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The Master Blaster wrote:


And for the price, shouldn't they do all four of the season 1 cassettes?

I say they should do at least 3 of the molds....Ravege,Rumble and Lazerbeek........When they do the Soundblaster repaint they should repaint 2 of the cassettes as Buzzsaw and Frenze and give us a new mold of ether ratbat or a remold of that drone cassett we saw in season 1.

Honestly, I can't see how the next MP won't be an Autobot. Decepticons currently outumber the Autobots 2 to 1 in molds; 3 to 2 in figures (soon to to be 4 to 2 after the inevitable Thundercraker MP). As popular as Soundwave is, I don't see him being the next MP.

I would love to see Grimlock, though if he's as unpopular in Japan as people say, it probably won't happen. Honestly, I think it will be an Autobot with repaint value. Ratchet/Ironhide are popular characters, and their G1 toys were simply the worst of all the G1 toys, so they seem like the most logical next choice. Following that, the next most logical choice would be Bumblebee/Cliffjumper.

From what I hear about his popularity in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if Rodimus gets made before Grimlock. And I would be ECSTATIC if they made a Rodimus MP. I always liked his look, and unlike a lot of folks, I cut him some slack for not being as good as Optimus. Who could possibly fill those shoes? Rodimus was one of the more complex characters in the series, always measuring himself up to the impossibly high standard of his hero, Optmius.

And if a Rodimus MP gets made... then that would mean that a Galvatron MP is inevitable. And when THAT happens, I will be able to die happy.

I hear what Ya'll are saying, and I agree with some of the points made, but the fact that Takara Tomy wouldn't create a Masterpiece Rodimus Prime is silly, when you think of the fact that he's also a Leader and a marker for a new era coined by the movie... with Galvatron as the other...Marker..

Honestly Galvatron is a bigger Character and has a larger following in Japan then the regular Megatron...


I'm quite sure Rodimus was well liked in Japan.. He's a young novice leader who makes mistakes and still has to prove himself to his troops, but in all fairness, regardless of it just being the matrix power, he did defeat Unicron, something Optimus had never done, Optimus was defeated by Megatron... so I believe that Galvatron and Rodimus Prime would be viable and marketable products for the Japanese market, whom the Masterpiece line up is geared towards anyways..

The fact that they Modeled the personality and situation of Big Convoy after Rodimus Prime in Beast Wars Neo and the fact that Big Convoy uses a Matrix Buster, to defeat Galvatron and Unicron's energy is similar to the Rodimus Movie setup... so for the Japanese, I think Rodimus Prime is a cool character and would definitely be a bigger seller then the Grimlock and Skyfire choices.. but that's based on their love.. No amount of Fanboy wishing is gonna bring this closer, and arguing that point of view is just trying to convince yourself it's a possability..

maybe it will be maybe it won't but I certainly don't see Soundwave, or Blaster, skyfire or Grimlock making a Masterpiece Debut anytime soon...atleast not before Rodimus and Galvatron arrive...

Must... not... flame... Rodney fanbois...

Sledge wrote:Must... not... flame... Rodney fanbois...

Yes I'm well aware of your hatred of Rodimus Prime...

Hence my earlier post on page 3 of this thread:

Sledge wrote:Sorry, but I've just spoken to my source* and been told MP07 will definitely be Rodimus Prime. He won't have a Matrix or rifle, but he will have a soundchip that says some of your favorite Rodimus quotes. Lines such as "We're gonna get killed," "Ggggghh! *choking sounds*," "I'm not the leader you were" and "Goddamn, I suck so much ass**" mean you can recreate all Rodney's greatest moments.




* source: my ass
** line cut from The Return Of Optimus Prime Part 1. Rodimus was to speak this on realising his impetuousness had this time doomed an entire galaxy. Line was cut following the "Oh ****" controversy in TF:TM.

In that case then, My first request is...


.......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............



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....... Rodimus Prime!!!
(yeah so he's not as good as the original Prime, yet he's the one walking and talking and Optimus is dead and being eaten by Metal Maggots!!)

Boooo Yah!!! Overly Obsessed Prime Fanboys!!!


Proof of Obsession:

Sledge wrote:When I was eight years old, my uncle gave me the Ladybird novelisation of the Movie. I learned that Optimus Prime died. I cried myself to sleep that night.

A couple of weeks later, I saw the Movie, and found that Optimus Prime died because of Hot Rod. Hot Rod then became a Winnebago and a whiney emo bastard.

Hatred is too small a word for how I feel about Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime.

Whose the whiney one now???

Now Don't go soiling your Optimus prime decorated Undies..


I think Rodimus gets a Bad wrap sometimes.. He really is a cool character, and so what if he replaced optimus on the show, I think there was some good direction that the Transformers universe was going.. the only problem was that at that time, they changed the leadership when The series was still at it's height.. had they waited till the interest started to fall off and then changed, IMO the initial shock and reaction would have been lessened..

