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Kruger is the one who gave us the gift of 'humor' in RotF - that is not exciting news...

"we have a great transformers 3 story" yeah i doubt that. What ever happened to him taking time off? I really hope this is the last bayformers. We really need a new movieverse. After 3 wait about 3 years if the world is still here start a new movie franchise. Just forget that bayformers was ever made.

Please don't forget Prowl, Wheeljack and Sockwave at least put those 3 on the new movie!

I agree with ClassyNX01's points. Point 4 especially because the one thing guaranteed is that there will be action scenes. Make the action part of the narrative, make each action scene mean something more to the story. I think Bay had good intent with the action in RotF, which was more of a "let's make it real and dirty" approach. Chaos and brutality were there as well as showing the "mortality" of characters. Well done action, however, can have elements of realism and dramatic exaggeration.

I'm going to be optimistic about TF3. I'd rather hope that it be good than predict that it'll be terrible. Even when the plot details come out, the final theatrical cut we see in theatres in 2011 is what I'm concerned with.

I wonder if they'll use any of my ideas...

But please, Bay, give the film a decent subtitle! I'm sick to death of these bloody 'of the' movies; where's the imagination? Half of the Star Wars saga is guilty of the cliche-crime ('Return of the Jedi', 'Attack of the Clones', 'Revenge of the Sith'), we had 'Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines' and 'The Lord of the Rings' trilogy must be the worst offending films (I know the books were written ages ago, but it, and the subtitles of the 1st and 3rd instalments, still add up)! Then we had 'Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'...oh yes, very original...

OK, I have to say something because its becoming utterly ridiculous. Those of you who are holding Michael Bay utterly responsible for how bad you think the Transformers film franchise to be need to just shut up.

Point of fact, regardless of whether you like Michael Bay's directorial style or not ... his job is to take the script that the WRITERS have created, to take the concept art that ARTISTS have created and try to make it all work together. But the biggest thing that needs to be remembered is that everything has to meet HASBRO'S approval first and foremost, not the director's, not the producer's ... HASBRO owns the rights and licenses for anything and everything associated with the Transformers line.

The reason that there was so much crude humor and what not was because they're also aiming at a younger audience. I mean look at HALF the shows on Cartoon Network, they're loaded with fart jokes and utter stupidity and other nonsense because THATS the target audience they're aiming out. So that's why they threw in the bits and pieces here and there to entertain the kids that went to see it. I'm not saying that Transformers RofT was great, but it wasn't the worst thing thats come across the silver screen either. But yes, lets hope that TF III has more Transformers and less long-distance relationships that take near death experiences to say "I love you."

I'm not gonna say that I'm not excited, but goddamn.
ROTF isn't even out on DVD yet!

I *KNEW* it!

As soon as I heard 2012, it was pure bullcrap.

Geez. Can any one of them just get the story straight and stick with it?

And I for one am glad that 3's coming in 2 years, because I (and many others) will grow tired of waiting for the next part of the story to come along. And so on, and so on.

Not to mention, we'll fall in love with a line like Universe or Animated, or whatever's coming, and they'll pull the rug out from under us again. (And I say this as a Bayverse fan!)

I loved ROTF, I really did, but let's get this over with so we can get the speculation, rumors, an fandom polarizing out of the way.

now for a year of new and GOOD transformers then back to bayclunkers

Seibertron wrote:Second, I have to admit that I was hoping for the 2012 date.

I have to agree, I think waiting until 2012 instead of rushing to 2011 would have been a better idea. I know Paramount wants to strike while the iron is hot, but really, but seriously, between Star Trek and Transformers alone, you'd think even they'd need a break.

The_Cybertronian_Emperor wrote:The reason that there was so much crude humor and what not was because they're also aiming at a younger audience. I mean look at HALF the shows on Cartoon Network, they're loaded with fart jokes and utter stupidity and other nonsense because THATS the target audience they're aiming out. So that's why they threw in the bits and pieces here and there to entertain the kids that went to see it.

I dunno, the crowd at the IMAX theater groaned audibly during certain parts of the movie (I can think of one in particular...)

hippymule wrote:now for a year of new and GOOD transformers then back to bayclunkers

Meh, 2010 will be full of Bay-ized versions of out-of-bayverse characters... Bludgeon, Lockdown, animated-movie Ratchet, Mindwipe, etc...

At least I'll have to stick to Takara figures and filling gaps of my G1-BW collection for the next 3 years.

GOOD i knew it was gonna be a year earlier.

i know theres gonna be no dinobots since bay hates en.... so do i, too much like the crappy power ranger things, but better by alot.... just not my taste. eh i hope theres different ones than bludgeon.

