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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:16 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.


You may want to hold off on that idea. Hybrid Style G1 Convoy is roughly Legends-sized, not Deluxe, so the trailer may be way too small.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:22 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.


You may want to hold off on that idea. Hybrid Style G1 Convoy is roughly Legends-sized, not Deluxe, so the trailer may be way too small.


Oh, true. In that case, this little guy will fit perfectly:

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Er.... those feet will need some serious modding.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby ExciKaiser » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:12 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, how many G1 Optimus do we need? They should have went with Cybertron Hybrid Convoy instead. It's much better looking in all modes and way more interesting.

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It's also much bigger.

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Maybe I would pay the 160$ for it. Because on Ebay, Hybrid Galaxy Convoy is 250$ plus shipping at the minimum.



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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:25 pm

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>3800JPY for Hybrid Style Galaxy Convoy

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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Emerje » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:55 pm

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In fairness a lot of people in North America passed on HS Galaxy Convoy back then because he was basically the same price as the full size Cybertron Optimus Prime. If we only knew then what we know now.

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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby ExciKaiser » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:00 pm

Emerje wrote:In fairness a lot of people in North America passed on HS Galaxy Convoy back then because he was basically the same price as the full size Cybertron Optimus Prime. If we only knew then what we know now.

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That's also what I've been told on the French forums back in time. I was stupid to get this one on the same price as the regular one, I was supporting Takara into doing stupid overpriced non-g1 products and such.. (yes fr forums are 99% geewun).

Should I said that I also got most of the robomasters at their release, when they where all 15$ ? :-D
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:46 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:The trailer is marvelous however. I'd like to get one and mod it so it can fit with one of my deluxe Optimus.


You may want to hold off on that idea. Hybrid Style G1 Convoy is roughly Legends-sized, not Deluxe, so the trailer may be way too small.


Oh, true. In that case, this little guy will fit perfectly:

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Er.... those feet will need some serious modding.
Eh, the Hybrid Style mold is more like a Scout class of the Cybertron days than the Legends class of today, so it is smaller than a Deluxe but not quite as small as that Legends class OP.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:50 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!

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I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:33 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!

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I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?


Not really. Hybrid is so bad, that even the MP-01 and Classic deluxe, ones that have infamous bad truck mode, are ashamed of it. Hybrid flaunt his diecast with pride because he's so "premium", all while ignoring the others who are red with shame.

As a comparison for newcomers:

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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:47 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!

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I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?


Not really. Hybrid is so bad, that even the MP-01 and Classic deluxe, ones that have infamous bad truck mode, are ashamed of it. Hybrid flaunt his diecast with pride because he's so "premium", all while ignoring the others who are red with shame.

As a comparison for newcomers:

Classic deluxe:
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That's a custom by Jarrod.

Real one is kind of a mess --

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It's time for a proper Deluxe-class cartoon-accurate Optimus Prime.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:23 am

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Cyberpath wrote:It's time for a proper Deluxe-class cartoon-accurate Optimus Prime.


For now, the G1 original is still the best of the best "classic style" "deluxe" Optimus Prime.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:45 am

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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:52 am

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I didn't even know RM Optimus existed. What's his size? Would it be in scale with the Hybrid trailer?

Also, both truck and bot modes are not perfect, but they are certainly decent enough. But not enough for me to pay the 70$+ the aftermarket ask for.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:56 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I didn't even know RM Optimus existed. What's his size?
A small Deluxe.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, both truck and bot modes are not perfect, but they are certainly decent enough. But not enough for me to pay the 70$+ the aftermarket ask for.
Try the version sold in the toyline called Legend Commander Collection.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:48 am

Sabrblade wrote:Guess no one cares for ill or for good about the RobotMasters mold.

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I actually rather like this figure (I have the "LC-01" reissue) -- unfortunately, it's smaller than a Deluxe so it's out of place with my Takara Legends. But really, time for a Deluxe Prime that can absorb all his wheels in robot-mode; a perfect face/head sculpt; retractable thighs, etc.
MP-10 is so popular and gets reissued all the time, why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:47 am

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Hybrid Style Galaxy Convoy is a $90-$100 toy. Don't pay more than that. I'm not saying you can go on eBay whenever and pay that, mind you, but if you exercise some patience that's an appropriate range :)
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:12 am

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Cyberpath wrote:why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?
It's probably because Deluxe class is traditionally meant for the average-sized bots while Optimus Prime is traditionally supposed to be bigger-than-average-sized. He's a truck among cars, a leader among followers, the guy most of his troops look up to both figuratively and literally. Voyager class (or, in the past, Mega class, and its equivalents) is generally regarded as the minimum appropriate size class for Optimus since he's usually not supposed to be on the same height level as the majority of his teammates.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby ScottyP » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:26 am

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Cyberpath wrote:why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?
It's probably because Deluxe class is traditionally meant for the average-sized bots while Optimus Prime is traditionally supposed to be bigger-than-average-sized. He's a truck among cars, a leader among followers, the guy most of his troops look up to both figuratively and literally. Voyager class (or, in the past, Mega class, and its equivalents) is generally regarded as the minimum appropriate size class for Optimus since he's usually not supposed to be on the same height level as the majority of his teammates.
There's this, for one. For another, Optimus Prime toys sell, so they're going to look at higher price/margin size classes to mitigate risks carried by some of the other choices in the size class (example: Leader Blaster)
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:38 am