Oh, and sledge, I'm just messin wit ya man!!! But if you do need an extra pair of Prime decorated Undies, I have some for ya... and plenty of tissues if you want to cry again about Optimus prime's death...

Rodney isn't complex, he's whiney. Thinking he was "deep" is the same mentality that's kept Simon Furman employed for the last ten years. But let's be fair: how did YOU react to Prime's death in 1986?

You know, thinking about it, I really don't know where HasTak will go with the next MP. Prime, Megs and Screamer were the most obvious choices. It's difficult to think of any character outside those who's got the sort of broad appeal they have. Any Season 3 character instantly divides the fanbase. Soundwave? Grimlock? Solid characters, but no real repaint potential. Unless there ARE people who'd buy "Grimlock with different head" as Trypticon, or "Soundwave with different colours and new head" as Blaster? Problem with most of the Autobot cars would be getting the licenses for the Alt modes, and we know companies like Lamborghini and Porsche aren't keen. Maybe a Datsun mold for Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen?

Started as a rumor and hope it's stay as a rumor. MP-07 should be Devastator and this should blow away the hype of Soundwave.

Sledge wrote:Rodney isn't complex, he's whiney. Thinking he was "deep" is the same mentality that's kept Simon Furman employed for the last ten years. But let's be fair: how did YOU react to Prime's death in 1986?

You know, thinking about it, I really don't know where HasTak will go with the next MP. Prime, Megs and Screamer were the most obvious choices. It's difficult to think of any character outside those who's got the sort of broad appeal they have. Any Season 3 character instantly divides the fanbase. Soundwave? Grimlock? Solid characters, but no real repaint potential. Unless there ARE people who'd buy "Grimlock with different head" as Trypticon, or "Soundwave with different colours and new head" as Blaster? Problem with most of the Autobot cars would be getting the licenses for the Alt modes, and we know companies like Lamborghini and Porsche aren't keen. Maybe a Datsun mold for Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen?

not sure what kind of problems licensing would cause..but I can say one thing.. the divided fanbase your speaking of....Blaster would have to be a new mold, Soundblaster would be a repaint of soundwave.. but as far as the fanbase divide and season 3 would be concerned.. Takara Tomy's Fanbase is in Japan and not here.. so our rules and likes or dislikes really don't matter..and that's the whole point as to why MP Grimlock and others would be later if ever made.. because the fandom in Japan is different from ours here in the US or anywhere else for that matter...

But it does matter if they expect to get funding from Hasbro.

skywarp-2 wrote:No amount of Fanboy wishing is gonna bring this closer, and arguing that point of view is just trying to convince yourself it's a possability..

maybe it will be maybe it won't but I certainly don't see Soundwave, or Blaster, skyfire or Grimlock making a Masterpiece Debut anytime soon...atleast not before Rodimus and Galvatron arrive...

Well, even if that's what you say you're also arguing over a possibility. You don't have any more idea who will be the next MP mold any more than I do, you're just guessing like everyone else is. Takara might blow us all away with a character we don't see coming like Deathsaurus or another Unicron. It's like arguing over who'se likely for the commemorative series or who was going to be the next Alt. Sometimes you get a Wheeljack and sometimes you get an Decepticharge. But your guess of Rodimus is no less a guess than mine of Grimlock or Jetfire.

When I was 8 years old, Optimus Prime was bigger than Superman. He embodied true heroism and courage. What older generations, when they were children, must have thought about John Wayne, I imagine. I think of those scenes in Preacher where Jesse is guided by John Wayne. He draws from him the wisdom to know what is the right thing to do, and the strength to do the right thing. His inner child still draws this idealized, larger than life image of John Wayne, even though he is well into his adult years. For myself, along with a lot of others who were children in the mid 80's, Optimus Prime occupies a similar status in our minds. That is how I feel about Optimus Prime. I saw the 1986 movie in the theaters when it first came out and I sobbed when Prime died.

And I am telling you that I am also a fan of Rodimus Prime. He's not as great as Optimus - so what? Who is? Rodimus was interesting. If you look at how he handled himself in the third season, he was a very solid battle tactician. He just didn't have Optimus' charisma or confidence. The sound of his voice didn't reassure you the way that Prime's did. He was constantly measuring himself against his role model Optimus, and he always came up short, even in his own mind. When he was Hot Rod, he dreamed of bigger and better things. He was ambitious and believed he was destined for great things. But when he achieved the highest status an Autobot could achieve, he became nostalgic for the good old days, when life was simpler and easier. Gone was the naive, reckless youngster. He reluctantly accepted the pressure and responsibility that came with his new job.

