Also doesn't help that Takara's mistaken her for one.fenrir72 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Also doesn't help that Takara's mistaken her for one.fenrir72 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also doesn't help that Takara's mistaken her for one.fenrir72 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Ignorance?
Plus, anybody remember Season 3's The Face of the Nijika:
shockblast2 wrote:Don't blame that abomination on the fans. They voted for the attributes, not aesthetics.
Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Metro Prime wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Don't blame that abomination on the fans. They voted for the attributes, not aesthetics.
Nobody was being blamed for Windblade's design, which you (and only you) feel the need to complain about as always. I just have a problem with so many gosh-darn people misidentifying the basic aesthetics behind it.
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william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:Generalizations are, generally, not the best idea. It's fine to express one's own opinion. I would be careful to associate that opinion with "most people" without conducting some sort of poll or something...
shockblast2 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Why do people keep insisting that a damn alien robot could be A)a female or B) would even assimilate the look of something it has never even seen.
I know why. Because the publishers of Transformers comics assembled an all woman team to make her comic. And in doing so they have made themselves sexists, just to try to attract fem nazis to their book.
The whole concept of fembots is just ridiculous. Aliens robots have no genitals nor do they give birth. So, why would it have boobs or curves? Robots are not male or female. The idea of gender in Transformers is one of the stupidest subjects in fiction. And that is saying something, because there are some really odd ideologies in the realm of science fiction.
Metro Prime wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I SERIOUSLY would have preferred that knight head design to the geisha one.
It's a kabuki mask. Why do people keep insisting Windblade is a geisha?
Why do people keep insisting that a damn alien robot could be A)a female or B) would even assimilate the look of something it has never even seen.
I know why. Because the publishers of Transformers comics assembled an all woman team to make her comic. And in doing so they have made themselves sexists, just to try to attract fem nazis to their book.
The whole concept of fembots is just ridiculous. Aliens robots have no genitals nor do they give birth. So, why would it have boobs or curves? Robots are not male or female. The idea of gender in Transformers is one of the stupidest subjects in fiction. And that is saying something, because there are some really odd ideologies in the realm of science fiction.
They have masculine builds, voices, pronouns, and (occasionally) facial hair. And fembots have been around since the second season of G1. Don't tell me they don't have genders.
And how are the people at IDW feminazis? Because they tried to write a decent female character who isn't Arcee?
Also, I'm a guy. Just so you know.
william-james88 wrote:The set of figures containing Wingblade has yet to be sighted in Canada and it's too bad because I am really looking forward to this figure. I think it looks great and I love the style and personality given to it. I am simply talking about the characteristics found on the toy (I have not read the comics) and the design which I find quite interesting. There have been several Samurai Transformers in the past (of which I have a collection http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/will88888888/20141012_204141.jpg) so it is fun to finally get a female embodiment of that traditional culture.
I never for one moment wondered why the Transformers had sexes, why they had noses (do they breathe?), if Optimus has a mouth under that plate in the original cartoon, or even how they are living machines. They are a fun idea to sell the best kind of toys ever (2 toys for the price of one). I don't understand the need to add "logic" to certain things when the subject matter was never intended for that. Before wondering the assumptions of alien sentient robots taking on traits from human cultures, you have to wonder the assumptions of there being sentient transforming alien robots in the first place. Let's not fall into this infernal spyral and simply enjoy these great toys.
Delta Magnus wrote:The knight design was pretty cool, but honestly I'm glad they went with the Japanese look. I think it makes her really unique.
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
shockblast2 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:The knight design was pretty cool, but honestly I'm glad they went with the Japanese look. I think it makes her really unique.
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
It is not unique. AOE Drift has the same type of Japanese look.
Geisha or Kabuki? If you are into that kind of thing then I guess it is important. To me they are the same. As in I could care less. I just think having a transformer look like a human painting their face is kinda stupid. Especially when said transformer has never even seen a Kabuki/Geisha person.
Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, for Hasbro to say this thing represents the fans choices is depressing.
I personally liked the name Wraith and it could have worked for a Transformer that uses invisibility, kinda like Mirage. Not some silly looking thing who brings a sword to a gun fight.
I think one of the designers must have a Jaopanese Geisha girl fetish. I mean, why would you do that?
shockblast2 wrote:Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Delta Magnus wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:The knight design was pretty cool, but honestly I'm glad they went with the Japanese look. I think it makes her really unique.
Also, to settle the whole debate, here's actual kabuki makeup:
Which is much closer to Windblade's face than geisha makeup, which doesn't have the stripes (The hair is very geisha-esque though).
It is not unique. AOE Drift has the same type of Japanese look.
...Who came after Windblade. In any case the point is moot as the 2 look totally different. Drift had a samurai look whilst Windblade has a kabuki performer style.Geisha or Kabuki? If you are into that kind of thing then I guess it is important. To me they are the same. As in I could care less. I just think having a transformer look like a human painting their face is kinda stupid. Especially when said transformer has never even seen a Kabuki/Geisha person.
Kabuki and Geisha are completely different things. Kabuki is an ancient style of Japanese theatre known for energetic performance styles and dramatic costumes/makeup. Geisha are female entertainers who attend high-class events and sing songs, play music and make conversation.
And by your logic, Bumblebee can't be called that because the Transformers have never encountered bumblebees yet. For that matter, none of them should have humanoid faces- they should all just have Shockwave-style cameras.Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, for Hasbro to say this thing represents the fans choices is depressing.
Hasbro gave out a multiple-choice survey on what the fans wanted in a new TF. Windblade incorporates all the elements the fans wanted. So yeah, it does incorporate the fan's choices.I personally liked the name Wraith and it could have worked for a Transformer that uses invisibility, kinda like Mirage. Not some silly looking thing who brings a sword to a gun fight.
Well I guess Grimlock better retire seeing as he's best known for using a sword. I haven't read the comics, but IIRC Windblae's choice not to use a gun is actually a big part of her character.I think one of the designers must have a Jaopanese Geisha girl fetish. I mean, why would you do that?
Because maybe they wanted to do a design that wasn't a generic robot? You don't have to have a "fetish" to incorporate something new into a design. Honestly you're bing kinda racist.
ScottyP wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Maybe I am being too logical, but it doesn't make sense to me.
I don't want to go over my opinion on gender and Transformers for the 80th time. So instead, I've gone the Occam's Razor route to point out that you've answered your worry, in the above quote, all on your own Don't overthink it and try to just have fun.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Genders =/= sexes.
Super robot lifeforms (or autonomous robotic organisms) don't have sexes, but they do have genders.
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