an interesting set-up to try with him in the future; might improve his mission scores :-?

News Credits: 7 · Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:26 pm

*brushes dust off thread*

Ok, I've got a question: I've been noticing that my 'Bot Steelwraith has been somewhat lackluster for a while now, so I'm thinking about resetting him and giving him a new config. He currently has about 357k XP and has 5 STR, 4 SPD, 1 END, 3 CRG, 3 FRP, 1 SKL, and 4 Ram. I was thinking of changing him to 4 STR, 4 END, 4 CRG, 3 FRP, 1 SKL, and 3 Ram, which would cost 349k XP. What do y'all think of this config? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:24 am

Do u wanna keep the tank altmode and the energon crossbow?

News Credits: 7 · Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:22 am

I can live without the altmode, I'll just pick it up again when it comes around. But I do want to try and keep the crossbow so he can dish out some relatively good damage.

EDIT: After going back to the calculator and moving things around, I found that if I were to cut out the point in Skill and one point in Firepower, I could put one point in two of the three major stats I mentioned earlier (Strength, Courage, and Endurance) and I could put a point into Ram as well.

Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:26 am

I would go with what you found out later. The Dol Laser Rifle or the Semi Automatic Rifle are still good weapons to have. Here is my suggestion for a set up:

Strength 5
Intelligence 0
Speed 3
Endurance 2
Rank 0
Courage 5
Firepower 2
Skill 0
Ram 4

This set up sill give you a decent weapon with a Semi-Automatic Rifle (€10,000) or a Dol-Laser Rifle (€2,200). Both being no recharge and moderate to heavy damage. The next stat you could upgrade would be Ram to 5 when you get to 372 kXP. This gives you a good rammer configuration. From there on out I could concentrate on getting courage, ram, strength, and speed up another point (probably in that order). then you can concentrate on getting the stats for the energon cross bow. Upgrade endurance and rank as you see fit.

News Credits: 7 · Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:39 am

Cool, I'll try that. Thanks a lot

Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:41 pm

No problem. Let me know how it works out for you.

News Credits: 7 · Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:11 am

Evolution Prime wrote:No problem. Let me know how it works out for you.

Works good so far

Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:46 pm

I'm looking to 'off' one of my characters, Funk. I'm just not as enamoured with him, too much like Jazz, etc. etc. I've decided to make him into a Sentinel (Omega Supreme Battle Station alt) and have a decent story to go along with it, but I want some build advice on him.

I only have 1,757,191xp to work with and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions? I've never done a pure strafer before let alone one with repair options (not really a high priority for me for the character but useful in missions) and I'd like to make him somewhat survivable as a level 4.

Suggestions anyone?

Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:07 pm

Here is my suggestion.

STR - 4
INT - 0
SPD - 6
END - 4
RNK - 0
CRG - 8
FPR - 5
SKL - 0

Strafe - 8
Repair - not accessible until INT = 2.

This still should give him good speed for strafing and higher courage for more attacks. This uses up 1,656,000xp. When you reach 1,912,000xp, you can upgrade either speed, endurace, courage, or strafe. It depends on how you want it set up.

Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:55 pm

Hmm.. looks like a plan EP.

Looks like Funk'll be going bye bye after I get his new backstory written.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:57 pm

I've considered going with a jet-only team. I figure I should invest in strafe and speed to get the best results. Any other ideas?

News Credits: 8 · Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:04 pm

JaAm wrote:I've considered going with a jet-only team. I figure I should invest in strafe and speed to get the best results. Any other ideas?

I'd start out with "airplane" and work from there. Being that the xp costs can get high. a lot of vets will tell you not to go with strafe in the low levels, I;'m the exception to the rule. With strafe, keep firepower 1-2 points even with strafe (FPR:2, STF:3) I'd keep avoid as a backup, can't do any good in a fight with your wings clipped everytime you get in the air.