And he's cool looking. His alt form was cool even if it was a pseudo-futuristic Winne. The kibble on his robot form, the yellow spoiler, was exactly what you want from the kibble: it added some pizzazz without being overly obstrusive or a major waste of mass.

I am a fan of Rodimus Prime.

Metal Ed wrote:But when he achieved the highest status an Autobot could achieve, he became nostalgic for the good old days, when life was simpler and easier. Gone was the naive, reckless youngster. He reluctantly accepted the pressure and responsibility that came with his new job.

Well ... unless he removed the Matrix for even a second. Then he went right back to being Hot Rod. And he even stayed that way when Prime came back.

Hot Rod won me as a kid, but Roddy ... my most prominant memory of Roddy is his saying how he wasn't good enough in Return of Optimus Prime, the only TF episodes I had for a very long time. And, I guess, that's how he's stuck to me.

Which isn't to say I wouldn't mind a MP Roddy ... I like how they're redoing him a bit, adding a bit more to his design ... but I wish he'd get a better interpretation, you know? Because SO MUCH of the toys is based around the foction surrounding them.

To me, he was killed by editorial misconduct.

Huh. I don't know how I missed this thread.....could be that I just check the news these days.....but in any case....it would be very nice if Soundwave was the next MP, but I have my doubts. If he was, we'd get a Soundblaster re-paint right afterward, like we'll get the inevitable Thundercracker re-paint out of Starscream. We are long overdue for an Autobot. Either Grimlock or Rodimus Prime. Or a Perfect Ultra Magnus (again, highly doubtful). I don't think now is the time for another Decepticon. I would kill for the real MP Soundwave, but I'd also kill for a MP Grimlock w/energo-sword & missile launcher.

Soundwave? Hell yeah. Sign me up. Soundwave is one of the most iconic characters and is right up there next to Prime, Megs, and Screamer. I could definitely see Soundwave as MP-07 along with one each of Laserbeak/Buzzsaw and Frenzy/Rumble and a future repaint of Soundblaster with Buzzsaw/Laserbeak and Rumble/Frenzy.

I could care less on whether or not he has a complex transformation. Just give me a toon acurate Soundwave and I'd have no problem dropping the $100 on him.

As for there not being enough Autobots in the MP line. Who f'in cares. The line is all about iconic characters and Soundwave fits the bill. And like someone mentioned earlier, we already have a whole bunch of Autobots from the Binaltech/Alternators line. Imagine having MP Megs, Soundwave, and Starscream all lined up next to each other. That would f'in kick ass.

Metal Ed wrote:Honestly, I can't see how the next MP won't be an Autobot. Decepticons currently outumber the Autobots 2 to 1 in molds; 3 to 2 in figures (soon to to be 4 to 2 after the inevitable Thundercraker MP). As popular as Soundwave is, I don't see him being the next MP.

I would love to see Grimlock, though if he's as unpopular in Japan as people say, it probably won't happen. Honestly, I think it will be an Autobot with repaint value. Ratchet/Ironhide are popular characters, and their G1 toys were simply the worst of all the G1 toys, so they seem like the most logical next choice. Following that, the next most logical choice would be Bumblebee/Cliffjumper.

From what I hear about his popularity in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised if Rodimus gets made before Grimlock. And I would be ECSTATIC if they made a Rodimus MP. I always liked his look, and unlike a lot of folks, I cut him some slack for not being as good as Optimus. Who could possibly fill those shoes? Rodimus was one of the more complex characters in the series, always measuring himself up to the impossibly high standard of his hero, Optmius.

And if a Rodimus MP gets made... then that would mean that a Galvatron MP is inevitable. And when THAT happens, I will be able to die happy.

Don't believe the Grimlock rumor. It's nonsense. I live in Japan and Grimlock is just as iconoclastic as Hotrod and Galvatron. I have heard many people on Seibertron.com mention that the Dinobots are not popular in Japan, but it's just not true. I don't why people say it; perhaps they hear others on the site say it, which feeds the rumor more. The Dinobot are popular and old figures sell out very quickly in stores.

skywarp-2 wrote:

Sledge wrote:Rodney isn't complex, he's whiney. Thinking he was "deep" is the same mentality that's kept Simon Furman employed for the last ten years. But let's be fair: how did YOU react to Prime's death in 1986?

You know, thinking about it, I really don't know where HasTak will go with the next MP. Prime, Megs and Screamer were the most obvious choices. It's difficult to think of any character outside those who's got the sort of broad appeal they have. Any Season 3 character instantly divides the fanbase. Soundwave? Grimlock? Solid characters, but no real repaint potential. Unless there ARE people who'd buy "Grimlock with different head" as Trypticon, or "Soundwave with different colours and new head" as Blaster? Problem with most of the Autobot cars would be getting the licenses for the Alt modes, and we know companies like Lamborghini and Porsche aren't keen. Maybe a Datsun mold for Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen?

not sure what kind of problems licensing would cause..but I can say one thing.. the divided fanbase your speaking of....Blaster would have to be a new mold, Soundblaster would be a repaint of soundwave.. but as far as the fanbase divide and season 3 would be concerned.. Takara Tomy's Fanbase is in Japan and not here.. so our rules and likes or dislikes really don't matter..and that's the whole point as to why MP Grimlock and others would be later if ever made.. because the fandom in Japan is different from ours here in the US or anywhere else for that matter...