Okay, I think we should write an OFFICIAL Letter/forum DIRECTLY to them. I mean, seibertron's a pretty powerful source now ain't it? I know there's tons of what ifs and ideas and character lists, but we should make something that they could communicate with us Useful things, and not hate messages and stuff. Now's the time everything is getting set. It's the chance to speak up I think. Post some designs for Tidal wave, plot ideas that make sense and stuff, you know? I just don't want to see this series go down badly. If they had the tf fans at their disposal, then we'd get what we wanted. Especially since nothing is yet set in stone. The story could completely change like it did from the whole skorponok reviving Megatron and stuff.

Yea I cant wait for the next movie i thought it was going to be in 2012, but glad to see it coming out 2011,

Bay wrote:"Well its official: We have a great Transformers 3 story

So we know what this means. More T and A, d*ck and fart jokes, military love fests, robots with rendered testicles, and absolutely zero plot with hardly any focus on the Transformers which is ironic cuz these "films" are called Transformers. I think I'll wait til 3 is out on DVD before I suffer through more disappointment.

Let the fanboy wars commence!

you sons a bitches! tell us the story!
well i hope this has more robots than humans. i did like ROTF but there was too much crude humor but i can live with it.

okay so heres how it is...
the bayverse is okay. its gathering a new fanbase.

great.

but really isnt it getting a little... well bad? the second movie was great, i saw it twice, and i liked the humor but the whole devastator balls crack was a bit too much.

anyway, bring back animated. well not exactly animated, cuz that story was great and epic and all and should be expanded but the haste that they closed the story in filled in too many unanswered questions to continue. get a series going thats animated, more... manly looking (cuz lets face it, as cool as animated was, the robots looked GAY), and keeps the robot-centered story that it had.

if that doesnt get announced soon... well you can count on ol Autobot 13 rolling out the fanfiction series. Expect the first installment... say first saturday in november? i think thats the seventh. if nothings announced i will publish a chapter a week on my Heavy metal war page. feel free to continue to comment with any story ideas or character ideas... i want this to be as fan-involved as possible. send me a personal message if you want.

cya guys later.

So he's not taking a year off? Cool

Wow, so many ridiculous bay haters. First of all, Michael Bay doesn't care what anyone thinks, it is all about the money, and he'll do whatever he wants to do. Most of the stuff that happens on the scene is directed by him. The rest; The script, the designs, they're approved by Bay, but they're made by generically everyone else. If you're hating on Bay, you're hating on every Transformer fan that's worked to design the 2007 Movie as well as Revenge of the Fallen.

I'm tired of hearing this disenchanted crap. If all you are doing is complaining, then just don't bother showing up here. It isn't going to change and being hopeful for a 'better' movie in 2011 is nonsense, because it's directed by the same person, it will be in the same dimensions!

Put G1 in? How about this. G1's dead. It died a good 20 years ago. Bringing it back into the live film is like redoing Star Wars. This is what it is, a Transformers Universe on it's own. If you think Bay's giving Transformers a bad name, then you clearly have a short sense of time and memory. Transformers has existed for over 25 years, we've had good series, some bad series, yet all in all it brings fans, new and old, together to celebrate something that they enjoy.

Bay doesn't acknowledge Transformers lore? What? There's rules now? Like honestly, when the hell did that happen? If there were to be any rules in Transformers, Bay has acknowledged them all. Transformers transform. They interact with humans. They come from Cybertron. There are Autobots and Decepticons and they fight each other. Bay's representation of Transformers is as genuine as Animated's representation of the characters or Energon's representation of the characters. It is what it is, T-R-A-N-S-F-O-R-M-E-R-S.

Hate isn't going to get anywhere here. Michael Bay is still making Transformers 3, he'll make hundreds of millons, and Transformers will continue on in series after series. The best that can be done for you haters is not seeing the movie, and leaving news like this for people who enjoy Bay's work.

I for one, look forward to Transformers 3. Every bit of the universe that revolves around the Live Movies is an exciting change compared to the 2D characters we've seen for the past decades.

Blurrz wrote:Wow, so many ridiculous bay haters. First of all, Michael Bay doesn't care what anyone thinks, it is all about the money, and he'll do whatever he wants to do. Most of the stuff that happens on the scene is directed by him. The rest; The script, the designs, they're approved by Bay, but they're made by generically everyone else. If you're hating on Bay, you're hating on every Transformer fan that's worked to design the 2007 Movie as well as Revenge of the Fallen.

I'm tired of hearing this disenchanted crap. If all you are doing is complaining, then just don't bother showing up here. It isn't going to change and being hopeful for a 'better' movie in 2011 is nonsense, because it's directed by the same person, it will be in the same dimensions!

Put G1 in? How about this. G1's dead. It died a good 20 years ago. Bringing it back into the live film is like redoing Star Wars. This is what it is, a Transformers Universe on it's own. If you think Bay's giving Transformers a bad name, then you clearly have a short sense of time and memory. Transformers has existed for over 25 years, we've had good series, some bad series, yet all in all it brings fans, new and old, together to celebrate something that they enjoy.

Bay doesn't acknowledge Transformers lore? What? There's rules now? Like honestly, when the hell did that happen? If there were to be any rules in Transformers, Bay has acknowledged them all. Transformers transform. They interact with humans. They come from Cybertron. There are Autobots and Decepticons and they fight each other. Bay's representation of Transformers is as genuine as Animated's representation of the characters or Energon's representation of the characters. It is what it is, T-R-A-N-S-F-O-R-M-E-R-S.

Hate isn't going to get anywhere here. Michael Bay is still making Transformers 3, he'll make hundreds of millons, and Transformers will continue on in series after series. The best that can be done for you haters is not seeing the movie, and leaving news like this for people who enjoy Bay's work.

I for one, look forward to Transformers 3. Every bit of the universe that revolves around the Live Movies is an exciting change compared to the 2D characters we've seen for the past decades.

So, what your saying is that you're free to voice your opinion for the film franchise as long as it's blind, uncondition love for it. While everyone else with even the smallest shred of disappointment in the series needs to STFU and GTFO.

You sir are the supreme voice of fairness, aren't you?

Yeah, basically.

i hope this movie has the same pace as the first movie but when the scenes get crazy i want them to max out on the cgi on those scenes and be like wow thats sick,i want this movie to top the forest fight

SoundWave88 wrote:i hope this movie has the same pace as the first movie but when the scenes get crazy i want them to max out on the cgi on those scenes and be like wow thats sick,i want this movie to top the forest fight

nooooo..... Not the same pace as the first film. Egads that's a snore fest.

A mix between TF 1, and ROTF (which was a bit too fast in many a scene) would be perfect, in terms of pacing.

Fortunately, the jumpcuts that ruined the first film weren't present in the second, and I hope they remain out of the picture for the 3rd one. Blargh.

I thought Bay wanted a rest before starting TF 3 hence the 2012 release, he must be a glutton for pushing himself to the limit or something. Oh well as long Welker is back in TF 3 as Soundwave I don't care.

Blurrz wrote:Wow, so many ridiculous bay haters. First of all, Michael Bay doesn't care what anyone thinks, it is all about the money, and he'll do whatever he wants to do. Most of the stuff that happens on the scene is directed by him. The rest; The script, the designs, they're approved by Bay, but they're made by generically everyone else. If you're hating on Bay, you're hating on every Transformer fan that's worked to design the 2007 Movie as well as Revenge of the Fallen.

I'm tired of hearing this disenchanted crap. If all you are doing is complaining, then just don't bother showing up here. It isn't going to change and being hopeful for a 'better' movie in 2011 is nonsense, because it's directed by the same person, it will be in the same dimensions!

Put G1 in? How about this. G1's dead. It died a good 20 years ago. Bringing it back into the live film is like redoing Star Wars. This is what it is, a Transformers Universe on it's own. If you think Bay's giving Transformers a bad name, then you clearly have a short sense of time and memory. Transformers has existed for over 25 years, we've had good series, some bad series, yet all in all it brings fans, new and old, together to celebrate something that they enjoy.

Bay doesn't acknowledge Transformers lore? What? There's rules now? Like honestly, when the hell did that happen? If there were to be any rules in Transformers, Bay has acknowledged them all. Transformers transform. They interact with humans. They come from Cybertron. There are Autobots and Decepticons and they fight each other. Bay's representation of Transformers is as genuine as Animated's representation of the characters or Energon's representation of the characters. It is what it is, T-R-A-N-S-F-O-R-M-E-R-S.

Hate isn't going to get anywhere here. Michael Bay is still making Transformers 3, he'll make hundreds of millons, and Transformers will continue on in series after series. The best that can be done for you haters is not seeing the movie, and leaving news like this for people who enjoy Bay's work.

I for one, look forward to Transformers 3. Every bit of the universe that revolves around the Live Movies is an exciting change compared to the 2D characters we've seen for the past decades.

I am sooo quoting this.
I do agree, it's a different take but it's still Transformers. There are people who say Armada sucked and there are people say that it was one of the best TF series (I really enjoyed it).
Besides, if you "need" g1, get the dvd's?

I for one look forward to TF3 but this also means that I have to NOT visit this and any other transformers website for the coming 1,5 years since THERE ARE TO MANY BLOODY SPOILERS ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME WHICH I TOTALLY HATE!!!
Images on the news page with under it a small line that says "warning spoilers".
This time I don't want to get hyped over a "Totally Awesome Devastator" which in the movie gets slagged by 1 human weapon.

peace