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Cyberpath wrote:why won't HasTak would make a Deluxe one, too?
It's probably because Deluxe class is traditionally meant for the average-sized bots while Optimus Prime is traditionally supposed to be bigger-than-average-sized. He's a truck among cars, a leader among followers, the guy most of his troops look up to both figuratively and literally. Voyager class (or, in the past, Mega class, and its equivalents) is generally regarded as the minimum appropriate size class for Optimus since he's usually not supposed to be on the same height level as the majority of his teammates.


They release him in every size-class though, so it's probably not that. Although I want a Deluxe I'm talking more about the design. Why haven't they made a proper CHUG figure of his iconic incarnation instead (or in addition to) all the gimmicky toys of him -- combiner, headmaster, triple-changer, powermaster, etc. For sure they know how to hide wheels now (and if the LG Headmasters are anything to go by) make perfect head-sculpts that look like 3D screen-grabs from the cartoon.
I'd be okay with Legend class, too. (Leader-class would be redundant with MP-10 around.)
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Overcracker » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:44 am

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And yet, there's many deluxe sized Optimus Prime's that are just as good and sometimes even better than voyagers or Leaders.

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We just have not gotten a good G1 styled Optimus Prime.

The Legends Class IDW Prime did get a gorgeous repaint from Takara. Now if it were only upscaled to Deluxe size....

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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:53 am

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Cyberpath wrote:They release him in every size-class though,
They didn't always and even some recent lines that do still haven't covered every size class for him.

Cyberpath wrote:Although I want a Deluxe I'm talking more about the design. Why haven't they made a proper CHUG figure of his iconic incarnation instead (or in addition to) all the gimmicky toys of him -- combiner, headmaster, triple-changer, powermaster, etc.
They probably feel that they've already covered that ground with existing Deluxes that drew from his original look (like the Classics "Ultimate Battle" one, even if that one's lame), and want to do other things with him to keep up with the ever-changing nature of the brand that necessitates creating new and fresh ideas for old characters.

And, again, doing the old design at the Deluxe scale always ends up making him puny among his compatriots. Legends and Legions are like a separate scale on their own when it comes to making toys for big characters at those sizes since no one expects a Legion or Legends class Optimus to be hanging out with, say, a Deluxe Prowl or a Voyager Megatron. But a Deluxe Optimus doesn't really fit that with anything other than other Deluxe toys of similarly big characters, of which there are so few already since big characters tend to warrant big toys (and when they end up only getting small [non-Legends/non-Legion] toys instead, the fans usually complain).
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:58 am

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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:13 am

Sabrblade wrote:And, again, doing the old design at the Deluxe scale always ends up making him puny among his compatriots.


Depends how lenient you are with scale in CHUG. Since I have Masterpiece for the "perfect" scale, my CHUG is less "strict." For me, Deluxe is fine for anyone from Ironhide to Prime. Legends for the Bumblebee, Brawn, Insecticons type of characters. Voyager for Dinobots. Leaders for giants like Skyfire. And anything bigger for people like Devastator.
(btw, four of the Dinobots are Deluxe class and they're supposed to tower almost everyone.)
Anyway, doesn't really matter anymore since Hasbro calls the shots now with regards to decos, and they've gone back to stickers and grey fists.
I might print a non-transforming figure in the scale that I want. Or upgrade the existing one a lil bit.
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

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-Kanrabat- wrote:All that diecast and over-engineering for such a GARBAGE result. The bot barely look decent and the truck put MP-01 and even Classic deluxe Optimus to shame. If I pay that kind of money, give me a toy that is worth transforming goddammit!


I think you mean to say that the truck modes of MP-01 and 2006 Deluxe Classics Optimus Prime put Hybrid Style Convoy to shame, ne?


Not really. Hybrid is so bad, that even the MP-01 and Classic deluxe, ones that have infamous bad truck mode, are ashamed of it. Hybrid flaunt his diecast with pride because he's so "premium", all while ignoring the others who are red with shame.


Kanrabat, is English your second language? I ask because you seem to be Quebequois? I'm just trying to be helpful, but the way you worded it before, for English speakers, would tell us that you think the parties A putting party B to shame do so because they are superior, not that the inferiority of party B makes parties A feel shame, even if that is empathetic embarrassment. :)
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Re: Platinum Edition Year of the Rooster Optimus Prime Revealed

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:21 am

Agamemnon wrote:I still prefer his original Classics incarnation. Sure, it's not the exact same cab-over design and has issues with the forearms. But, I like him just fine! Still the best, IMHO...

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Yes, still my favourite classics Prime. And the one I always use for any scene or scale. I have no use for a deluxe prime, and I have no use for a leader prime as well, not when we have the MP around.

Also, we did have a recent deluxe Optimus with the RID one (which of course was not CHUG design, I get that)
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