Actually, Takara probably will consider fan opinions outside of Japan if they intend to market the toys internationally. Takara has been branching out recently to foreign markets and online resellers make up a bit of their market. So I'm sure that your opinions count to Takara to some degree.

Sledge wrote:But it does matter if they expect to get funding from Hasbro.

Not necessarily true. MP Megatron was funded and marketed solely by Takara.

I still want Soundwave and Blaster.

Even if one's a repaint and remould of the other.
At MP scale and price, you know the remoulding would be good.

The Master Blaster wrote:I still want Soundwave and Blaster.

Even if one's a repaint and remould of the other.
At MP scale and price, you know the remoulding would be good.

Agreed x10

Sledge wrote:But it does matter if they expect to get funding from Hasbro.

HUH????

Takara Tomy doesn't need funding from Hasbro...

If Hasbro wants to buy the Molds for a Rodimus Prime Masterpiece, I'm sure it will sell here in the states..

The average teen will say, He has flames like Optimus from the movie, and other fans who only remember G-1 and bought 20th Prime will say, yeah I remember that guy he was in that transformers movie back in the day and came after Optimus Prime's death....

then I'm sure our fandom will pick him up as well..

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:No amount of Fanboy wishing is gonna bring this closer, and arguing that point of view is just trying to convince yourself it's a possability..

maybe it will be maybe it won't but I certainly don't see Soundwave, or Blaster, skyfire or Grimlock making a Masterpiece Debut anytime soon...atleast not before Rodimus and Galvatron arrive...

Well, even if that's what you say you're also arguing over a possibility. You don't have any more idea who will be the next MP mold any more than I do, you're just guessing like everyone else is. Takara might blow us all away with a character we don't see coming like Deathsaurus or another Unicron. It's like arguing over who'se likely for the commemorative series or who was going to be the next Alt. Sometimes you get a Wheeljack and sometimes you get an Decepticharge. But your guess of Rodimus is no less a guess than mine of Grimlock or Jetfire.

your absolutely right.. I'm not saying I know for sure it's Rodimus, I'm just arguing why I think Rodimus would be a great choice as the next MP..

so there's a difference from Saying this is what Takara Tomy is gonna release, and this is what I think would be a viable next release..

Lets be honest now. A number of us will buy MP-07 no matter who it is

skywarp-2 wrote:If Hasbro wants to buy the Molds for a Rodimus Prime Masterpiece, I'm sure it will sell here in the states..

Hasbro doesn't 'buy' moulds from TakaraTomy that co-own the brand, if Takara want to put 'Transformers' on it Hasbro automatically has dibs on using it.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:If Hasbro wants to buy the Molds for a Rodimus Prime Masterpiece, I'm sure it will sell here in the states..

Hasbro doesn't 'buy' moulds from TakaraTomy that co-own the brand, if Takara want to put 'Transformers' on it Hasbro automatically has dibs on using it.

Yours AK

Are you sure about that, i always see others on this board stating that Hasbro has to purchase this or that particular mold from Hasbro...??

skywarp-2 wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:If Hasbro wants to buy the Molds for a Rodimus Prime Masterpiece, I'm sure it will sell here in the states..

Hasbro doesn't 'buy' moulds from TakaraTomy that co-own the brand, if Takara want to put 'Transformers' on it Hasbro automatically has dibs on using it.

Yours AK

Are you sure about that, i always see others on this board stating that Hasbro has to purchase this or that particular mold from Hasbro...??

I believe they do have to buy the mold, unless an agreement was made before the mold was made.

Cyber-Kun wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:If Hasbro wants to buy the Molds for a Rodimus Prime Masterpiece, I'm sure it will sell here in the states..

Hasbro doesn't 'buy' moulds from TakaraTomy that co-own the brand, if Takara want to put 'Transformers' on it Hasbro automatically has dibs on using it.

Yours AK

Are you sure about that, i always see others on this board stating that Hasbro has to purchase this or that particular mold from Hasbro...??

I believe they do have to buy the mold, unless an agreement was made before the mold was made.

From what I know your right.Hasbro as co-owners of the brand has the rights to request any mold they want but they have to pay for the molds to produce the figures for them selfs.They also have to pay for any extras that have to be made for the toy to meet U.S. safty laws.