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News Credits: 1 · by **jacksonspade** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:39 pm

Looks like I'll have Trade Bait at Botcon this year...Jazz I keep, Richochet will be traded or ebayed.

by **Uniprimus** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:05 pm

Seibertron wrote:I am still extremely unimpressed with this entire set so far.

As am I, boss.

As am I.

Still the only Botcon set that has really impressed me is the 2006 set, which I am kinda biased about because I am a major Beast Wars fanboy.

The 2005 set seemed really kinda random, and the 2007 set was very nice.

by **Prowl86** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:07 pm

Eradicator wrote:How **** underwhelming.

What an obscure, random TF to choose from.

Ya know, this year's BotCon exclusives really suck. Suck hard.

Then sell me your Grimlock.

I'll pay top dolla'.

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:07 pm

jacksonspade wrote:Looks like I'll have Trade Bait at Botcon this year...Jazz I keep, Richochet will be traded or ebayed.

I'm not going to Botcon, but have ordered (and will be getting) the Iacon set.

I don't like this free figure. The only way I'd get it is if I liked how the character is used in the Timelines story and it is on eBay for cheap (under $30).

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:15 pm

It's "Made In Canada" Jazz! I like it.

Nekoman wrote:It doesn’t look like Ricochet.

He was black wasn't he? Oh well, what else are you gonna call a Jazz repaint?

I was actually hoping for the rumored Black Rodimus. Maybe he'll be one of the add-ons. And I agree, this set needs more 'Cons. Megatron will probably be an add-on. I hope all the add-ons are Decepticons. Even if that means Black Rodimus is a 'Con.

by **Eldorodimus** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:18 pm

wow... that's pretty poopy. with that said, i'm speechless.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:24 pm

Delicon wrote:It's amazing how well this set sold with so many people bashing it.

I could nitpick a few things (and have already) but I think it will make a nice addition to my collection.

I'm curious how many of the "haters" end up buying/trade for some of these figs down the line,

Perhaps because this set sold from orders made before most people saw most of the figures?

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:25 pm

He looks too plain, they could have at least painted his grill black...

At least he's free!

News Credits: 3 · by **Autobot Jazz** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:35 pm

I actually like the figure, I just think they could have done a better color scheme, maybe Black and Gold like his G1 Counterpart(and giving him Nightstick a targetmaster partner would have been awesome)

by **Jaw Crusher** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:41 pm

Delicon wrote:I'm curious how many of the "haters" end up buying/trade for some of these figs down the line,

Well, I can say I won't be one of those people. I just am not excited AT ALL by this year's simply by just the CONCEPT of it - "Oooh, let's make evil versions of the five most recognizable Autobots!!!"... :roll:

I guess it should have been expected, though, after finally getting Alpha Trion, the rest of the Decepticon jets and 'Classics'verse Springer and Huffer last year...y'know, characters who haven't had a decent toy in quite some time, if at all. Even the '05 set beats this out, and it was the weakest one of the past three years, IMO.

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:43 pm

If anyone hates the Ricochet figure that much, hit me up at Botcon because I am trading a few Botcon exclusives to a dealer who would gladly snatch those up.

I know what you guys are saying, I can find fault in this set too but it could have been much much much worse.

I would have crapped my pants if they had made a Beast Machines set for example. But hey, next year IS the 10th anniversary of that I believe...

News Credits: 337 · by **Air Commander Starscream** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:44 pm

I'm not going to come out and fully bash this figure. I will say that I wish it had a bit more detail, or more ricochet colors. It seems a little sloppy or rushed, like they couldn't come up with something. Still It will have a spot in my exclusive shelves.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:50 pm

I don't really understand this figure/choice...

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:12 am

Counterpunch wrote:I don't really understand this figure/choice...

I especially have a problem with calling it Ricochet. Since when was Ricochet red? Black would have been much better and fit into the theme too. The colors are more like Zoom-Zoom than Ricochet.

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:21 am

Hey, I just had a thought. Maybe they didn't color him like his G1 version(black with flames on hood and sides) because it would be too close to Black Rodimus'. :-?

News Credits: 2 · by **Skalor** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:59 am

Scaleface wrote:I just wish they bothered to make a single G1/Classic Jazz repaint of this head remold. Neither is a good "classic". Shattered Glass is not interesting to me, I really am only collecting things for their "classic" value. Neither paint job is classic enough, and sadly, we will probably never see a classic Jazz now with these guys and the Animated Jazz being out.

Hopefully you picked up the G1 Jazz Target Exclusive. That's about as good as it's most likely going to get. Plus, he really looks good next to the rest of the other Classics figures. As for this Ricochet fig, I think the Cyb Smokescreen repaint is where this mold should have started and ended.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:25 am

Why didn't they make another Decepticon? That set is gonna be so unbalanced in terms of factions. Don't me wrong...I think the piece is awesome. But there are only two good guys!!!!!!

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:40 am

At least it's not an Evil Albino Prime...

by **Defcon!** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:48 am

Another one! what the f--k! I wish it was different but it's free so oh well. They could of done alot better.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:02 am

Defcon! wrote:Another one! what the f--k! I wish it was different but it's free so oh well. They could of done alot better.

As has been mentioned, 'free' is a relative term. You have to buy something very expensive to get the 'free' item.

I prefer last year's Mirage. I also would like to see Ricochet in black and gold to at least make an attempt to look like Stepper, whom Ricochet was created from. And a minicon pal, one of the triplechanger/targetmasters would have made it awesome!

Now it is just 'Meh...'

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:43 am

That Jazz repaint is hideous. Not a big fan...

by **Bonger** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:02 am

Yeah, I think this years set is a big pass for me. I like the SD Con Nemeseis Prime a lot more, and the rest of the set really isn't exciting me much.

Ofcourse, if we do not end up with a Jazz in Classics, I will be pissed I didn't grab the one in this set, but, for now, my rating is 3 Mehs.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:21 am

Right now Movie G1 Jazz redeco from Target is my Classic Jazz. I wonder if Hasbro can still redeco the Cybertron Crosswise mold into G1 Jazz for the Universe line? It's not the exact same color or head as the Botcon toy, so it wouldn't be infringing on thier "exclusive".

News Credits: 104 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:17 am

Repaint Ricochet IMHO looks like ass. Same crappy mold..

But more power to those that like it.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:24 am

Cyber Bishop wrote:Repaint Ricochet IMHO looks like ass. Same crappy mold..

But more power to those that like it.

And probably more will be available to them on Ebay too! Prices may actually be reasonable for this one. I really liked the Mirage from last year much better! :!: